User talk:Begoon

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Ha

why? That thread was pretty inoffensive and highly amusing....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I know, but after linking it I noticed it was in a "members only" subforum, and it was off-topic really, on an RfA. It's stuck in my mind and always makes me smile, and perhaps I shouldn't have removed it, on reflection, but you'd be (un)surprised by the number of people who will have seen and enjoyed it anyway, just from watchlists etc. -- Begoon 13:04, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I'd forgotten about it, and it made me chuckle reading it again...I was trying to find a youtube clip where Marcel Wave (Kenny Everett) strips and reveals Kenny, saying "Yes!! It was me ll the time!!!"...but alas I couldn't find it...so that joke fell flat (but still enjoyed watching some old Kenny Everett filmclips) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:37, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Cas, I remember that, and I can't find it either. Just some unrelated shit with David Essex. Has it really been over 20 years? Ouch. God rest him. - Begoon 03:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Or...."Is Elton John his real name?"....(other guy) "Is Elton John whose real name? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Cas, I only just glanced at this again, and I finally noticed you used 3 different sigs in 3 posts. Unobservant, moi? Well played. (I think...) - Begoon 10:59, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Purely accidental. Second one was a typo, I have no idea how. Third one was just one extra set of italics. All three were originally signed with the 4 tildes....so not clever at all :P Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Damn. Never mind. At least it was all done in the best possible taste... (crosses legs..). -- Begoon 12:24, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

• linky thing...

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For this reference to one of my favourite films - tragically, you can't thank revision deleted diffs. (So, did you turn pro with that belly button trick, Ned?) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:45, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Ritchie. True story: A few years ago I was re-watching the film on a satellite channel when my wife came home. "Jeez," she said, "is that movie on again? I don't understand how you can keep watching it over and over." To her credit, when I collapsed in a helpless heap of laughter she did realise why. Anyway, a side effect of all this has been that I now have "I Got You Babe" stuck in my head... -- Begoon 00:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Raven?

I haven't listened to the song, and I'm not about to, but given that raven on your user page... Drmies (talk) 14:50, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

It's a random "Picture of the day" between 2009 and now, so everyone gets a different image. I never saw the raven you got. The video is 4 minutes - I managed one. -- Begoon 00:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh, really? Ha, that's cool. As for the video, I managed 15 seconds, that's all. BTW I'm seeing a lot of Doug Jones signs, so it may well be that Moore gets a real run for his money. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

...6 weeks later...

I doff my cap to your powers of prediction. I hope you troubled the bookies with that one. I also hope your shoulder recovers quickly and fully. Take care (and Bourbon). -- Begoon 08:58, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks--but I had Moore by five points. Alabama surprised many of us; it was redeemed, yet again, by the African-American vote, and especially that of black women. Some of us should start to show our appreciation, maybe. Later! Drmies (talk) 05:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I would probably revert that last pic...

• 
  Judge Dredd
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  Red cat

...While I am in favour of fucking da category police (in the non-sexual way) I am generally not in favour of singling out specific editors for visual mockery. There is a line where humour crosses over into meanness. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

You're probably right. I have nothing against either Mike or the Judge. Done. -- Begoon 09:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

OK, but i love Mike, inna kinda manly way. -Roxy the dog. bark 10:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Heh. The real shame is that those {{Multiple image}} templates are a pain to set up and align... -- Begoon 10:08, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for listening, humourous as it may be, it does fall on the wrong side of the line. Fortunately its closed now, I had my own derailing set for later anyway if it stayed open. But I expect the issue will crop up again. (especially since I just reverted the changes to my own userpage) Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:57, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm not actually sure it is fortunate that it's closed. I have a bit of a history here, with Gerda particularly, and if it's pissing off people like you and her then maybe it does need to be brought to a head sooner rather than later? (see [1]) -- Begoon 12:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't piss me off as such. I don't care enough about the internal gnome bickering over wanted:categories. I don't care enough about people messing with my userpage to do more than hit undo. Granted if people start edit-warring on my userpage about it, they will get a very different and unpleasant (for them) response. Did you have that police dog pic to hand btw, or was it a lucky google? Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

No, I did a Commons search. -- Begoon 14:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I found two things: a way of having red cats that has been tolerated by the cats police watchful eyes (my user page, section boxes, and even yours Begoon, sort of), and a great way to make stunning galleries of images nicely aligned, seen on Monterey Bay Aquarium. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I know about "gallery mode=packed heights=..." - it's cool, but didn't really do what I wanted here, because I wanted the thumbnail style. I also have a template - User:Begoon/RCbox - which was inspired by you, years ago. I hardly ever use it, but it seems it can also contain a red cat... (well, orange really, but that works here too...) This:[2] was an awesome edit. Thank you. -- Begoon 00:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Wipro logo

bsd. Hi, I hadn't noticed that the gradient is actually an embedded raster, sorry about that. I extracted it from company material, so it should be accurate though. In keeping with quality edits, although it's probably not needed, the file is under a PD-USonly license, which doesn't fall under CSD#F5. --Ben Stone 18:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Benstown - oops, my error with the F5, I've undone that. If you "extracted it from company material", you should link that material as a source. What concerned me is that the colours are inconsistent with the logo on the company website (orange dots rather than yellow, etc), although now I dig deeper I see they offer 2 versions: https://www.wipro.com/brand/, a "website" version and a "print" version. Presumably you used the latter. I'm glad I went there, though, because "corporate-bullshit-speak" is a source of constant amusement to me, and "Building on the universal form of the circle, the radiating rings of dots around our Wipro name suggest all the many connections that our brand creates for our customers. Together, they convey a sense of outward motion, propelling us into the future that we define together. The colors of our brandmark also speak to our character – highlighting our reliability and authority.", "The multi-colored dots convey a dynamic energy and optimism. With the simple strength of the Wipro wordmark and the evocative interplay of form and color, the elements of our logo unite to suggest the new world of connections that Wipro champions." are awesome examples. -- Begoon 03:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

LOL, I skipped the BS page, so i missed this incredible gem. I don't envy whomever's job it is to come up with this pile of nonsense. Imagine doing that for a living. BTW, i went back to check the vector, and they actually overlaid those yellow dots on top of the gradient, i guess somebody started creating a vector and just gave up. --Ben Stone 03:55, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Batman

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  Luckily, we're in tip-top condition

Since you thanked me for this edit, you probably noticed my edit summary. That's good. I did mean it as a salute to your own comment. :-) [Bishonen and all her socks shake hands with Batman, Robin, and Begoon.] Bishonen | talk 22:05, 1 January 2018 (UTC).

"Who knows," Bish? "This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single service ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuously, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." [3]. -- Begoon 22:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The SVG Barnstar
		Thanks for all the work that you did at File:Lucas number spiral.svg; the image looks much better now. I know that creating and uploading 9 different versions must have been tedious, not to mention all of your hard work for the bitmap equivalent's page, but, at least in my opinion, it was worth it, as all of the problems are now fixed. I hope that you feel the same way. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 16:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem. 9 versions looks like a lot of uploads, but they are mostly small, 2-minute, incremental changes. Svg lends itself to that kind of incremental improvement far better than other formats for illustrations like that, and the results are usually superior, and scaleable. -- Begoon 16:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Hi Begoon. Thank you so much for all your work on File:William Foster Nye.jpg. Yesterday I went back to the article to make a few copyedits and thought "Hmmmm. That portrait looks a lot better than it did before." I clicked on the image and saw your painstaking restoration—not to mention your addition of the signature. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. There was also a higher resolution JP2 version of the advertisement image at the archive.org source (in a 700 Mb download of all the raw scans from that book), so I've downloaded and extracted that, cleaned up the creases, blemishes etc, and replaced the smaller version. I also created a greyscaled version, at File:Nye Oils advertisement, 1894 (greyscaled).jpg, which I think I personally prefer, since it seems "cleaner" and I feel the images look better. I haven't replaced the article image with the greyscaled version because I think you should make the decision whether or not to do that. On the one hand, I feel it's justified, because all it does is remove the colour of the paper on which the advert just happened to be printed in the book that happened to be scanned - on the other hand it is that colour in the original scan... So, you can use whichever version you prefer. Or, just let me know if there's anything you'd like altering about either version (for instance, the greyscale version could very easily be made a bit "whiter", but it does tend to get a bit "glaring" if you go too far). Cheers. -- Begoon 07:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Brilliant! I've now substituted your grey-scale version in the article. I agree about not making it "whiter"—it would be a bit glaring. It's funny. I wrote the article when I saw all the brouhaha at ANI. But as often happens, that led me down more paths and resulted in the cemetery where Nye is buried, and William H. Whitfield, a very interesting chap who's also buried there. I'm about to start yet another article on the wacky Spiritualist retreat, of which Nye was a prominent supporter. Feel free to stalk any or all of these if you think the images could be improved. Once again, thank you for all your help, Voceditenore (talk) 10:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Wow! My every wish was your command. You fixed Captain Whitfield and Mr. Nakahama too! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For your wonderful photograph restorations, above and beyond the call of duty! Voceditenore (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Moons of Saturn 2007

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  Moons of Saturn 2007.jpg

An OTRS customer noticed that File:Moons of Saturn 2007.jpg has some text cropping for Enceladus, likely due to the image for Dione. I'm not sure how the original text should read, so I thought I'd let you know about the issue. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 5 March 2018 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

Heh - I thought you'd be right, but it wasn't lost when I replaced Dione - it was never there on any version we had - initial upload.

• I could fix froz? -> frozen., but I don't know, and can't reliably guess what geologica??? should be. Possibly "geological past.", but that's a guess (and now I think more, maybe froz? -> frozen in the past.)
• There doesn't seem to be anything else missing, but without an original you see my dilemma...
• (I can even see that there could be words between cause...faults, "some of the" or "the largest" or "the squidgiest" etc... if you get my drift...)

But I'll sleep on it - I'm thinking a best, sensible, educated guess would be better than leaving it, and chances are I'll do something to it tomorrow. -- Begoon 18:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I uploaded a new version, using the original NASA text I eventually found at: [4] and [5].

• It was "geologically recent past.", "frozen eons ago." and "cause the sides of the faults," so my guesses were close (except the last), but no cigar...

There are a few things about this image I would improve, given access to the original sources, as I remarked over 6 years ago when I did the original replacement of Dione with the correct image, as requested at the Graphics Lab. It's such a nice image in general, though, that unless those sources do become available I don't want to "hack" at it and potentially degrade what we have. -- Begoon 04:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It looks like the last upload reverted to the old version? Or is it just a cache thing and it's not showing yet. Primefac (talk) 13:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

I see the latest version, with the additions described above (there were 2 intermediate "guess" versions before I found the NASA text). Latest version = 4.5 Mb, which is bigger than all previous. Must be your cache (or a cache)... -- Begoon 13:52, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Yup. Just me. Thanks for updating it! Primefac (talk) 13:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Image guidance for Internet Archive scans

Hi, I saw you did a retouch of my John Leamy uploads on Commons—thanks for that. Since I'm sure it'll come up again, is there a best procedure when uploading images taken from Internet Archive book scans? What I've been doing so far is downloading the torrent with JPEG2000 scans, converting it to PNG using ImageMagick, setting it grayscale and cropping with GIMP, and then perhaps exporting to JPG depending on the kind of image it is. You mentioned thumbnails of PNGs are more blurry; how does that work? Kim Post (talk) 01:13, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

You're doing that correctly. Some people don't bother to download the scan archive (or know that they can)[6] - that you do so is good. The retouch on the 'mansion' lithograph was just a black level boost to bring out the detail. The mediawiki 'blurry' png thumbnail issue is annoying, and longstanding. Png is a lossless format, unlike jpg which degrades when edited, so keeping lossless png 'masters' but using a jpg copy for thumbnailing is a workaround. Mediawiki sharpens jpg thumbnails, but not png, often resulting in annoyingly, noticeably 'blurry' png thumbnails by comparison. See [7] and phabricator:T192744 for more on this issue of 'blurry' png thumbnailing by mediawiki. -- Begoon 01:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Logo Format

I understand that the preferred format for images is SVG or PNG and I have been looking to update jpg logos where possible. However, the only way I seem to be able to do this is to upload a new file (as a version update can only be performed using the same file format). This results in an orphaned image with no links to it (and ultimately automatic removal). Is there a better way for me to do this? Greenguytroy (talk) 09:02, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

No, there really isn't. Unless the content is 'photographic' then png is indeed often better, with svg better still, provided it's a proper, faithful vector svg, ideally from the owner or their website/documents. But if you're replacing one format with another then yes, one file will need deletion. I wouldn't worry about it too much though - the end result is a better image in the article, nobody minds doing the deletions because the folks doing them understand why, and no 'server space' is 'wasted' because separate images and different versions of the same image are all the same thing in that respect - they are never really deleted, just removed from general view; they are kept for history audit purposes and so that they can be restored if necessary.

Always keep in mind, though, that the most important consideration is appearance of the image in the article, not 'format for the sake of format', so you'd never, for instance, replace a high quality, faithful jpg with an inferior quality png version just because it's png. -- Begoon 10:45, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Greetings.

Thank you for your respect and warning, from now I try to correct my behavior.--Z1381 (talk) 11:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok, but really, you do need to pay attention to what other experienced editors are telling you. The behaviour on Commons that got you blocked there was just really very silly, and I wouldn't like to see the same thing happen to you here. -- Begoon 12:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank You

THANK YOU @Begoon Sir, for your Valuable time for wasting on me to correct myself a. I try to Upload as much as possible original Quality .svg file as like you. I begging you Sir, Please Don't ignore me, as much as possible revert my mistakes on Wikipedia. Last December I forget to reply your your chat due to My semester exam. Sir, Please help me to make mayself correct on wikipedia. Thanks Regards. ---Kulbhushan Jhadav (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I've corrected another 10 of your svg uploads, and marked 3 for deletion, but I can't keep following you around and cleaning up your mess if you just ignore all the advice you are given. Why didn't you answer my question about the Santanu99 account? It seems fairly obvious to me that you did previously edit using that account, and honesty about that may count in your favour. Should I just have that investigated, quite possibly resulting in you being blocked, or, per:- "Sir, Please help me to make mayself correct on wikipedia. Thanks Regards.", do you now want to "come clean" about this? -- Begoon 12:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Begoon Sir, I don't want to lose my current Id. I've have learned pretty hard lesson through that id using slang words against Senior Admins, I changed my behaviour but I can't recover my old id.Now its Upto you.As Judgement you may block this id also. One Request from me, Sir please don't block My IP address. Thanks --Kulbhushan Jhadav (talk) 13:20, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Why are you making this so difficult? Just give a single word answer: "Yes" or "No". Did you previously edit using the Santanu99 account? -- Begoon 13:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes. --Kulbhushan Jhadav (talk) 13:33, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for that, well I can't promise what anyone else will do, but I won't personally seek to have you blocked right now, although you really do deserve it, because I believe you probably do have good intentions. However, do always pay very close attention to the advice you've been given, and follow it - don't upload crap svg files, and use the proper, example non-free use templates which you've been shown - every time, without fail - and never abuse people,as you did with the Santanu99 account, or I could very easily change my mind. -- Begoon 14:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)-- Begoon 14:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Your script

• User:Begoon/addUploadsLink

I tried installing your user uploads script on my meta page, only to find out that it's a hardcoded link to the English Wikipedia. It'd be pretty sweet if you could make it global instead :) ~★ nmaia ^d 08:40, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

NMaia - try it now, I think it should work. I had to also exclude commons where the link would be redundant, and change (delay until page fully loaded) the loading method because meta, at least, was running the script before the toolbox links were fully loaded. Let me know if you have any issues. -- Begoon 10:06, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

So fast! Thanks! I'll be sure to report if anything strange happens. ~★ nmaia ^d 10:13, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

What is particularly nice is that, for instance, at fr.wiki, even though my script links to Special:ListFiles (in English), Mediawiki goes to the right place Spécial:Liste_des_fichiers automatically. I initially thought the different language Special Page names might be a show-stopper, but no, it just works. -- Begoon 10:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh by the way, it just occurred to me that you can probably fetch the internationalized strings Commons is using to add to your script, to have instant universal internationalization. ~★ nmaia ^d 11:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I might look at that when I have a bit more time, and see how easy it would be. -- Begoon 11:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Shame I can't email you, but

I was thinking of blocking a certain editor for hate speech. Have I missed something and shouldn't? Doug Weller talk 14:43, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

If you mean the author of this and this then I wouldn't really discourage at least a very stern 'final warning' and I wouldn't argue with a block either. A warning does seem unlikely to have much effect though, sadly, since the user appears to have been popping in and out with their idiosyncratic nonsense for about 10 years and no amount of explaining what wikipedia is for seems to have got through to date. The previous stuff hasn't generally seemed quite so xenophobic as the current chain of diatribes, though. If, instead, you meant the author of what you removed here, I think you already blocked them in April, for 3 months. [8] -- Begoon 15:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

The former. I'll continue to think about it. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

And that talk subpage.[9] CSD as an attack page or take to XFD? Doug Weller talk 15:12, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

And its 'parent'. I'm torn - maybe we should ask them what it is intended to achieve? The answer could be... illuminating... (but almost certainly very long) -- Begoon 15:18, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I think he has. on the talk page:" Please show me a solution. In hosting the Dangerous verses on Wikipedia. Europe and the US need to be protected from the Muslims. These parasites have already destroyed Undivided India that ranged from the Borders of Iran to Indonesia and onwards. They are already causing problems in Europe and the US.

These are inputs for you to watch youtube videos, like The Social Contract website, Youtube, such as, The Islamic Doctrine of Migration, and myriads of others. Just search Youtube with the string "islamist sharia jihad Europe USA". You will come to know yourself. I am not trying to make you aware of the dangers! I am eager to make all readers of wikipedia aware! No born Muslim can be a Muslim who doesn't obey the Dictats of Koran! :-) :-D . Islam is a Political Ideology, not a religion!" Doug Weller talk 16:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Look, I'd just delete it and block for a month or two - there's nothing really ambiguous - but that's me, and I'm very intolerant of this kind of hateful crap, and quite impetuous in how I'd deal with it, so perhaps that's too unilateral. Probably best to xfD, I suppose, reluctantly... -- Begoon 16:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Indeffed by Drmies. I think that's warranted. I'd accept an unblock with a permanent topic ban. Doug Weller talk 16:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Thanks to Drmies for taking that action. -- Begoon 16:53, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Happy to be of service. I gladly block racists. Misogynists. Sexists. Homophobes. Islamophobes. Antisemites. In fact, I forgo my usual $5 for such blocks. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh you all need to decide whether that user page needs to be deleted. It's gross enough to delete but I'm going to drink coffee and play with the kids. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Well I'll CSD it, and see if anyone rejects that because it's not 'purely' an attack page or for failure to cross an i or dot a t... -- Begoon 17:08, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

...and, I should be less cynical... deleted within moments by The Blade of the Northern Lights - ty Blade. -- Begoon 17:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

No worries. This isn't a forum for ranting about various religious beliefs or their practitioners, clearly not aimed at improving Wikipedia. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again - you might want to get the talk page too, which is now just a sad, lonely mini-rant without its parent... -- Begoon 17:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

All set. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:57, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

IEEE Education Logo File

Thank you for your help! Steveewatkins (talk) 03:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Correctly license tagging non-free images can be a bit daunting for new editors. It's always a good thing to ask for help if you're unsure, because it prevents problems later. Thank you. -- Begoon 03:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank You

The Guidance Barnstar

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thanks for your Assistance. Stalin Sunny Talk2Me 06:22, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Thank you for thanking me with such a nice 'trinket'... -- Begoon 06:31, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

History sections

Hi Begoon, if you think adding the word "history" improves the Golf article, that's fine. Just so you know, it was added by a block-evading user who has obsessively added unnecessary blank or unsourced "history" sections into about a thousand articles over the past year or two, as well as re-wording and refactoring many section names to include the word "history". Some have been from that now-indef-blocked JohnLickor372 account, which was itself not blocked at the time, but there's very strong evidence that they were evading previous blocks of IP numbers. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010#Countless empty "History" sections, plus copyright violations, etc..

There's a bit of a more intense blocking and clean-up operation going on at the moment, so you might see some more similar reverts. The number of times their edits have been actually helpful is very low. I've mostly been undoing them for that reason, and to try to discourage them from continuing to evade blocks and edit, as described in WP:BMB. Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 18:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I've seen that exact disruption before - it can be very annoying. If you want to remove it again, be my guest - just beware "cutting off the nose to spite the face" is all I'd advise. Thanks for the note. -- Begoon 18:26, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

No, it's fine really, and thanks for the advice. I've left a few of their changes when they seemed to be clear improvements, though again that's not so often. The golf article looked like kind of a coin toss, and in that case I've usually gone with how the original author wrote it. Since there are literally thousands of edits to check, it's good that there are other editors like you to double-check. In case you or anyone you know has some extra time, a few of us are coordinating the efforts at User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#Block evading and User:IamNotU/History cleanup. Thanks again... --IamNotU (talk) 01:44, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

A star

		The Special Barnstar
		For teaching the way! Lubbad85 (☎) 03:31, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:IFIHAVETOPULLTHISCAROVERYOULLBOTHBESORRY

• linky thing for the archive, cos I hate it when I can't find these things later...

You should create that, or find a place where it can be redirected.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 14:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Heh. It only sprang to mind because I actually had a couple of car trips recently where the poking, whining and squabbling coming from the back seat sounded very much like that "discussion". -- Begoon 14:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

• Note to any passers by who might be confused about 'Queens' being named by and after people: this concerns Queen Elizabeth 2 (ocean liner)

I yield to your more superior knowledge of grammar! ;-)

I didn't quite understand your second point, did you keep the edit or it reads just fine as it was originally? Satyris410 (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

The second edit was when I realised that, as well as "was" being singular, "time" and "naming" seemed, to me, better as singular too. I'm certain about "was" but I'm still not absolutely certain it shouldn't be "times of the namings". It's a tricky little sentence but I think/hope the grammar is correct now, although I actually would have preferred to reword it to avoid the complexity/ambiguity altogether, but I couldn't quickly come up with anything that wasn't even more convoluted. To see the overall difference between how it was "originally" and how I left it, look here: [10]. To see just what I changed from your edit, look here: [11]. Thanks. -- Begoon 01:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Actually - how does

Queen Mary, in 1934, and Queen Elizabeth, in 1938, were both named by and after for contemporary spouses of reigning monarchs: Mary of Teck and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, respectively.

sound to you? -- Begoon 09:54, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds perfect. When you said about rewording it, I thought that a complete rewrite might sort things out in the easiest fashion.

Hmm, named after or named for? Satyris410 (talk) 20:18, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Named for - I did think that at one point, but then forgot - I'll change it. -- Begoon 20:22, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Images

The images are live. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_electronic_cigarette_aerosol#Formaldehyde It took years of effort to create that article. QuackGuru (talk) 04:58, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Very nice indeed. Good work. Reluctant though I am to say this - I wonder if I now prefer the white background for the two 'formaldehyde' 'pen' images, even after all the trial and error... It looks fine as it is, though - just thinking out loud... -- Begoon 05:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Another image with a white background worked for the main e-cig page. I have made about 10,000 edits to one topic area. Most of the articles have the same writing style. My writing style. I got one subpage to fix then I am done. As usually, others don't want me to fix the problems. QuackGuru (talk) 05:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

So when I see you still editing/creating e-cig articles in 12 months time I should remind you that you said you were done? -- Begoon 05:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

If others agreed with me I would of been done already. Others are refusing to allow me to remove policy violations. QuackGuru (talk) 05:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Missing comma?

Hi Begoon, thanks for your ANI defense of my punctuation. I sent a clarification of the sentence concerned to cygnis on his talk page: You wrote: "I might have put a comma after 'categories', to emphasise that style of oration and avoid that misread." This was in relation to my: "There are numerous question marks in regard to your prose, your inventing grammatical categories and then claiming they require commas and so forth". I had another look at this, again supposing the other person was right, but then, also again, I saw that what I had written was as intended. The three elements are "your prose", "your inventing grammatical categories and then claiming they require commas", and "so forth" – not "your prose", "your inventing grammatical categories", and "then claiming they require commas and so forth". So the missing comma would be following "commas" and not "categories", but its omission was again intentional and I don't think any serious ambiguity resulted. Jorm's misread owed to the partial quote, not to a missing comma. He said he'd had second thoughts about his comment, and this was before yours. I didn't figure my clarification rated getting posted at ANI, and I suppose you likely agree. There are things I've felt like saying at ANI, but EEng suggests that I stay away from there and from AE, and I haven't had any reason to doubt his word on that. Sometimes the ANI or AE talk page (or "the Teahouse" or "the village pump" – why the capitalization discrepancy on those?) has seemed like an appropriate place for a question – of which I've had several – but it also says I can ask an administrator. Could you field one or a couple of questions privately (email) or semi-privately (on-wiki)? Thanks again. –Roy McCoy (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Roy - don't take this the wrong way, but pretty much the whole point of my comment there was to demonstrate how pointless I found the discussion. Now, let me be clear - I dislike poor grammar, and approve of efforts to improve it. However (and it's a big however), I also reserve the right to point and laugh at those who obsess over it. I guess what I'm saying is that I can't think of many things I'd be less keen on than becoming some kind of "grammar referee" or even sounding board. I don't really do wikipedia related email anyway - and I'm afraid I'd probably be a poor choice for this 'role'. Sorry if that's not much help. By the way, EEng is a wise voice - listening to what he says is generally a very good plan. -- Begoon 13:38, 10 June 2019 (UTC)