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Wikidata weekly summary #270

15:58, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Needs to be an easier way

I have been going through the slow process of entering sources on Wikidata, including some experiments with QuickStatements. Slow is fine for references I want to use with Cite Q. But there has to be an easier way of getting Wikidata material referenced enough to be considered reliable for use back here in en.wiki. Looking at the discussions at d:Wikidata:Project chat#Source without item and d:Wikidata:Property proposal/formal citation it seems there is strong opposition to having references be anything except complete items (with the exception of web pages for some reason). I have put together a proposal for a reference string at d:User:StarryGrandma/Sources#Property proposal. Please take a look and tell me what you think. Thanks. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:29, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@StarryGrandma: I can understand why you'd want such a property, but the point of Wikidata is to hold structured, machine-readable metadata, so I doubt such a proposal would succeed. As to "until we have a tool that will accept references formatted using the en.wiki citation templates to create sources as items in Wikidata", there is now a tool which can do that; see d:Wikidata:Zotero. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:17, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Andy. Any increase in referenced data in Wikidata is going to have to come from the en.wiki side. Wikipedia editors often don't know much about programming, software, or academic writing. We can't expect them to use external reference management software. After looking up the datatypes expected by Wikidata properties I have some nice Excel templates that let me paste references, authors, and publishers into QuickStatements. But even spreadsheets are too much to ask of most editors.
I've been reading a lot of Wikidata discussions and am still working out what a reference is considered to be over there. Also coming up with more questions about how to enter sources there to use back here, which I will ask you later. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Do you know what happened to linking new articles to where they were translated from? I used to go to the languages (left) and add. Result now "Error". But a day later it's usually linked "miraculously". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

It's now done through Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:35, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you teach me how, example Vera Nemirova? - Or just wait? - Other question: what do I have to do to make the worldcat entry for La Damoiselle élue appear in authority control? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Have a look at d:Help:Sitelinks (or d:Help:Sitelinks/de) and let me know if any of it is not clear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:51, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Very helpful link, thank you! Next questions: why was I not logged in? Is there a direct way from a Wikipedia article to the Wikidata entry. - I found her linked already. - Worldcat q? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Glad I could help. You should see a "Wikidata item" link, under "Tools" in the left-hand menu. The logged in issue is odd; I get it sometimes, too. There are a couple of causes, one being a bug in Firefox - is that what you use? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:13, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
I didn't see "Wikidata item", but that was a rather new page (2 days). How does a Wikidata item come into being? On an older one, I see it. - Yes, Firefox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:30, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Unless a Wikidata item already exists (perhaps because there was an article in another language), then either the person who creates a Wikipedia page also creates an item in Wikidata, or someone else sees that one is needed and does so. You should see a "Create a new item" link, on Wikidata, in the left hand column. You may also find the script described at d:User:Pigsonthewing/Setup#On_Wikipedia useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:41, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Not sure I understand exactly what the script does, though. I try to keep my "users" separate, intentionally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #271

21:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017).

Administrator changes

added AnarchyteGeneralizationsAreBadCullen328 (first RfA to reach WP:300)
removed CpromptRockpocketRambo's RevengeAnimumTexasAndroidChuck SMITHMikeLynchCrazytalesAd Orientem

Guideline and policy news

Technical news


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The Signpost: 5 August 2017

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Terence English

Hi Andy! Hope all is well with you - I just wanted to let you know that a new user has been working on improvements to TE's page in her sandbox, and is very nearly ready to make some significant additions to the page! She has some pictures to add too. She's still relatively new to this, and I'll be helping her as best I can: if you see changes & can support her learning & feeling part of the wiki community too, that would be brilliant! Zeromonk (talk) 08:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@Zeromonk: Sounds good, thank you. I'm well, hope you are too. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Thankyou for helping out. I'd like to make a perfect page. Adding some pics in moment and will edit. please check my sandbox again later. I've also submitted a page on the history of medicine society. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Whispyhistory: Good work! I've published the HMS article and fixed a few style issues (we don't embolden headings; lists should not include blank lines; "thumb" images don't need specific sizes to be specified). Please drop a note here if ever you have anything else awaiting review. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:48, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Thank you for your help and much more needed if possible. Please advise me on what else to do on TE page and history society page.Whispyhistory (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: How do I make this page live?Whispyhistory (talk) 22:31, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Whispyhistory: Edit your version in "source code" mode and copy all of the wiki markup. Edit the existing article, in source mode, delete all the contents, then paste your version (you may prefer to have one tab open for each version). Preview and cleanup as required; then save (or save first and cleanup in visual editor mode if that's your preference). But first, please check recent edits to the existing article such as the image in the infobox, and add to your version. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:52, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Thank you, I will check your additions and paste in parts. There is a better picture but waiting for consent.Whispyhistory (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Whispyhistory: Also, if you're in touch with the subject, please consider Wikipedia:Voice intro project. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: I have a voice recording but don't know what to do with it, help, thanks. I've pasted across now. Please check over. I'm sure many messages on way to me. Not sure if I'm getting hang of this.Whispyhistory (talk) 11:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #272

21:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Verify you've met me?

Hi, I enjoyed talking with you over lunch today before the Librarians meetup. Maybe you could verify you've met me at "People you have met in person" tool :) Dan Scott (talk) 18:48, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017

Wikimania report

Interviewed by Facto Post at the hackathon, Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata said that the most significant recent development is that Wikidata now accounts for one third of Wikimedia edits. And the essential growth of human editing.

Internet-In-A-Box

Impressive development work on Internet-in-a-Box featured in the WikiMedFoundation annual conference on Thursday. Hardware is Raspberry Pi, running Linux and the Kiwix browser. It can operate as a wifi hotspot and support a local intranet in parts of the world lacking phone signal. The medical use case is for those delivering care, who have smartphones but have to function in clinics in just such areas with few reference resources. Wikipedia medical content can be served to their phones, and power supplied by standard lithium battery packages.

Yesterday Katherine Maher unveiled the draft Wikimedia 2030 strategy, featuring a picturesque metaphor, "roads, bridges and villages". Here "bridges" could do with illustration. Perhaps it stands for engineering round or over the obstacles to progress down the obvious highways. Internet-in-a-Box would then do fine as an example.

"Bridging the gap" explains a take on that same metaphor, with its human component. If you are at Wikimania, come talk to WikiFactMine at its stall in the Community Village, just by the 3D-printed display for Bassel Khartabil; come hear T Arrow talk at 3 pm today in Drummond West, Level 3.

  • Plaudit for the Medical Wikipedia app, content that is loaded into Internet-In-A-Box with other material, such as per-country documentation.
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History of Medicine Society

Hi, thank you for all help so far. Please help me with all the messages I'm getting. I've altered as suggestions. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:03, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: Which messages? Also, I'm travelling tomorrow, than at Wikimania for a week, so may be slow to respond. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: It's ok. zeromonks has helped out. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:18, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Dear Andy, Please advise how to make this page better. I put some DYK hooks down....not sure if done correctly/appropriately.Whispyhistory (talk) 11:25, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #273

23:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Montreal Clock Tower

If you look at Category:Pages using infobox monument with unknown parameters you will see that this article has reappeared as an error. In due course I will repair that error. I am not saying the audio bit is wrong - it is just in the wrong place. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

It's in the right place, as can be seen in the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I fixed the template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC)