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== Swiss canton district naming convention ==
== Swiss canton district naming convention ==
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Talk:Districts_of_Switzerland#Article_naming]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} [[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 04:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC){{z48}}
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Talk:Districts_of_Switzerland#Article_naming]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} [[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 04:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC){{z48}}

== I would like to have your advice concerning an editor who disrupt my editing ==

The issue is related to the recent [[wp:ae#Pluto2012]] but I am asking about possible future problems. He routinely deletes a lot of (probably most of) my editing, although he has no Wikipedia accepted reason to delete it. As shown in the [[wp:ae#Pluto2012]] he is cheating, falsely claims for POV or UNDUE etc. It seems to be a conduct issue, but according to the [[wp:ae#Pluto2012]] it is a content issue. However, the [[wp:drn]] is nearly worthless (sorry for the harsh words) since most of my disputes are expiring with no solution. The question is what is the threshold of his offenses (amount and / or severeness) that would make it suitable for a [[wp:ae]] claim ?

For instance, let us watch his latest deletion. Here is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fawzi_al-Qawuqji&diff=581594387&oldid=581544101 The Diff page], in which my sentence is deleted: ''"On August 1947, Fawzi al-Qawuqji threatened that, should the (U.N. partition) vote go the wrong way, “we will have to initiate total war. We will murder, wreck and ruin everything standing in our way, be it English, American or Jewish"<ref name="morris2008p61"/>.''".

Here is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fawzi_al-Qawuqji the talk page], in which he have a couple of false claims, among them:''" this quote is WP:UNDUE or does not comply with WP:NPoV due to the total lack of contextualization or comments from WP:RS sources regarding what should be understood from it''".

* It is not a [[WP:NPoV]] since there is no alternative POV. Also, Pluto and Huldra (the opposing editors) does not mention what could be an alternative view.
* It is not [[WP:UNDUE]] since there is no other views . It consists of 1 sentence only, so it can not be to long as compared to the rest of the article.

Anyway, I have asked Huldra what kind of context he wants me to add, but have not received a reply yet.

As said, this is just an example for Pluto2012 disruptive editing. So I repeat the question: '''what is the threshold of his offenses (amount and / or severeness) that would make it suitable for a [[wp:ae]] claim ?
''' [[User:Ykantor|Ykantor]] ([[User talk:Ykantor|talk]]) 19:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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User:Erim Turukku and Ismail I article

After subsequent discussions with this "editor", I have come to the conclusion this person will not accept any facts from these sources;Cambridge University Press, Andrew J. Newman, Rudi Mathee, Stuart Cary Welch, H.R. Roemer. Calling them, "not reliable".[1]

Also, this editor has falsified information from C.E. Bosworth's, The Ghaznavids:994-1040, page 134. I own said book and the supposed "quote"[2] does not exist on page 134 nor anywhere else in the book.

As such, I am asking that User:Erim Turukku be notified of the editing restrictions covering Armenia and Azerbaijan.

This editor also needs to be warned against copy & pasting another editor's source and simply writing whatever he/she wants(ie.source falsification).

I realize you might be busy right now, so no hurry. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't have the time to look into this, but any user may issue a warning as far as I know.  Sandstein  20:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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wp:ae comments

I've just noticed in the wp:ae about Cavann, that my response is needed, but given the fact that the statements should be shortened, I assume I have to wait for the trimming first. I guess it won't make sense to respond to allegations that will be possible shortened.Alexikoua (talk) 20:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your sustained drive to require attribution for images when the author requests it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:10, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Machine-gun nest listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Machine-gun nest. Since you had some involvement with the Machine-gun nest redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). BDD (talk) 23:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MarshalN20

Sandstein, I've no opinion on the bulk of your comments at AE, but note that he is permitted to edit the Falkland Islands article, per this: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Argentine History#Amendments. If that affects your decision on whether to block, or the length of the block, probably better to address it now. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've noticed, and left a correction. Thanks,  Sandstein  19:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
no prob. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:28, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but I happen to think a month's block is quite outrageous in this case. Technically a violation of his topic ban but he withdrew from commenting two weeks ago. Hitting with the block hammer now is simply punitive not preventative. I would ask you take your block decision to WP:AN for review. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:49, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree; it's preventative in that it prevents or deters further violations. MarshalN20's response didn't contain a clear statement that they acknowledge that their edits were topic ban violations and that they will not repeat them, so I believe an enforcement block is required. If they disagree with the block, MarshalN20 is free to appeal it.  Sandstein  19:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am raising this at WP:AN to request a review, I don't find your reply to be satisfactory as a means of dealing with a stale issue. It is no way preventative. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sandstein. concerning MarshalN20, I'm currently in an edit war with this editor and I believe MarshalN20 was given a one month ban from editing which is still in enforce yet he had no problems editing some of my work in a wikipedia page. I just want some clarification, can he still edit pages? has the ban been removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelios123 (talkcontribs) 18:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I lifted the block on MarshalN20. They are still subject to a Southern American history topic ban. Please see my comments at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Chelios123 reported by User:MarshalN20 (Result: )‎.  Sandstein  18:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

November 2013

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TickPick

Hey,

I just graduated from college, and have been thinking about contributing some stuff to startups, etc. I used to be on here a lot when I was younger, but kind of fell out of it. I was gonna do a short blurb on TickPick (a ticket software thingamabobber) and it said that you had already deleted a page with the same name and that I should talk to you . . .

Thanks, Portlandiaman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Portlandiaman (talkcontribs) 14:46, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Swiss canton district naming convention

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Districts_of_Switzerland#Article_naming. Eric talk 04:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

I would like to have your advice concerning an editor who disrupt my editing

The issue is related to the recent wp:ae#Pluto2012 but I am asking about possible future problems. He routinely deletes a lot of (probably most of) my editing, although he has no Wikipedia accepted reason to delete it. As shown in the wp:ae#Pluto2012 he is cheating, falsely claims for POV or UNDUE etc. It seems to be a conduct issue, but according to the wp:ae#Pluto2012 it is a content issue. However, the wp:drn is nearly worthless (sorry for the harsh words) since most of my disputes are expiring with no solution. The question is what is the threshold of his offenses (amount and / or severeness) that would make it suitable for a wp:ae claim ?

For instance, let us watch his latest deletion. Here is The Diff page, in which my sentence is deleted: "On August 1947, Fawzi al-Qawuqji threatened that, should the (U.N. partition) vote go the wrong way, “we will have to initiate total war. We will murder, wreck and ruin everything standing in our way, be it English, American or Jewish"[1].".

Here is the talk page, in which he have a couple of false claims, among them:" this quote is WP:UNDUE or does not comply with WP:NPoV due to the total lack of contextualization or comments from WP:RS sources regarding what should be understood from it".

  • It is not a WP:NPoV since there is no alternative POV. Also, Pluto and Huldra (the opposing editors) does not mention what could be an alternative view.
  • It is not WP:UNDUE since there is no other views . It consists of 1 sentence only, so it can not be to long as compared to the rest of the article.

Anyway, I have asked Huldra what kind of context he wants me to add, but have not received a reply yet.

As said, this is just an example for Pluto2012 disruptive editing. So I repeat the question: what is the threshold of his offenses (amount and / or severeness) that would make it suitable for a wp:ae claim ? Ykantor (talk) 19:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference morris2008p61 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).