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The repository linking to Go Ethereum in the infobox isn't quite right.

Go-Ethereum is an implementation, client, or engine of the Ethereum Virtual Machine. The URL for the repository would be better as "www.github.com/ethereum". However this is compounded by the repository URL apparently being taken from the reference to the Go Ethereum repository for the license, being the only place that the reference occurs. Furthermore there are more licenses than GPLv3, LGPLv, others have been used such as MIT in many repos, Apache 2.0,^[1] CC BY-SA 4.0,^[2] MPL-2.0^[3].(unsigned Talk page comment added by User:Jamesray1 on 2018-01-11T05:33:35)

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^ https://github.com/ethereum/dopple. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ https://github.com/ethereum/yellowpaper/blob/master/LICENCE.md. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ https://github.com/ethereumjs/ethereumjs-vm/blob/master/LICENSE. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Reference for Etymology

Hi, I'm Alex from campaign consulting firm Kivvit. One of my clients, Parity Technologies, has asked me to work with Wikipedia's dedicated volunteer editors to update this page. The first thing that struck me is Etymology has no citation. "The Prophets of Cryptocurrency Survey the Boom and Bust" (The New Yorker, October 22, 2018) verifies this section. The only part of the quote not included in The New Yorker article is "I immediately realized that I liked it better than all of the other alternatives that I had seen".

The New Yorker includes this quote about the origin of the name Ethereum: "'I was browsing a list of elements from science fiction on Wikipedia when I came across the name,' he said then. 'I suppose it was the fact that [it] sounded nice and it had the word 'ether,' referring to the hypothetical invisible medium that permeates the universe and allows light to travel.'"^[1]

To comply with Wikipedia's policy on verifiability, this should cite a reference. Do editors find The New Yorker article an appropriate source for verification? Because I'm here for Parity Technologies through Kivvit and have a financial conflict of interest, I'll keep my activity on talk pages rather than directly edit the article. AlexLewis13 (talk) 22:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Paumgarten, Nick (October 22, 2018). "The Prophets of Cryptocurrency Survey the Boom and Bust". The New Yorker. Retrieved February 4, 2019.

Hi, circling back here to see if there are any editors willing to take a look at this request. I noted that User:N2e and User:Jtbobwaysf are among the top editors on the page by text. Would either of you be interested in assisting me to improve the article's sourcing? Thanks! AlexLewis13 (talk) 19:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alex, these crypto articles have had a lot of sources stripped out, as we removed most of the cryptorag sources, where most of this content comes from. I think you are referring to the quote where Vitalik says he got the idea for Ethereum. Is that correct? Could you also explain more clearly what your asking, as I read your note a couple of time and I still dont understand... Please feel free to ping me again when you respond, as I dont always monitor this page Jtbobwaysf (talk) 06:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History updates

Hi, I'm Alex, from campaign consulting firm Kivvit, here on behalf of Parity Technologies. Since I have a financial conflict of interest, I am posting on discussion pages rather than making direct edits.

This sentence in History is unsourced: "At the time of public announcement in January 2014, the core Ethereum team was Vitalik Buterin, Mihai Alisie, Anthony Di Iorio, and Charles Hoskinson." Based on reliable sources, I put together material to replace that sentence, adding several sources and identifying others also credited with helping found Ethereum (including Gavin Wood, who co-founded my client, Parity Technologies).

Ethereum was officially announced in 2014.^[1] Its founders include Vitalik Buterin, Mihai Alisie, Anthony Di Iorio, Charles Hoskinson, Gavin Wood (who wrote the Ethereum Yellow Paper and served as Ethereum's first chief technology officer),^[2]^[3] Joseph Lubin, and Jeffrey Wilcke.^[1]^[4]^[5]

References

^ ^a ^b "Who Created Ethereum?". Bitcoin Magazine. Retrieved March 6, 2019.
^ Dannen, Chris (16 March 2017). Introducing Ethereum and Solidity: Foundations of Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Programming for Beginners. Apress. p. 30. Retrieved 12 November 2018.
^ Rizzo, Pete (24 July 2016). "Ethereum Hard Fork Creates Competing Currencies". CoinDesk. Retrieved 14 November 2018.
^ Paumgarten, Nick (October 22, 2018). "The Prophets of Cryptocurrency Survey the Boom and Bust". The New Yorker. Retrieved February 4, 2019.
^ Brownell, Claire (June 27, 2017). "Vitalik Buterin: The cryptocurrency prophet". Financial Post. Retrieved March 6, 2019.

Are there any editors willing to include this update in the History section? Thanks! AlexLewis13 (talk) 19:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find a better source for your 2014 announcement? If not I'm sure it could easily be dug up. The Bitcoin Magazine does not have strong consensus on being a reliable source here. Dr-Bracket (talk) 21:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AlexLewis13: Thanks, these are excellent references and should certainly be integrated into the article. The Bitcoin Magazine article says "Ethereum was officially announced on the Bitcointalk forum in 2014. In addition to Buterin, Ethereum was co-founded by Mihai Alisie, Anthony Di Iorio and Charles Hoskinson. Buterin also announced that he was working with developer Dr. Gavin Wood and Joseph Lubin" - talking of Wood and Lubin as "working with" rather than cofounders - since that magazine was created by Buterin & Alisie, shouldn't it be considered definitive? Or is there another source that could better be described as definitive? I agree that the Yellow Paper should be included in the History section, but I think not in the list of founders. — Charles Stewart (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

From Reddit Anthony Di Iorio (https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5clffg/why_did_gavin_leave_the_ethereum_team/d9xpjiv/): "There was no "co-creator" of Ethereum. Ethereum was founded by Vitalik Buterin, Myself, Charles Hoskinson, Mihai Alisie, & Amir Chetrit (the initial 5) in December 2013. Joseph Lubin, Gavin Wood, & Jeffrey Wilke were added in early 2014 as founders. Of the eight, only Vitalik and Jeffrey remain part of Ethereum proper." — Charles Stewart (talk) 21:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is why we need reputable sources. We shouldn't have to compare sources that have no talk in WP:RSN to Reddit comments when determining what to write in the History section. Dr-Bracket (talk) 23:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I treat Bitcoin Magazine as a WP:RS because its editorial policy - as described on https://bitcoinmagazine.com/about/ - seems sound, with a proper editorial staff and anti-bias measures. Reddit comments certainly aren't RSs by WP standards, but in this case I would guess the Reddit comment is more accurate. Shame we can't use it in the article. — Charles Stewart (talk) 01:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can we use Bitcoin Magazine as a reliable source?

@Dr-Bracket: The question of whether the magazine was a WP:RS was raised at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Magazine and several there said it was reliable while there were no serious concerns that as of 2017 it wasn't.

The key concerns I see with using a trade magazine as a reliable source are (i) that the editorial policy is opaque, and (ii) that the articles have a high risk of suffering conflicts of interest, such as being PR, serving the interest of the publisher, or authors being influenced by 3rd party payments. The editorial policies described on https://bitcoinmagazine.com/about/ give what I regard as credible arguments against all these concerns. Am I missing something? I'll point to this discussion on Talk:Bitcoin Magazine. — Charles Stewart (talk) 08:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://github.com/ethereum/dopple. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[2] ttps://github.com/ethereum/yellowpaper/blob/master/LICENCE.md. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[3] ttps://github.com/ethereumjs/ethereumjs-vm/blob/master/LICENSE. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[Paumgarten-4] Paumgarten, Nick (October 22, 2018). "The Prophets of Cryptocurrency Survey the Boom and Bust". The New Yorker. Retrieved February 4, 2019.

[WhoCreated-5] "Who Created Ethereum?". Bitcoin Magazine. Retrieved March 6, 2019.

[Dannen-6] Dannen, Chris (16 March 2017). Introducing Ethereum and Solidity: Foundations of Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Programming for Beginners. Apress. p. 30. Retrieved 12 November 2018.

[Rizzo-7] Rizzo, Pete (24 July 2016). "Ethereum Hard Fork Creates Competing Currencies". CoinDesk. Retrieved 14 November 2018.

[Paumgarten-8] Paumgarten, Nick (October 22, 2018). "The Prophets of Cryptocurrency Survey the Boom and Bust". The New Yorker. Retrieved February 4, 2019.

[Brownell-9] Brownell, Claire (June 27, 2017). "Vitalik Buterin: The cryptocurrency prophet". Financial Post. Retrieved March 6, 2019.

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 ::::I treat Bitcoin Magazine as a [[WP:RS]] because its editorial policy - as described on https://bitcoinmagazine.com/about/ - seems sound, with a proper editorial staff and anti-bias measures.  Reddit comments certainly aren't RSs by WP standards, but in this case I would guess the Reddit comment is more accurate.  Shame we can't use it in the article. &mdash; [[User:Chalst|''Charles Stewart'']] <small>[[User_talk:Chalst|(talk)]]</small> 01:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
+===Can we use [[Bitcoin Magazine]] as a reliable source?===
+{{reply to|Dr-Bracket}} The question of whether the magazine was a [[WP:RS]] was raised at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Magazine and several there said it was reliable while there were no serious concerns that as of 2017 it wasn't.
+The key concerns I see with using a trade magazine as a reliable source are (i) that the editorial policy is opaque, and (ii) that the articles have a high risk of suffering conflicts of interest, such as being PR, serving the interest of the publisher, or authors being influenced by 3rd party payments.  The editorial policies described on https://bitcoinmagazine.com/about/ give what I regard as credible arguments against all these concerns.  Am I missing something? I'll point to this discussion on [[Talk:Bitcoin Magazine]]. &mdash; [[User:Chalst|''Charles Stewart'']] <small>[[User_talk:Chalst|(talk)]]</small> 08:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)