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==What the benefit of adopting a user== |
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What the benefit of adopting a user & getting adopted, i have never heard of this feature before on wikipedia. And how does it work? I am assuming it keeps you away from trouble or getting blocked?--[[User:Misconceptions2|Misconceptions2]] ([[User talk:Misconceptions2|talk]]) 22:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC) |
What the benefit of adopting a user & getting adopted, i have never heard of this feature before on wikipedia. And how does it work? I am assuming it keeps you away from trouble or getting blocked?--[[User:Misconceptions2|Misconceptions2]] ([[User talk:Misconceptions2|talk]]) 22:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:Most people's aim on Wikipedia is to be the best editor they can be. What [[User:Worm That Turned]] has said about his adoption process is that it gives you a good grounding in all the basic areas you need knowledge of to be able to become a great editor. (It's not a preparation for being an administrator, which a few people mistakenly see it as.) Of course, all adoptees handle adoption differently to one extent or another, and also most adopters will adapt their adoption process according to the needs of the adoptee. So adoption can help address issues like over-focusing on one topic or getting angry or whatever. |
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:Now of course, assuming the adoption process achieves some of these aims, yes it can help prevent you getting blocked. On the other hand, if there are problems that can't be dealt with (or can't be dealt with quickly enough), then it won't always prevent you getting blocked. It's not an anti-block shield. In fact, some adopters do end up having to block their own adoptees, either permanently or temporarily. |
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:You also asked about the benefits of adopting. The benefits there are very much like the benefits of helping new editors in less formal processes. We all know that there are lots of Wikipedia requirements and approaches and policies that are (almost) second nature once you know them, but absolutely arcane and frustrating when encountering them explained badly (or not explained at all) when first starting out editing. Being able to (hopefully) make that process so much easier for someone who is enthusiastic about contributing but frustrated by the obstacles, is immensely rewarding. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 20:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC) |
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==New Page Triage newsletter== |
==New Page Triage newsletter== |
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Adoption (1)
Hi my name is slimhady (my real name is Dalton). I am looking currently for a mentor because I need help in wikipedia I am not that old I am only 13 But I am very smart and have a hole library wall in my room.
--Slimshady (talk) 22:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Constantia Oomen
Hi, would you mind giving Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constantia Oomen a second look to see if the references now provided changes things for you? Cheers / Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 13:04, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for your help!
HTcreager (talk) 18:17, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!
I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.
It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:22, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Religious language
Hello! Your submission of Religious language at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lihaas (talk) 13:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Philosophy of Religion sidebar
On Logical positivism is very cheeky. I'm not disagreeing… but all that formaldehyde can make 'em a bit ornery. Best to have a Tesla coil, flappers and cocaine standing by.—Machine Elf 1735 21:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Re: Adoption request
I have no problem with you making Mistakes, because Everybody makes mistakes. I for one have made a ton of mistakes in my lifetime. Anyway I Would happily be your apprentice if you approve of me being only thirteen years old. I may be young but am very very smart and would like to contribute o wikipedia the best I can.
Also i understand if things will take long, but please note i have no accesible email at home but i get back from school around 4:00 and i am on the computer almost every day i will be on wikipedia a lot.
--Slimshady (talk) 22:04, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's wonderful; I am more than happy to take you on. I have no problem with your age - provided you are mature (which it seems you are), you are more than welcome at Wikipedia. On that note, I do suggest that you read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors if you have not already.
- If you ever have any questions or problems - be that with content, technical issues, other editors or anything else, please come and ask me. I will try to regularly contact you and see how you're doing. I would also be willing to provide a short course on Wikipedia's policies and practices, which you can complete at the same time. I'd also like to ask you a few questions myself, just so I can get to know you a little.
- What interests do you have outside of Wikipedia that you have knowledge about?
- What other experience have you had online?
- How involved would you like to be in community discussions?
- That's all for now. As I said, I'm delighted that I'll be able to mentor you. I wish you the best of luck for your time here. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Religious language
On 6 March 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Religious language, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that logical positivist A. J. Ayer believed that religious language was meaningless because it could not be verified empirically? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Religious language.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Question
Okay remember that Image Uploading article you sent me? Well it told me that I can't use it... I've tryed a bunch of different things, but how excatly do I get my article public? I can't seem to figure this out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HTcreager (talk • contribs) 19:43, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
2012 WikiGrail
Hi there! I was admiring your great work on Christianity-related articles, which made me think you should sign up for the 2012 WikiGrail. It is a friendly competition for Christianity-related project members that awards points for good articles, featured content, and other markers of editing skill. You simply just have to list your name here. Hope to see you there! Warm regards, – Lionel (talk) 09:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Falklands War
Hi Its Zippy,
With the medcab on the Falklands War now closed, I wondered if you had any ideas for how best to tackle an unresolved situation such as this one? Is there any other forum you would use, or do you have any other thoughts on the next best step?
Cheers, Ranger Steve Talk 13:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Steve, thanks for your message. I think the difficulty with this case is that people are now getting tired of it. I think that, if you want to resolve it, you'll need to get all parties on board, willing to talk through the issues. It might be worth continuing the discussion on the talk page, once you have all parties willing to co-operate. I know that some of the problems have been with people moving off topic and commenting on the behaviour of other people, rather than the issue; it might, therefore, be worth asking an uninvolved admin to watch over the discussion to deal with any such issues. I really hope that this can be resolved, and I'm sorry that mediation did not work out. Best of luck with it. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:26, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Works for me, I am willing to discuss the matter collegially as I always have been. Wee Curry Monster talk 21:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Page Triage newsletter
Hey guys!
Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).
In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
The Tea Leaf - Issue One - Recent news from the Teahouse
Hi! Welcome to the first edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!
- Metrics are out from week one. Week one showed that the need for Teahouse hosts to invite new editors to the Teahouse is urgent for this pilot period. It also showed that emailing new users invitations is a powerful tool, with new editors responding more to emails than to talk page templates. We also learned that the customized database reports created for the Teahouse have the highest return rate of participation by invitees. Check out the metrics here and see how you can help with inviting in our Invitation Guide.
- A refreshed "Your hosts" page encourages experienced Wikipedians to learn about the Teahouse and participate. With community input, the Teahouse has updated the Your hosts page which details the host roles within the Teahouse pilot and the importance that hosts play in providing a friendly, special experience not always found on other welcome/help spaces on Wikipedia. It also explains how Teahouse hosts are important regarding metrics reporting during this pilot. Are you an experienced editor who wants to help out? Take a look at the new page today and start learning about the hosts tasks and how you can participate!
- Introduce yourself and meet new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. New & experienced editors to Wikipedia can add a brief infobox about themselves and get to know one another with direct links to userpages. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, they'll surely be happy to feel the wikilove!
You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
TFA
Hey, hope things are going well, I just wanted to mention to you that you should feel free to nominate Prosperity theology at WP:TFAR anytime you want. I'm not opposed to it being TFA, but it's not something I'm particularly gripped by so I probably won't nominate it myself. Not sure how you feel about TFA, it's up to you though. Oh, and I've been meaning to review your Augustinian article, got caught up in a million other things--will try to do that soon though. Mark Arsten (talk) 05:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I hadn't thought of that. Like you, I'm not too fussed about it, but I don't mind either way. And thank you - I would appreciate that. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 16:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've heard enough horror stories about TFAs getting attention from POV pushers and so, not sure if that is always the case though. BTW, I posted a review of Augustine's theodicy, basically just minor qualms. Also, feel free to revert my copyedits. (Hopefully not all of them though!) Mark Arsten (talk) 18:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Userpage and some questions ( response)
Hello Its zippy,
I did not miss your last message but I may not have answered your questions. Anyway thank you, I did not no wether I should put my school in or not my dad said it would be bad. (shouldve listened to him.) Anyway to answer your questions: Ouside of wikipedia i have great intrests in: Video games, The lord of the rings, Eminem and his albums That's pretty much it. Other experiances online i have had are, Yahoo answers, ROblox, Minecraft, and wikianswers. Community discussions are nice and i would love to participate in them a lot if that's ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slimhady (talk • contribs) 19:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answers - that's great. On the userpage issue, ask Quadell - he is an admin and will be able to delete the revisions for you (refer him to this discussion if you need to).
- I see you have found a WikiProject, that's great and what I was going to recommend. It might be a good idea to place {{User WP Music}} to your talk page, so that people know you are interested in helping out there. That WikiProject will have lists of things that need doing and a place for you to discuss what needs to be done there - you might want to introduce yourself on the talk page. What articles do you think you would like to improve? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help as for quadell i'll ask him. But i'm not sure what articles i'm going to edit yet.
- )- Slim hady 20:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Ok. It would be a good idea to find some articles you would like to edit - it will help you get moving here. Perhaps look for a game you know that needs to be improved and start there. I know it can be a little daunting at first: if there are articles you are interested in but don't know how to improve, send me a message with a link to the article and I'll give you some pointers. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
The AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornerstone Barristers
I'm a U.S. editor not associated with the British legal system or any company or association involved with such. I discovered the above discussion while going through very old AfD discussions and decided after a reasonable search to assert "keep." Would you consider looking at my assertion to see if anything I've written changes your mind? I've suggested to the COI ip address he or she disclose their interest and find some solid sources which demonstrate notability under the old brand name. No matter what your decision, I appreciate your giving this a second look. BusterD (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Very kind of you to reconsider. I should mention you accidentally struck through Mr. S's delete, not your own. BusterD (talk) 19:03, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oh yes - thanks for notifying me. Whoops. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:06, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Adoption
Hi, I would like to be adopted for a short period of time, just to improve my editing and knowledge. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:19, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Tomtomn00, thanks for your request. I would be happy to adopt you, though there are some things I'd let to let you know before we start. Firstly, adoption isn't a quick process and can take a few months; I will do my utmost to help you learn and get to know how things work, but I will expect commitment on your part. Secondly, you will be only the second person I have formally adopted, so I will make no claims to be perfect - if that is a problem, then let me know. I will always answer any questions you have, either personally or pointing you towards the right people/place, as soon as I can. I'll follow how you're getting on and, when we both feel that you're ready, you will graduate from the programme. Is that all ok? If you're happy with that, let me know, and I'll take you on.
- I would also like to invite you to the Wikipedia Teahouse, where I am a host. It is a friendly place for new users to introduce themselves, meet other editors and ask any questions they have. The Teahouse should give extra help and support, on top of our adoption. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm okay with that. However, I'm not really new and have been here since 2010, first edit in 2011. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. I would be happy to adopt you. I will watch your progress and try to help wherever I can; if you ever have a problem or a question (about anything - policy, technical things, other editors, whatever), come and ask me. I would like to know - what areas of Wikipedia are you interested in editing? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Anything in the article, wikipedia, template, category and all talk mainspaces. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, that's quite broad. Are there any specific areas that you are interested in (outside of Wikipedia) - that could be academic, sports, games or TV programmes, music, anything. I find that it is good to know the kind of area you enjoy editing, as it will editing much more fun. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Anything in the article, wikipedia, template, category and all talk mainspaces. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. I would be happy to adopt you. I will watch your progress and try to help wherever I can; if you ever have a problem or a question (about anything - policy, technical things, other editors, whatever), come and ask me. I would like to know - what areas of Wikipedia are you interested in editing? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm okay with that. However, I'm not really new and have been here since 2010, first edit in 2011. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Mostly Technology, Music, Art and Mathematics. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, that's good to know. WikiProjects exists for all of those - music, technology, arts and mathematics. Do any of those grab your fancy? I would advise trying to get involved with one, as they will be able to tell you what needs doing and the best articles to edit. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm in computing, mathematics and music so far. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
What the benefit of adopting a user
What the benefit of adopting a user & getting adopted, i have never heard of this feature before on wikipedia. And how does it work? I am assuming it keeps you away from trouble or getting blocked?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 22:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Most people's aim on Wikipedia is to be the best editor they can be. What User:Worm That Turned has said about his adoption process is that it gives you a good grounding in all the basic areas you need knowledge of to be able to become a great editor. (It's not a preparation for being an administrator, which a few people mistakenly see it as.) Of course, all adoptees handle adoption differently to one extent or another, and also most adopters will adapt their adoption process according to the needs of the adoptee. So adoption can help address issues like over-focusing on one topic or getting angry or whatever.
- Now of course, assuming the adoption process achieves some of these aims, yes it can help prevent you getting blocked. On the other hand, if there are problems that can't be dealt with (or can't be dealt with quickly enough), then it won't always prevent you getting blocked. It's not an anti-block shield. In fact, some adopters do end up having to block their own adoptees, either permanently or temporarily.
- You also asked about the benefits of adopting. The benefits there are very much like the benefits of helping new editors in less formal processes. We all know that there are lots of Wikipedia requirements and approaches and policies that are (almost) second nature once you know them, but absolutely arcane and frustrating when encountering them explained badly (or not explained at all) when first starting out editing. Being able to (hopefully) make that process so much easier for someone who is enthusiastic about contributing but frustrated by the obstacles, is immensely rewarding. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
New Page Triage newsletter
Hey all!
Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).
In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at Wikipedia:New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!
Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
William S. Sadler
Hi again, I let William S. Sadler sit for a couple weeks and then went over the prose again. I'm hoping to build it up to featured status. Could you take another look and see if you can spot any issues? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)