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Infobox consolidation

Hey Andy,

I was researching Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation on how best to proceed with a consolidation process and saw that you wrote that essay, so thought I'd ask you for advice. While working on Template:Infobox television episode I noticed that any updates being made to this infobox over the years (at least a year of changes I noticed) weren't added to similar television episode infoboxes (Template:Infobox Futurama episode, Template:Infobox Rome episode, Template:Infobox The Goodies episode and Template:Infobox Simpsons episode), 3 of which are wrappers of it, and 1 is a complete separate infobox that has 90%+ of the same things. Changes range from missing, and needed, params, to fixes/changes to practices and additions of new features. It seems to me like there is really no point in maintaining 5 similar infoboxes with no really valid reason (what's more is that by the same logic to keep them, countless endless others can be added for any other TV series). Would really appreciate any assistance in this matter. Thank you. --Gonnym (talk) 16:55, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Please make those points at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 October 27#Template:Infobox The Goodies episode, to start with. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Commented there. If you're interested, my initial research on this subject is here. --Gonnym (talk) 19:37, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Goodies deleted. What is the next step? --Gonnym (talk) 15:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 November 4#Template:Infobox Rome episode. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:19, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Rome done. Are the other episode ones not suitable for merging? --Gonnym (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox settlement - Departments of Argentina

The deoartments in Chaco Province have their own template : Template:Infobox Chaco, while others use the base template directly, e.g. : Aguirre Department. 85.179.26.146 (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Indeed. The template's documentation points out "This template is a customized wrapper for {{Infobox settlement}}." But feel free to nominate it for deletion by substitution, if you wish. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:09, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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This Month in GLAM: October 2018

This Month in GLAM – Volume VIII, Issue X, October 2018 Headlines Belgium report: Erbstuecke edit-a-thon; Women in Tech edit-a-thon; Wiki Club Brussels; Wikidata workshop + party Brazil report: "There is no reason not to participate in a GLAM-Wiki initiative": an interview with the director of the Museum of Veterinary Anatomy Estonia report: Estonian art and geoscience collections finding their way to Commons Finland report: (RE)Photographic autumn France report: GLAMWiki 2018 Tel Aviv; City of Grenoble Germany report: GLAMorous Conferences Netherlands report: ‘More Gelders Heritage available via Wikimedia’ by Erfgoed Gelderland; Writing week Friesland; Wiki Techstorm Norway report: Wiki Loves Monuments and wikinobel Poland report: Heirlooms - locally and internationally Serbia report: The growing GLAM Sweden report: Roundtripping Project, Books Import and Wikidata Imported to SOCH Switzerland report: Built heritage conservation on Commons; les sans pagEs at a Modern art museum UK report: Wikidata in Oxford USA report: Wikiconference North America Culture Crawl WMF GLAM report: Documentation survey, Structured Data on Commons consultations, blog posts and conferences Calendar: November's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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Wikidata weekly summary #338

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Closed request for comments: Political alliance vs P4100, Changes to P2737 and P2738, Why do we have an item for dogs and another one for Canis lupus familiaris?, start time / end time vs. publication date of 1st / last episode, Mapping and improving the data import process, Familypedia links removed for "described at URL", Allow the creation of links to redirects in Wikidata

• Events
  • Past: Several Wikidata-related presentations at International Data Week from November 5-8 in Gaborone:
    • Wikidata and Wikibase as global platforms for democratizing data publishing
    • WikiCite and Scholia - a Linked Open Data approach to exploring the scholarly literature and related resources
    • A wiki approach to collecting, curating and managing citizen science data
    • A wiki perspective on an Open Science Commons
  • Past: Several Wikidata-related presentations at GLAMWiki conference, including:
    • Wikidata — what's new?
    • Open your structured GLAM data with Wikibase — install your own instance of the technology behind Wikidata
  • Incoming: a new Illuminatis Data Mining workshop on 16-17 November in Gotha
  • Incoming: Wikidata workshop in Vienna
  • Incoming: Wikidata train the trainers in Cologne, Berlin and Vienna (in German)

• Press, articles, blog posts
  • Incoming partnership with the German National Library by Jens Ohlig (in German)
  • How Wikidata Is Solving Its Chicken-or-Egg-Problem in the Field of Cultural Heritage, by Beat Eastermann

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • wikitable.info is a visualization of Wikidata items in HTML tables in many languages, easy to print and export. Feedback goes to Germartin1
  • OpenRefine 3.1 beta is out, with many fixes and improvements to the Wikidata integration suggested by the community.
  • There's a new Wikidata game: Commons category matches

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: location of sense usage, dramaturge, head coach of sports team, beer bitterness, beer color, INEP IGC discrete grade, clinical trial phase, maintained by WikiProject, uses capitalization for
    • External identifiers: NYC Building Identification Number (BIN), Cineuropa person ID, The Guardian article ID, Caselaw Access Project case ID, MGG Online ID, Map of Life ID, AfroMoths ID, FloraWeb ID, FLOW ID, AllPowerlifting.com person ID, Info Flora ID, YÖK Academic Profile ID, Mushroom Observer ID, Schleswig-Holstein object ID, Michigan Flora ID, Observation.org ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: Vice, sense associated with form, declared patrimony, season ends, inscription mentions, DanNet 2.2 word ID, Study fees, HASC, exchange rate, Verspreidingsatlas.nl ID
    • External identifiers: AllMusic release ID, DBU profile, MusicNotes product ID, MusicNotes song ID, Nobel Prize in Literature ID, Code de l'Autorité de l'Aviation Civile argentine, Playbill venue ID, Digital Flora of Central Africa ID, Portal to the Flora of Italy ID, Envanter.gov.tr Monument ID, B3Kat Joint Union Catalogue, Santiebeati ID, Soccerway team ID, identifiant Littera, Letterboxd actor ID, Letterboxd film ID, Threatened Species Link ID, VD 18 ID, Siamzone film ID, Thaifilm ID, National Portrait Gallery (United States) object ID, Newseum newspaper front page ID, Playbill person ID, SWH Release ID, APA ID, Virtual Guide to the Flora of Mongolia ID, identifiant À nos grands hommes, BioOne ID, Academy Awards Database film ID
  • Query examples:
    • Currently happening figure skating competitions (source)
    • Software developed by groups within Google (source)
    • Knowledge organization systems (source)
    • Most common election days by country (source)

• Development
  • Displaying Senses before Forms (phab:T208592)
  • Making quality constraints play nicer with the Query Service
  • Putting in the ground work to have quality checks run in jobs
  • Enabling arbritrary access on oldwikisource
  • Allowing configuration of the licence in .ttl output
  • Configuration of more string limits, such as URL and mono / multilingual texts
  • Moving wdqs frontend to a blubber deployment (phab:T192006)
  • Asserting a users name so they can't edit when accidently logged out (phab:T124451)
  • Showcase a termbox placeholder in the mobile frontend of m.wikidata.org (phab:T206200)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2018-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10. [1]

Problems

• You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed. [2][3][4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations. [5]

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19:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Peacemaker67 looks at the Sydney Wars Op-ed: TomStar81 on the end of World War I Timeline: This month in World War I

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Nomination of GrassBase for deletion

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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Pigsonthewing,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW

• Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.

If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.

We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.

With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)}18:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris

Hi Andy,

Ray Arritt obviously liked having his talk page set up the way it was; please undo your archiving of his talk page. It is likely to upset people who are still upset by his sudden death. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, please, or I would have to change links. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

People being unable to read (or edit) the talk page, or using up a significant/costly part of their mobile allowance, because it is over 400Kb will also upset them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

It has never been a problem before, in the 10 years he's been doing it this way. Other editors have similarly long talk pages. Please do not substitute your personal preference for his, and don't use the fact that others will not want to edit war on his page to force your preference onto the page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:48, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Personal preference? Force? Please AGF; and see Wikipedia:Article size#Technical issues. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:04, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

That page recommends sizes for articles. It does not specify a maximum size, nor does it address user talk pages. Anyway, there are hundreds of actual articles larger than that talk page. You are not addressing any of my other points: No one has complained before. He liked the page that way. It is disrespectful to change it the second he can no longer reply. His friends and family probably like it that way. If I revert your addition of an archive bot, are you going to revert back? I will not edit war on that page, so I need to know you won't revert again, before I restore the page to the way he liked it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I would like to see the page returned to a personal statement. (Please, please, please: when I die, no archiving that I haven't done, no "deceased" template. - I try to keep my talk as if it was the last version.) I restored some bits that are absolutely needed for context, and deleted two undated ones that make no sense without context. I'd still prefer to see the whole talk return to life, - support Floq. ----Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can vote on proposals in the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote until 30 November.
• There is an A/B test for sameAs data. This is to make it easier to find the right information with a search engine. This changes the metadata for a wiki page. It doesn't change how the page looks. [6]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia wikis use templates to show readers there are problems with the content on some pages. For example if there are no sources or the page needs to be rewritten. The mobile website will soon show more information when you use these templates. Some templates may need to be updated. [7]
• The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. The database tables used by the extension will be archived. This will happen in a month. If you want the information on your wiki you should move it to a normal wiki page. [8]

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23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, Pigsonthewing. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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