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Well...here's my talk page. If anyone has questions about an edit I did, please put it here. --Silver seren 14:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

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DYK for Guide (software company)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Just wanted to pop by and say thanks again for suggesting Guide for DYK and your help with the nomination. Thanks! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 14:09, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello

A bit delayed, but I did want to thank you for your comments on my talk recently. I appreciate your input. I don't recall ever directly interacting with you (other than to say recently that a ban/block for your comments on the thread was way over the top), but I've seen you working around the project for a good while, so thank you for that as well. Drop by any time. — Ched :  ?  15:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

BP Talkback

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Arturo at BP (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Palm oil RSPO section

Hi Silverseren, I saw your message on my talk page and I wanted to let you know that the part of the request involving WP:MEDRS has been resolved though the other, hopefully simpler, request for the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) section remains. The RSPO section needs to be updated because it is entirely unsupported, except for a link to the main RSPO website. I have also discovered that a lot of what is contained in this section is copied from RPSO publications. If you have time to look at the RSPO request more closely I would appreciate it, so far no one has offered any feedback yet. Thanks in advance. YellowOwl (talk) 22:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply on my talk page. It is no problem for me to see if others are available, so I will look for some appropriate editors today. YellowOwl (talk) 20:05, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I joined WP:CO-OP. Now what?

Hello,

I added my name to the list of participants for WP:CO-OP, but I cannot really see where (if any) activity is taking place. Could you walk me through the place, and tell how many people are actually active?

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC) [TB please!]

Activity from other members of the Wikiproject is indeed the issue. I have to prod them a lot to get them to do anything. But, primarily, we just focus on WP:PAIDHELP. And there's periods of lulls where we don't get any requests for two or three weeks and then we'll suddenly get 4 at once. For right now, the only ones still open are, I suppose, Arturo's, but I think that's being reviewed rather well at this point, and then YellowOwl's, who I suggested to go ask another member for assistance in reviewing, since i'm busy myself. If you want, you can go and help out with YellowOwl's request. Looks like they've already found a reviewer, but another set of eyes is always welcome. Silverseren^C 23:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I wished to learn more about how to deal with such situations, having negligible knowledge of the matter currently. So if I just know the basic outline in handling cases, that will be good. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

COI review

Hey Silver,

I wanted to get your thoughts on some language about reviewing suggestions or drafts from COI folks/corporate reps. Would you let me know what you think about User:Ocaasi/COIreview? Thanks, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 01:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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Will Beback

I was surprised to see you opposing the unblock for Will Beback. To me the vote so far seems to run more or less along "party lines", with you being one of a handful of exceptions. (Though true, the sides are defined in part by differing opinions about blocking in general) I don't recall much of the case now except that I was convinced enough to award [1]. What did he do that is so unforgiveable anyway?

I ask because I was near to a knee-jerk support there, but you're a good editor and you might talk me out of it. Wnt (talk) 22:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

He was a serial POV pusher. Sometimes he was on the side of what I would consider the "right" side, but that doesn't change the fact that practically all of his editing was in line with trying to push his own POV on the subject. Sometimes I agreed with him, sometimes I didn't, but his attempts to control and bias articles toward one side was very obvious. The only reason it took so long for him to get in trouble for it was because of how prolific of an editor he was and all the really nice articles he made. And the fact that he generally picked his fights so that he was negatively biasing minor subjects where the people arguing against him were new accounts, so that he could just end up getting them banned for POV pushing, even though he was doing the same thing in the opposite direction. Silverseren^C 22:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

In the end I still had to say unban. A general pattern of POV-pushing wasn't found in the case, and so I don't think it's appropriate to hold it against him now. Wnt (talk) 00:24, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

It seems to me that they were willfully ignoring the pattern in the case. It was a very obvious thing if you ever observed his editing. Silverseren^C 00:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I should also add that, as the Timidguy case was about, he had the tendency that he had to always dominate an argument and go to any lengths possible to win. it was because of that that he began digging up personal information on his opponents and outing them in order to drive them away. He did this a lot on articles about new religious movements. And, while I understand the topic area is very difficult to edit in, it doesn't excuse his actions. And, considering his actions, I just don't think he can interact appropriately on-wiki. Silverseren^C 00:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Question at PAIDHELP

Hi there, Silver. I just posted a request at Paid Editor Help (see here) about a two-part project on behalf of the company MicroStrategy. I've received positive feedback from editors about each article, but no follow-up; I could use some help bringing additional eyes to the proposals. I'm also going to ping Qwyrxian since both would probably be done best as histmerges, once there's consensus. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Suzanne M. Olsson (again)

Hi mate. Not sure if you have Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Suzanne M. Olsson on your watchlist but I finally got some time to fix it up a bit. I've removed most of the previous links/refs as almost all of them were dead links. I've added some better "news" sources and extensively cited those sections that make particular claims.

We obviously don't have a source for her early career (given the source was the subject working as an editor here).

I'm inclined to think, though, that it's probably okay to move into mainspace with what is there now. I'm also inclined to treat its transition into mainspace a bit like WP:AFC. So if you could "review" it (so to speak) that would be helpful. If you are happy with it I'll work on moving it to the above redlinked location. Cheers, Stalwart111 22:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Bluh, I totally forgot about it, i've been so busy. Sure, i'll look it over tomorrow and see if I can find anything else to add or change. If not, then i'll go ahead and move it over. Thanks so much for your help. Silverseren^C 04:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem mate! Let me know if you need me to look at anything else. Otherwise, move as you see fit. Stalwart111 10:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Let's...let's make it tomorrow tomorrow, meaning Monday. Let's pretend I said that all along. >_> My Sundays suck because i'm preparing for my Mondays, but I should be available Monday evening after my Monday is over. It is perfectly understandable if you didn't understand any of that. Silverseren^C 06:37, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

No, I understand that, though it's made more amusing by the fact that I'm Australian and so it's already Monday evening for me. By the time you get to Monday evening it will likely be Tuesday for me. But let's pretend you said that all along... Ha ha. Stalwart111 07:43, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:ANI notification

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may be interested. The thread is Irānshahr and HistoryofIran on 2011-2013 Iranian protests. Not at all about your behavior, but since you made a few edits I figured you should know. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Message

Good morning. I left you a message on my talk page last night. Anne (talk) 12:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Wikipedia controversies. I agree entirely with your talk page comments, btw. Prioryman (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Iranian protests article.

I have written something to you in Iranian protests talk page, please take a look at it, and please tell that other guy to stop removing it, he is personal about this and not neutral, i just want you to see if it's good or not. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC)