Jump to content

Wikipedia talk:Twinkle: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Line 108: Line 108:
:No; create an account, make 10 edits and wait 4 days if you want to use Twinkle. — <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:1px 0 0 1px">[[User:This, that and the other|This, that]]</span> and <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:0 1px 1px 0">[[User talk:This, that and the other|the other<small> (talk)</small>]]</span> 00:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
:No; create an account, make 10 edits and wait 4 days if you want to use Twinkle. — <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:1px 0 0 1px">[[User:This, that and the other|This, that]]</span> and <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:0 1px 1px 0">[[User talk:This, that and the other|the other<small> (talk)</small>]]</span> 00:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
:This would be difficult to make available for anonymous IPs, because without an account, there is no [[Help:preferences|preferences]] panel. Logged-in, [[WP:autoconfirmed|autoconfirmed]] users can easily turn Twinkle ''on and off'', whereas we would have to make it either mandatory for IPs (not what most would want) or, as it is now, not there at all. So, can't help you...see This, that and the other's comment. <span style="font-family: sylfaen">[[User:Eman235|<font color="green">E'''man'''</font><font color="#6643d1">2'''35'''</font>]]/[[User talk:Eman235|<font color="brown">''talk''</font>]]</span> 00:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
:This would be difficult to make available for anonymous IPs, because without an account, there is no [[Help:preferences|preferences]] panel. Logged-in, [[WP:autoconfirmed|autoconfirmed]] users can easily turn Twinkle ''on and off'', whereas we would have to make it either mandatory for IPs (not what most would want) or, as it is now, not there at all. So, can't help you...see This, that and the other's comment. <span style="font-family: sylfaen">[[User:Eman235|<font color="green">E'''man'''</font><font color="#6643d1">2'''35'''</font>]]/[[User talk:Eman235|<font color="brown">''talk''</font>]]</span> 00:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
::Editing without an account means anybody can run [http://myip.ms/info/whois/143.176.62.228 basic lookups] on your IP address. Editing with an account actually increases your anonimity, so sign up today, and get Twinkle by Friday! <span style="font-family:Sylfaen;color:white;background:black;padding:0 3px;">☺&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User:Salvidrim!|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><span style="color:white">Salvidrim!</span></span>]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:Salvidrim!|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span> 00:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 00:44, 6 January 2015

This page is for general discussion and questions related to Twinkle. It is also one possible venue for reporting bugs and requesting new features; although see Bugs and feature requests below.

Consider also checking Twinkle's documentation, which may answer your question.

Bugs and feature requests

Bugs and feature requests can be reported at https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle (you will need to have a GitHub account). This will probably result in the issue being noticed sooner, as an e-mail is sent to all Twinkle developers. Alternatively, start a new discussion on this page. Possibly slower service, but you will be able to gain consensus, etc., if you need to.

Go to user talk when reverting pending changes

When a page is reverted with the pending changes "Revert changes" button, Twinkle should give a nice link to go to the user's talk page with the page name pre-filled, like it does when "real" rollback is used. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:35, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look into this. I only have reviewer rights on testwiki, so I hope our setup is not too different. — This, that and the other (talk) 02:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jackmcbarn: Hm, I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here. When I clicked "Reject changes" I seemed to get sent back to the article itself. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A link from the confirmation page, I mean. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Being hopelessly inexperienced with Pending Changes, I will need step-by-step instructions of every click you are making :) — This, that and the other (talk) 02:52, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So you want to see a talk page link even before you have made the revert? That seems like a strange order in which to do things. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I know that's kind of strange, but after the revert is made, there's nowhere to put the talk page link. The other alternative is to make the user's talk page pop open in a new window after the revert, the way that it does when you use Twinkle's own rollback to revert someone. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jackmcbarn: Sorry Jack, I missed your reply. Yes, a popup wouldn't be a bad idea, although I'm hesitant to add another one. I'll see what is possible here and think about the best way to implement it. — This, that and the other (talk) 07:26, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Threadcromancy, but I would suggest using popups to direct you quickly to their user talk page. You'll have to copy the page name manually, but it's nonetheless faster than clicking and clicking repeatedly. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 22:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to see the vandal's talk page, but I would like this bot to automatically create a talk page for the vandal, if necessary, and post a notice on the vandal's talk page that they did something offensive. In my recent use of this bot, no notice was posted on the vandal's talk page; apparently because there was no existing talk page for the vandal. - Ac44ck (talk) 19:11, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stuff

...for lack of a better heading.

  • The preferences panel at Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences nowhere states that twinkle preferences are actually stored on a wiki page, and are hence public (unlike the mediawiki preferences). A js-savvy user could easily understand what they mean (and even a not-so-savvy user could copy-paste someone else's preferences and then go to the twinkle preferences panel). Also, the page doesn't mention that the prefs will be released under the default wikipedia license. (Not sure if there's a copyright/privacy violation in there anywhere, but you might want to look into this.)
  • Someone might want to take a look at this commit I did downstream back in 2012. It includes a function to softcode namespace names in regex creation for the unlink tool in morebits.js. Devs may want to properly implement that upstream. The benefit would be that the regex would work on any wikipedia without problem.
  • There's a script at hi:User:Siddhartha Ghai/twinkle.js which loads for me a personal version of twinkle from various user subpages. The only difference from the gadget version is that the header and footer have been kept separate. Devs might want to consider separating them again since using this script, changes in one module can be tested easily with the other live modules (i.e copy one module to your userspace, make some changes, use hi:User:Siddhartha Ghai/twinkle.js to load the default gadget, only replacing the changed module with the userspace subpage instead of the mediawiki page) and you can test the changes live!
  • Over the past 1.5 months I've done a lot of updates to the gadget at hi.wp (stuff dating from May 2012 to October 2013). I'm just giving a heads up since I may have to take a long wikibreak and if the gadget breaks there, someone might complain here. Anything that was implemented after mid-October hasn't been implemented there (including the mediawiki js deprecations removal)
  • Oh, and it seems that Jimbo uses Twinkle too, in case any of the devs ever want to do an April Fool's prank for users in the founder group ;) --Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, even Jimbo Wales uses Twinkle? Man, this is just reason enough to get all autoconfirmed users in good standing to get Twinkle, even if they're not planning on using it often. It's just an awesome tool. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 21:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm considering adding a line to the top of the preferences panel saying "Note that your preferences will be released publicly as JavaScript code in a subpage of your user page." Thoughts? Eman235/talk 06:01, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you really want to do it, perhaps something less technical would be better: "Note that your preferences are stored in (a subpage of your user page). Only you (and Wikipedia administrators) can modify your preferences, but the settings you choose are visible to everyone." — This, that and the other (talk) 12:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And now the {{-}} is boggling me. If this note is going to be put in I don't think I can do it. Eman235/talk 00:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
*slaps self* never mind, figured it out. I made a slight change to the wording mention that it is JavaScript, not blatant text -- dunno what you think of that -- but yes, item one in this list is amended, kind of. Eman235/talk 00:48, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing iPhone warning selection

I was very pleasantly surprised to discover that the warning selection on my iPhone now works perfectly. (My request to get it fixed was archived about two weeks ago.) Many thanks to This, that and the other! MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:15, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When warning for edit-warring

The edit summary says "Warning: Violating the 3 revert rule at {page}" but the template is for generic editwarring and does not imply that the 3RR rule was broken. It should be changed to "Warning:Edit warring at {page}. KonveyorBelt 18:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested enhancement

Could Twinkle be enhanced to do what's proposed here: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 117#History diff link in deletion discussions? Please comment there as to whether this is possible or desirable. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 06:10, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I already commented there: yes, it should be possible. — This, that and the other (talk) 23:51, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No Twinkle options on user and user talk pages which don't exist

I'm not getting Twinkle options on redlinked user and user talk pages, either registered or IP. It works fine on pages which exist already, but I generally do more warns/welcomes/arvs for users with redlinks. I first noticed the problem yesterday or maybe the day before. I use MonoBook in case that's relevant. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 10:57, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out that the key piece of information was not the skin, but the browser. It works correctly in Firefox, but it's still broken in Chrome. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:10, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes. I was wondering what you were referring to, as all is well in Firefox! I'll fire up Chrome and take a look. — This, that and the other (talk) 07:52, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is working now. If you fixed it, then thank you; if it was some MediaWiki bug that got fixed, then thanks to whichever unknown person may have taken care of that. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 22:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I actually could never reproduce this issue, so I have to assume the problem was on your end. In any case, I'm glad you have the tabs back! — This, that and the other (talk) 00:40, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add {{db-spamuser-sandbox}} to CSD interface

I patrol the recent changes tag "Possible self-promotion in userspace" regularly and often come across sandboxes that would fit under this criteria. Was wondering, is there a reason why there's {{db-spamuser}} but not this one? And if it could be added after U5 and G11, maybe? — kikichugirl speak up! 21:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the place to discuss thesis at WT:CSD; twinkle just reflects the options set on the various actual policy pagers. DGG ( talk ) 00:24, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's only partly true; we certainly wouldn't add any CSD criteria without agreement at WT:CSD, but CSD templates are a different kettle of fish. I'll have to have a look at this particular template and will reply in more detail later. — This, that and the other (talk) 07:52, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Odd Twinkle Notification Issue

There appears to be a complicated problem with Twinkle in notifying the creator of an article that it has been tagged for speedy deletion or nominated for deletion at AFD. A page that is a biography of a living person was created in user space for a non-existent user, as User:Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist), which was just incorrect. I moved the page to draft space as Draft:Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist). The author then moved/promoted the article into article space as Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist). (By the way, the disambiguator is necessary, because Hari Singh Nalwa was a general with an existing article.) Another editor then tagged the article for speedy deletion. However, rather than notifying the originator of the tagging, Twinkle put the tag on User talk: Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist). Another editor then removed the speedy tag. I then nominated the article for deletion via deletion discussion. Twinkle again put the tag on User talk: Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist). I have copied the notice to the originator's talk page. I realize that this is a problem that is unlikely to occur under normal conditions (because creating a BLP as a user page is a strange error), but can someone look into it? It does appear to be reproducible, because the same article has been nominated twice via two processes. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to have been resolved at WP:VPT. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:30, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tag nominated for deletion

See here. (I am not the nominator, but am leaving a message here since the nominator did not.) –Chase (talk / contribs) 06:06, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rfd2m nominated for merging into Template:Rfd2 at WP:TFD

For those who watch this page, I would like to inform you that I have listed {{Rfd2m}} for merging into {{Rfd2}}. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 2#Template:Rfd2m. Also, side note, from what I see, Twinkle only utilizes {{Rfd2}} and not {{Rfd2m}}, so that gadget should be unaffected if this merge occurs per my nomination. Steel1943 (talk) 02:17, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous IP

Hello, I have a feature request. Could you please make this took available to anonymous IPs? We are allready having a hard time with all the bias against IPs. Thanks :) 143.176.62.228 (talk) 21:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No; create an account, make 10 edits and wait 4 days if you want to use Twinkle. — This, that and the other (talk) 00:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This would be difficult to make available for anonymous IPs, because without an account, there is no preferences panel. Logged-in, autoconfirmed users can easily turn Twinkle on and off, whereas we would have to make it either mandatory for IPs (not what most would want) or, as it is now, not there at all. So, can't help you...see This, that and the other's comment. Eman235/talk 00:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Editing without an account means anybody can run basic lookups on your IP address. Editing with an account actually increases your anonimity, so sign up today, and get Twinkle by Friday! ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  00:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]