User talk:DangerousPanda

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Hello Bwilkins. I have sent you an email on a private matter that I am sure you know which is :) Have a nice day. Regards. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 01:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Oddly it has not yet arrived (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Very odd indeed. I marked to receive a copy that has not yet arrived to my inbox either. I will write to you again. Cheers. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 20:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay I have sent the email again. Cheers. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 20:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Got it ... haven't had a chance to review everything I want to yet (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I have no hurries. Thank you again :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 00:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Don't forget about me :) but take your time though. I know you have real life and work. Have a nice day. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 19:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't like to bug but... any update? :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 17:21, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I have already stepped forward at AN, so the email is now a bit useless. Thanks anyways :) — Hahc21^talk 04:26, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Lord Almighty, if I had known you were contemplating something as stupid as this, I would have said something much sooner. I actually wanted to see how you were going to react to a few things already added to your plate (which, by the way, I think were HUGE mistakes) (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Crown the Empire Userfication

Bwilkins, I have completed adding the items (billboard charts) that made Crown the Empire notable. Please review the page. It still needs a little more editing that I am not sure how to do but it's a start. I look forward to hearing back from you. I do not have the time right now (or in the foreseeable future) to make too many more changes in any form of a timely manner. Is there a way to put it back to the WP community for better/more timely editing?

Sorry it took so long, I'm in the US Navy and recent events have drawn my attention. It can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mariolennox/Crown_the_Empire#History Mariolennox (talk) 11:12, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Unblock request from Laurieshaw8

Hi, BW. I have just declined an unblock request at User talk:Laurieshaw8, even though you had left the unblock request open and invited the user to give further comments, with a view to possibly being unblocked. This was in no way a rejection of your decision, and I even encouraged the user in my declining message to take up your suggestion. However, I felt that it might be unhelpful to leave the request open, attracting who knows how many admins to spend time investigating the situation, only to find that the matter is already being addressed. I thought it better to close the request, while including an explicit invitation to make another unblock request when he/she has read your comment and is ready to respond to it. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:55, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Got it, and agree. I do think my request was on the generous side, but as I disagree that her edits were "vandalism" - more of a COI-based content dispute, I think the door needs to be open. Thanks for the heads-up. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Your comment on INeverCry RfA

Hello Bwilkins. I don't have any questions about your votes, but why do you call Commons a cesspool. I know there are numbers of personal and sexual images, which is unacceptable to me and some people, ways of working I don't really approve, but I love Commons as it is a storage of tons of valuable free images (you can see annual POTY votes. We are working to keep Commons. I'm sad as this is said by a trusted admin of a project I respect most. I don't mean anything else, just a little of my thoughts. Regards Morning Sunshine (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree - Commons has a great possible role. But the issues there right now almost outweigh the benefits - and you have hit the nail on the head. As such, since nobody is willing fix it - even by fiat - it's a mess. That's not an insult to anyone, but to the mess that it has become (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:56, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi there

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My block expired a few hours ago and I wanted to ask you if you had the chance to review the case. As I understand it I was blocked for WP:NPA after stating several times the editor Wee Curry Monster was making "untrue statements" purposely misrepresenting my comments. Prior to that I addressed them as "lies" but after I was advised not to do so (in the last ANI) I stopped. I see now that "untrue statements" isn't acceptable either. Fair enough I shall not use the word "lies" or "untrue statements" again. Now this raises the obvious question: what should I do when this editor purposely makes a misrepresentation of comments/facts in a discussion? I can present the evidence for this editor doing so quite a number of times (I actually did at the last ANI[1]). I'd have no problem in assuming good faith if it weren't for the fact that he never once either apologized or acknowledged having done so. What should I do as an editor when another editor behaves like this over and over again?
Also, if you have the time could you please drop by the talk page Talk:Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute and the ANI report and tell me if you believe editors Wee and Kahastok are properly interpreting the discussion as to give them consensus to delete the whole section from the article? I know this is a lot of work, but I've seriously done everything in my power to address thess issues short of taking both editors to Arbcom which I really do not want to do. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 16:20, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'll drop by the article in question - but I will say I'm surprised you were blocked for such a short time. I'll try and make some other comments later (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll await your comments. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 21:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

One word of advice: you have been the most abrasive, disruptive editor throughout that entire ANI discussion. I'm not sure if I had ever interacted with you before that report, but I know what I feel about your editing and behaviour based on that alone ... you should quit posting there while you're ahead (of a longer block) (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I actually had no intentions of writing over there anymore but had to respond to Irondome who wrote his message to me there. I do still maintain that it is profoundly unjust that Wee and Kahastok get to claim "consensus" to remove and entire section that had been there for a long time, when everybody could see there was no consensus for that at all.

I'm pretty sure we have not crossed paths before on any article but I kind of perceive you have your mind already made up about me. I hope this can change in the future and I would still really appreciate your comments on the deeper issue of editor WCM misrepresenting my comments and what I should do about it. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 21:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bwilkins quick question: could you point me to where I could raise the issue of what to do when another editor purposely and repeatedly misrepresents comments/facts to gain an advantage in a discussion? I really don't want to be blocked again for pointing at "untrue statements" but I really need a way to deal with this. I understand if you don't want to get involved or just don't care enough (which is fine) so if you could just point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 15:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Have you followed WP:DR? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:15, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I had the idea that the DR noticeboard was mainly about content, not editors behavior. That page led me to RfC/U though, which I believe would be more appropriate (since there is also the issue of the constant "sock puppet" accusations that have been going on over a year now) Thank you for your help, see you around. Gaba p (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

However, much of your problem centres around content. If the issues of content are resolved, then hopefully the behaviour issues drop off. If not, then RFC/U are needed. I could be wrong. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, just letting you know I followed your recommendation and opened a report at DR/N when the discussion on the issue at the talk page was exhausted. Please take notice of Wee's comment on the report where he indulges in several WP:PAs when he could have simply commented on the content issue. This is exactly what goes on at the talk page. I'm not asking you to get involved or anything, I just wanted an impartial outsider to be aware of these things because afterwards I'm the one always being reprimanded when I comment on his behaviour. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 17:35, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I did wonder why a frivolous case had been raised at WP:DRN and now it is clear. Please note as regards the discussion on the talk page, there is near agreement amongst all editors; except Gaba p. There is no content issue to speak of, the matter is one of user behaviour and the discussion there has not been helped by the confrontational attitude emanating from Gaba p. An RFC/U concerning Gaba p may well be appropriate at this juncture. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Once again please notice Wee's numerous comments about me instead of simply commenting on the content dispute to try to solve the issue. He could have stated his reasons five times now with all the text he used to attack me. I'm making a very simple question at DR/N and I simply asked for outside comments on it.

Wee, if you want to start an RFC/U against me then please go ahead. In the meantime I'd appreciate if you could try to comment on the content dispute at DR/N instead of bashing me on every comment you make. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Dapi89

Hey Bwilkins. I have come across this user, Dapi89 after he made a series of harsh comments about a new reviewer at GAN. I warned him of his behaviour right on the GAN talk page, and he has continued, writing out a bunch of personal attacks to this new user, who is doing his best to help at GAN. The thread is here. Please take a look at it of you can; I think this deserves your attention. — ṘΛΧΣ²¹ 19:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Whether or not the reviewer is "high quality", it never excuses the level of incivility being shown by Dapi. Period. They have a pretty long block list - some for NPA too (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:54, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. I warned Dapi to stop acting like that. His comments are very damaging and not welcomed. I preferred to let you know about this before bringing it to ANI. Thanks. — ṘΛΧΣ²¹ 20:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I see you have already dealt with it. Thanks Bwilkins, and have a nice day :) — ṘΛΧΣ²¹ 20:10, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

We'll see when he returns if it's actually "dealt with" - the goal of a block is to protect immediately, prevent recurrence. Let me know if anything remotely similar comes from it once the short block expires (✉→BWilkins←✎) 20:13, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I just wanted him to stop biting the users who try to help us at GAN. I will let you know if anything happens after his block expires. Thanks for the help. — ṘΛΧΣ²¹ 20:45, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

This was pointless. I would have contested if I had seen it earlier. And for your information, Bwilkins, I had already said I had nothing further to say -- did you not read that? So you've actually continued it when it didn't need to be. As this new user isn't involved in the G.A review he is no longer an issue for me. Dapi89 (talk) 13:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Obviously, incivility means zero to you. The fact you have not withdrawn or apologized speaks volumes, and shows the block was indeed preventative, as is the nature of blocks. Thanks for proving me right (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:34, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I had already ended it, so it wasn't, it didn't and it doesn't. Bye. Dapi89 (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Darkness Shines block (technical question)

Could you visit WP:VPT and offer input, if you have any, on the "Messed-up block message" section? I'm seeing an old block message when I look at Darkness' old contributions, and in particular I was curious if you saw anything unusual when blocking him. Nyttend (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

File:96.9 The Bull Logo.svg

Would you mind deleting the above linked image? The user uploaded it as the logo for WXBQ-FM, which as you can see from WXBQ's website the above image is not their logo. WXBQ has had the same bunny rabbit logo for a good 15+ years now, so I have the feeling "the bull" logo is a hoax. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Just lighting this up again. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Obviously I'm loathe to delete things like that without wider consensus ... (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

To bring to your attention

This relates to User:ObscureReality's actions. It started with this incident. I understand that he created the page, and may want it a particular way, but i did not expect to be accused of being unfamiliar with the English language just because I am from India. But it really did not bug me, so i dropped it. But then came this on my talk page (which i have since removed, as i don't want such stuff there). I replied on their talk page here, that i do not want any further contact with them. But i am forced to bring it to the attention of an administrator after the edit summary here. I think that the edit summary should be struck off. I believe it started as a content dispute; it should have remained so, and not get turned into a personal attack. Thanks. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 14:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I have blocked OR for the blatant racist NPA, and I have REVDEL'd the edit-summary (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! But they seem to continue their rants on their talk page, spewing even more blatant racism, and hinting at being disruptive by resorting to sock-puppetry. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:52, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I've blocked talk page access. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:23, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Unblock of User:Sudar123

You declined an unblock request for User:Sudar123 and it seems like he has shown a greater understanding of the rules, can we make the unblock happen please? I'd rather avoid the bureaucracy of taking it to Arbcom, but if that is necessary so be it. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 15:13, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Commented there, but how fricking ridiculous - he's been asked to prove himself. I want proof. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:33, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion

[2] Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 16:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I see a ridiculous piece of what appears to be WP:HOAX ... what am I supposed to see? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:46, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

A very silly piece of edit-warring to keep a ridiculously pointless image in an article; I have dropped notes to both editors (the editor wishing to keep it in has reverted six times today). Black Kite (talk) 16:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure why it would appear to be a hoax when it is properly sourced, using online articles published by the University of Columbia. Of course it is ridiculous - it is an extinct fly named after a Playboy model! My only intent was to protect the article while it was featured on the main page. Per DYK rules, the featured image must be part of the article. None of the DYK reviewers protested against the use of the image; in fact, one of them suggested its inclusion. I would not have reverted a sensible tag, but tagging the article for systemic bias was just ridiculous. I sincerely apologize if I was disruptive. Surtsicna (talk) 17:08, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

It reads like a hoax. The image of the person makes it seem like a joke. It should be a scientific article, not what it is now. The name of the bug is secondary to its characteristics, etc.

Perhaps the bug should have been scientifically named. The fact that the entomologist who named the genus and the species deliberately (and almost admittedly) made a joke out of it probably helps making the entire article look like a joke. Had I been able to access the entire article in the journal, I would have written more about the insect's characteristics. Unfortunately, I was not. Surtsicna (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

The name of the bug is irrelevant - things are named after people all the time. However, just because the bug has a specific name does not mean that the article should be turned into a joke (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:04, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Blocked user editing by proxy

Is it acceptable for a temporarily blocked editor to be placing requests on his talk page for others to edit in specific ways on his behalf? User talk:Darkness Shines has three examples of this so far. He is blocked until Friday. I would think that he could find other things to do until then - on the bright side, at least he isn't socking. Elizium23 (talk) 17:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Help needed - Indef blocked user editing as ip

ObscureReality, an editor you blocked here and who had his talk page access revoked by Fut Perf, is back again at his talk page, as an ip; and also on another article's talk page. Can this be labelled sock puppetry? Are their edits allowed, or to be reverted. I know indef blocked is not same as a banned. What is to be done in such cases? Anir1uph | talk | contrib 13:34, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I see that you blocked the ip for 48 hours. So that means their edits are not to be reverted, right? Can you explain to me/refer me to a policy page so i don't bother you more on this. :) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 01:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

If their edits to articles are unhelpful/unsourced/etc they can be reverted, just like any other editor. Only banned editors can have edits reverted on-sight (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:09, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 11:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Range block

In relation to this edit, there is a range block that you evidently didn't see, as you can see here. I have no idea whether you know perfectly how to check for range blocks and just didn't think to do so this time, or whether you don't know how to do it. However, just in case you don't know, you can look at the IP edit history page and click on the link "Current blocks" at the bottom of the page. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

On that one I just didn't check, intentionally. The quick check of the IP itself made the reason for any possible block pretty obvious, and thus creating an account to edit was going to be the best for the project as a whole. Cheers! (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it. I did think it very unlikely that you wouldn't know how to check, but it didn't cross my mind that it might be a deliberate decision not to do so. JamesBWatson (talk)

Overly long ANI

It seems you were right, and no official action was taken. Do you know what I can do at this point? The editor with whom the conflict started has begun reverting any edits by other users to the articles in question. He refuses to engage in a discussion regarding content and simply attacks me and other users. The articles are uneditable, and it's not right that a user - registered or not - can behave in such a way. I'm not sure where to take this. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:44, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Dispute resolution? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see...so it might be better to take this discussion off the articles themselves then, huh? MezzoMezzo (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Bottlenose.com page

Hi, I just wanted to identify the problem with this page and what is required to prepare it for publication. Coaimhin (talk) 08:35, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

For the third time, the company was not notable. Wikipedia is not a business directory, it's an encyclopedia of notable topics. I left you a detailed message on your talkpage that links to all the important policies for your first article. When you asked to get Confirmed Status, I advised you the article was not ready for articlespace - why on Earth would you go ahead and move it anyway? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Darkness Shines

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as soon as he returned from the block that you administered, he has started edit-warring against consensus in Rape culture.Handyunits (talk) 10:09, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

There is an ongoing RFC and there is no consensus for the removal of the content in the first two reverts I had done yesterday, the last revert was of entirely new content I had just added. I would be more concerned over the IP which just appeared to support your removal of reliably sourced content. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:14, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Please WP:AGF. The IP is mine. I'm having some login problems with my browser cookies and it keeps logging me out for some bizarre reason. Also, please see the overwhelming consensus against your disruptive edits in the articles history section. Handyunits (talk) 10:18, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Here[3][4], he has stated that he will continue to edit-war against overwhelming consensus once the 24 hour-period banning Three revert rule is up. While it does not violate the letter of policy, his general behavior and incivility violates the spirit of collaboration that I and many other editors have striven greatly to build up over the days, one that has lead to a dense, lucid, well thought out and properly sourced scholarly piece of encyclopedic work that he seeks to undermine.Handyunits (talk) 15:57, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

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More pugnacious conduct

For a detailed knowledge please see this and this. Thank you. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 16:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Tristan noir

I won't be poking any bears. ;)

But I noticed you got the topic ban wrong. Everyone involved was basically agreed that he should be banned from Japanese literature, not just poetry. The concern is that, among the problematic edits he made that caused him to need to be blocked, only about 25% of them were related to poetry.

elvenscout742 (talk) 15:20, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

On a slightly related note, I notice that you used WP:POKE as the shortcut for "poke the bear" in your closing statement, but I don't think you really meant it, as it goes to WikiProject Pokemon. :) I'm guessing that you meant WP:BEAR instead. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

For the reference of others, I note you fixed both of the above here and all subsequent notes seem to be correct. I came here to thank you for an excellent close. Different to what I had suggested, but entirely in line with community consensus and sufficient, I think, for those who had called for more. There's been a few like this from the admin corps of late - renews my faith in the overall use of the mop. Nice work. Stalwart111 03:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

	Hello Bwilkins, Stalwart111 has given you ironic sushi, for all your excellent effort in resolving the above! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else ironic sushi! Enjoy! Keep up the good work!

Thanks for the note (and the sushi). We rarely get told if we do something good, but certainly hear about it when someone believes we did something bad (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Apologies

Apologies for the revert (Oops). it was a misclick. Have a nice day. — Hahc21^talk 15:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

AN/TPS vandal

Just a heads up on the block for User talk:181.156.213.17. This nut has been vandalizing the article AN/TPS-43 onsistently and repeatedly since 2006. Always the same MO. Always IPs from Colombia. Started at 24 hours and grew to 1 year. He ran out of IPs at home, school and work (always in Colombia) and now he is trying mobile IPs. Please watchlist (article is currently semi-protected) and block on sight for 1 year as many admins now do. Thanks. -- Alexf^(talk) 12:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok. You'll note his unblock request ... since I don't think you're a murderer, I figured protecting the talkpage (as opposed to removing talkpage access) would work for now (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. That is his bad English. He wanted to say that and literally translated from Spanish (which I'm fluent on). having been blocking him repeatedly since 2006 you could say he doesn't like me much. -- Alexf^(talk) 13:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Kids these days

Just a minor comment, I always bear in mind WP:BEANS when I make a comment to an editor like Gaba p. Suggesting WP:DRN was a bit beansy, if you were to take a peek at the case he raised, he is alleging I'm opposing something I have not expressed any opinion on. Its a frivolous use of DRN and it is not only wasting my time but the time of the people who volunteer there. If you're saying my comments come across as childish, first of all thanks for the reality check, and second you might like to consider the irritation factor when you have someone like him constantly going on at you all the time. Wee Curry Monster talk 13:55, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

The AVSIG page and nomination for deletion.

Dear BWilins,

I believe you are the one who put the speedy deletion on the AVSIG page. The page is still there, but I can see why the request for speedy deletion. I have started an AVISIG/sandbox page, and hopefully in two weeks, we -- members of AVSIG -- will have a page ready to post that no adm. will have an objection too. Before I post it, I will contact you and others to review it first.

FYI, AVSIG is a real, well know organization in the aerospace community -- mainly retired military pilots and General Aviation (GA) -- and is famous for the starting the trend on Compuserve (then there was nothing but Compuserve) for forums for professional organizations we see all over the internet now. Its claim that it is one -- if not the first -- professional forum is true.

If you have any questions, complaints, suggestions, etc. please contact me at this thread. I will check it regularly. Also if you think there should not be a page on AVSIG -- even if we work it up properly in a sandbox -- please tell me. I have wrote several articles and edited hundred of others, but I have never had a speedy deletion. So I don't know the next step, and even if it is final.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Jackehammond (talk • contribs)

First, the article is up for deletion discussion, a process that keeps it open for 7 days for community discussion based on policy. Second, people who are related to the organization or have too close of a vested interest in the topic should not be writing the article as they (like yourself) have a rather skewed version of its notability. Also, sources, citations, and more reliable sources are absolute key. The linked words are key for you. If any of the above are "violated", then any article will "fail". (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Comment on Hahc21's talkpage

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This is in reference to this comment. Honestly, you seem like a good editor, I've never seen you go off the walls at someone (unnecessarily at least). However, this is rude, and an overall bad comment to make to another editor. So what if Hahc21 wants to edit and be helpful? Clearly others thought he was helpful enough to include him in the committee. If you have an issue with it, talk to the governing members of the so-called "trophies" he has. Don't make a rude comment on his talkpage. If you could go strike it or remove it, I'd appreciate it. gwickwire^talk_edits 01:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bwilkins. I really don't think that comment at Hahc21 (talk · contribs)'s talk page was unnecessary, and in my opinion, it comes across as just plain uncivil and a borderline personal attack to the user. You already expressed your opinion at their requests for adminship and there's no need to keep going on about it, and I honesty don't see the large problem here. Please consider the feelings of others before leaving such comments. TBrandley ^{(what's up)} 02:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

This was totally uncalled for. Find something better to do than bait people on their talk pages. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Let's be serious for a second here, and put things in perspective: the kid barely just came off some well-deserved restrictions. After what we saw in his RFA, that lifting was under some slightly fraudulent conditions with the nominators all having appeared to !vote in his favour, and wikilawyer wording like "I promise not to do NAC's (because I'm planning RFA)". There were more than one suggestion of trophy-collecting in that RFA. Lo and behold, the day after his RFA he suddenly has a brand new role - was this also on the go in the middle of the RFA? Was it disclosed during the RFA? It's absolute proof of trophy collecting. This kid is hiding far to many things when they should be in the open. Perhaps it's an absolute lack of maturity - well, there's no "perhaps" about it - I just looked at his response to my message on his page and he sealed the deal. If he (or you guys) can't see the perception that this all make then I wonder about the lot of you. Look, this has nothing to do with his desire to help the project - we all want that. This is flat out deception and manipulation of the community by not only Hahc, but a handful of enablers. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Do you believe that the paragraph above is an example of AGF? --Rschen7754 10:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

You know, I've been AGF'ing with Hahc for over a year now. I'm not going to ride the AGF toboggan into the trees, and sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

For the record, all the roles I have been entrusted have been discussed publicly. My FLC delegate appointment was discussed for a considerable amount of time at WT:FLC. Iam not a kid, and I have nothing to hide. If you consider that what I do is trophy collecting, you are entitled to have your incorrect and somewhatchildish opinion about it. The fact that you are not aware of when and where the discussions are being held is not something I can fix. Also, that restriction was not well-deserved, and even the original proposer of the restriction supported its removal. I don't understand how you can call your actions as AGF when all you have been doing is just await the perfect moment to appear and start complaining. I agree and admit that running for adminship like I did was a BIG, HUGE mistake, but that doesn't give you open doors to go and badger the users who supported me (like you did with Cyberpower, very childish in my opinion), or to start leaving uncalled for and very unnecessary comments on my talk page. Did you really believe that nobody will see that comment? Did you really believe that all the "jobs" I have accepted, I do it just to say that I have them? If, for you,being an ArbCom clerk,or an FL delegate, is a big authority position, then you have to reconsider your approach to the encyclopedia. Regards. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 15:25, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Wow. Is this how you try to prove you're not acting childishly? There's barely anying in the above screed that's even true. I mean if you're childish enough to read my interaction with Cyberpower as "childish" and "badgering" by any sense of the imagination, then you're in more trouble than I originally thought. I suggest that you not leave your ethics at the door when you login to Wikipedia from now on, especially considering the roles you now have. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:25, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I echo Mark's comment below. And well, I think I have a good amount of ethics and maturity to perform the roles community have entrusted me. I think that, considering that we cannot have a peaceful talk without you doing unexpected things, or me having to read your sarcastic comments or leaving myself spade a spade comments to you, the best we can do is to not to talk. This is only wasting our time. I have tasks to do, you have users to block, so lets not extend this childish conversation anytime further. If you ever need me for something, or would like to talk to me about something that is really important for you or for me (e.g. not sarcastic, unnecessary comments about what I do here, etc.) I'd be more than glad to establish a conversation. Otherwise, I think we'd only make more noise than music here. Regards. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 16:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I dropped by your talkpage not as sarcasm, but to re-address one of the issues mentioned in your RFA, and honestly was intended to be a helpful comment about perception. Your hounds seem to have convinced you the meaning was otherwise, and they have made themselves and you look bad - congratulations on that. So, literally, if you want to live under the perception that everything you have done is excellent, ethical and justified, the just bugger off an go play with that warm comfy feeling. The perception of others around here is different - very different, and judging by the few-dozen e-mails I got this morning, I'll know that I did the right thing by warning you against the appearance of trophy-collection. Good luck, and get lost. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

@Bwilkins If you have concerns about Hahc's behavior, there are appropriate ways to address such things. Leaving sarcastic comments on his talk page is not one of them. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

This has been an interesting thread, and I've collected a few more cabalists to add to my watch list.

I have to agree with Mr. Wilkins in this case, though I'm not sure he isn't a member of some other cabal. You "kid"s, as Mr. Wilkins put it, are under observation. Note that I completely concur with the characterization of ΛΧΣ²¹ as a "kid", and that is not meant as a sidelong swipe at Mr. Wilkins.

You guys seem to be aiming at climbing the corporate ladder here at WP, right?--Ubikwit (talk) 16:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hey

Can we talk (not here) Till 12:19, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to use the e-mail me link (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks Till 13:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Capri Anderson

• Before I recreate this article, I would like to signal to you that she does actually pass WP:PORNBIO now, as she won a Best Supporting Actress AVN award in 2013 . Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 20:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

As you already know, it's best to create a USERSPACEDRAFT first --(✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)