Talk:Dua Lipa

Her name is not Albanian

Last I checked, Dua is Arabic, not Albanian. It means Prayer to god. 199.101.61.254 (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Due to JAWS, my screen-reader not recognizing your little captcha system for human verification, the source is linked in the edit summary, since I know you won't allow me to use people I know named Dua from Malta and Albania as a source. see the edit summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.61.254 (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I investigated and already corrected the detail. Thanks. Alexismata7 (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Her name is indeed Albanian and 'dua' means 'to love' in Albanian. Nothing needs to be changed. — Tom^(T2ME) 17:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Tomica: in Albanian, love is "dashuria", not "Dua". She has said that is the meaning of her name but it is not, it would be something like "according to the artist, her name means this", but not to state it as a fact. Alexismata7 (talk) 17:43, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore, she has clearly referred to the word "love" and not "to love", which are two different things. [1] Alexismata7 (talk) 17:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Exactly, "dashuria" means love, "dua" means "to love". Te dua means I love you. I do have limited Albanian-language knowledge, but I am pretty sure I know this. Whatever she said, saying that her name is Arabic 1) not source available, 2) incorrect. Simple as that. — Tom^(T2ME) 18:04, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Tomica Indeed, its name is of Arab origin. What happens is that it has different meanings in various languages. "Dua" mainly means "to want" if you translate the name from Albanian to English (that's what the Google translator says). Her name is a Arabic female given name and exists sources [2] [3] [4] The name "Dua" derives from the Arabic word which means "Prayer" [5] What happens here is that she was born with an Arab name from Albanian parents and there is a good chance that there are sources that credit the origin of the name to Albania, because since she is famous and born with that name, people can credit the origin to Albania simply by the origin of her parents. Most people did not know that name before it because it is obviously not common. Alexismata7 (talk) 20:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Same words can have different roots. Albanian language is an Indo-European language, while Arabic is a Semitic language. There's a huge possibility that the word 'dua' has different roots, hence the different meaning in the respective languages. Dua has an Albanian ancestry, her parents gave her the name 'Dua', which in Albanian means 'to like/want or 'to love'. Your argument is based on a pure WP:OR since there are reliable sources confirming what's already in the article. — Tom^(T2ME) 20:39, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Tomica That is correct, her parents gave her that name because it means that words, but the origin of the name is Arabic and I just showed you with references, there is no source that expresses that Dua is a name of Albanian origin, except the sources who repeat what Dua says or sources who believe the name is of Albanian origin only because Dua Lipa (a singer of Albanian origin) is called Dua. We have to change that part of Lipa's article because it is interpreted that the encyclopedia is saying (from its references) that the name really means "love" in Albanian but it is not. To get rid of the debate, I think we should put something like "according to the artist her name means love in Albanian". Or we could quote users of the Wikiproject to see what they think, but that part of the article is affirming something incorrect. We shouldn't leave that information there because any reader can come and read and misinforming himself about the real meaning of the name in Albanian just because the singer says that's what the name means. Alexismata7 (talk) 21:17, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Open a discussion about whatever and wherever you think, but what are you doing right now is pure WP:OR. Dua is an Albanian name and means what she said in that interview (the cited source on Wikipedia). And you seem to completely ignore what I wrote in my previous comment, that the words are probably unrelated. And even if they were related, DUA means love in Albanian and she is Albanian, not Arabic. No need to put "According to the artist...". I can't believe you made a huge fuss and you were ready to change something that's sourced on a simple comment made by an IP. — Tom^(T2ME) 22:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

First of all, you must understand that any user (new or old) can be right or wrong. To devalue a person's opinions just because they are not registered and only take into account the arguments of former users would be discrimination. We are human beings and we can all be wrong and right. I am discussing this because the references that I showed you refute what the presenter says in the interview with Lipa where she asks about the supposed meaning of her name. Lipa or a presenter can say what they want, their statements do not give a verdict on the meaning of something, they are not a dictionary or a world library. I already showed you that the name is of Arabic origin and that the same name also has its own meaning in Albanian. The fact that Lipa has adopted a name for Albanian parents does not automatically make her name of Albanian origin. Therefore, that reference contains wrong information, "Dua" does not literally mean that in Albanian, "love" is "dashuria", and I am not an expert in the subject either but I am getting carried away by the main definition of the word "love" in Albanian, which is "dashuria". But it is that I cannot assure you if the words are related or not, there I can tell you that there are no sources to determine it. What I can tell you is that there are sources that affirm that Dua is of Arab origin and has meanings in different languages, "love" in English and "dashuria" in Albanian. There is no evidence that there is a "Dua1" and "Dua2", Arabic and Albanian respectively. And I ask you to look for references to see if I am wrong, I want to know, something new is learned every day. Also, she is not Albanian, she was born on England and she spent the first ten years of her life there... She will be able to share the culture of Albania because she imitated it from her parents but she was born in England and nowhere in the article does it say that she is Albanian as you are claiming. Alexismata7 (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Stop trying to portray me as the bully. I am not discriminating against Wikipedia users. That IP didn't provide any third-party source in which Lipa claims her name is Arabic. What you found is, that Dua is also used as an Arabic name, however, it doesn't mean in this case IS ARABIC. Isn't this enough for you "Lipa was born on 22 August 1995 in Westminster, London, to Albanian parents who had left Pristina (in present-day Kosovo)[a] in 1992.[2]"? Literally the first sentence of the first section paragraph! She was born in England, but her roots are Albanian. Her parents were born in Kosovo, in Albanian families, they shared their culture with her as she was growing up. You are wrong, cause you found some reference that's totally unrelated to Dua, as opposed to her interview, where she says what her name means in Albanian. She doesn't even say whether it's Albanian or not. So stop with this ridiculousness already. — Tom^(T2ME) 23:39, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I did give sources in the edit summary of one of my comments here. Due to the limitations of my screen-reader, I cannot solve the human verification captcha, which is visual, and is a 2007 captcha with on audio options. As a result, I am limited to what I can and can't do. Look at one of my edit summaries here, and you'll see that I provide links in them, that's the best I can do until Wikipedia catches up and uses an accessible human verification system. 199.101.61.254 (talk) 23:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Also aren't Lipa's parents Muslims? Often times muslims give names to their kids based on the Quran, hence why names like Hamza and yes, Dua are common for the children of muslims. Many Albanians are islamic after all. 199.101.61.254 (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Tomica: I'm not trying to portray you as the bully, I'm just criticizing the discriminatory act you took. To mention that I am carried away by what an IP wrote is to devalue the opinion or the help that an unidentified person is providing to correct a possible error, therefore, I recommend that when reading an opinion, cover with your hand the name of the person writing the texts so you can give an answer without judging if that person is registered or not, or if he or she has little or a lot of time here. Personally, I value the opinions of whoever. Lipa can say what she wants, but she doesn't study anthroponymy. I am going to contact experienced users of the Arabic and Albanian Wikipedia to give a solution to this. Alexismata7 (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

199.101.61.254 There are no reliable sources that say that. I already contacted a person who collaborates in Wiktionary, I told him to leave his message here. We will see what he is going to say to clear the doubt. Alexismata7 (talk) 00:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Alright thanks. agin, apologies for not posting in-line citations due to limitations caused by JAWS (my screen-reader) vs. the captcha. thanks. 199.101.61.254 (talk) 01:25, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, excuse me, I didn't know you two were experts in anthroponymy. My bad. We are not changing anything until you find a third-party source of Dua herself saying her name is Arabic. Finding a book with names is not enough to change information. She hasn't even said her name is Albanian, but that it means 'love' in Albanian, which is TRUE! Fullstop. And we don't know for sure whether she is Muslim, Albanians can also be Catholic and Orthodox as well. — Tom^(T2ME) 10:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Why does it have ot be Dua herself saying tha ther name is Arabic? What, because her name is Dua? Then I guess I can say that my name Aden is a Malaysian name just because I'm of Malay descent. Why does it have ot be Dua herself saying "My name is an Arabic name" vs. a reliable source that gives the name as meaning prayer in Arabic? You are devaluing the other sources just because they haven't come from an English girl's mouth. Alexis gave a few sources, I linked a few in the edit summary, and they aren't good enough just because they aren't coming from the sacred texts of the book of Dua Lipa. 199.101.61.254 (talk) 10:58, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Tomica: This type of foolish behavior on your part can surely scare users, any new user who argues with you will be disappointed because it seems that one has to ask you about a "yes" and "no" of you but that will be not the case with me. Locate yourself in time and space, this is a project for everyone and nobody owns anything. No there is no full point, you are not the judge of anything, this is not the article of Rihanna and its derivatives. I inform you that your editing summaries saying "No" have no effect, I do not open a discussion to ask for your approval, but to prove the reason with arguments. Dua doesn't need to declare the origin of her name and that's why I told you that anthroponymy is in charge of that. Be clear that you will not handle things under your control as you did in the past with other users, do not make a mistake with me. Here it is discussed, if you insist on avoiding the references that I provide it is your problem. No one studies anything here, but the only person who has not given any references is you, so we are going wrong there. "Dua" means "love" in Albanian? Well show me a translation of the word "love", prove what you says and do not impose your opinion as you have done before. Alexismata7 (talk) 15:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

So, you have not proven that the name "Dua" means "love", nor have you proven that the name "Dua" is of Albanian origin ... So what is this all about? opinions? I am truly willing to admit that I am wrong if you prove it. While, I must listen to what the references says and not a presenter. [6] Alexismata7 (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Alexismata7: Can we use Dua herself as a source for this? I've looked around on the internet and can't find anything outside the interview, hence why I do question its reliability, at least in terms of where the name itself comes from. And just to be clear to othe rusers who may be browsing this, I am not emplying that Dua herself isn't of Albanian ancestry, but rathe rjust that the name Dua itself is Arabic, not Albanian, based on several sources that list Dua as an Arabic name. Even if we don't include the fact that Dua is an Arabic name in th earticle, should we really include the part of the interview where Dua mentions that her name means "Love" in Albanian in the article text? While it does not directly say "The name Dua is an Albanian name, " it does emply it by stating that the name means love in Albanian. So again to outsiders, I'm not question nationality or anything like that, I'm questioning a fact about language, as stated on the Wikipedia article. Aden Singh 45 (talk) 22:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

That is exactly what I said, we cannot use the statements of Dua Lipa or a presenter of a clothing brand as sources about the origin or meaning of the name. If you translate the word "love" into Albanian it means "dashuria" and not "Dua". We cannot state in the article that this is the meaning just because the interviewer says it or because Lipa says it. I repeat it, Lipa or the presenter can say what they want but they do not study anthroponymy nor are they a library. And that's when I say that it should be stated that according to Lipa her own name means "love" in Albanian because when you translate that ... Clearly "love" in Albanian is "dashuria" and shouldn't be placed as if Wikipedia were "saying" it.

I have found two sources:

• In an interview that Tom Lamont did to Lipa for The Guardian, he writes that the name means "love" in Albanian. [7]

• In an interview that Patrizia Pepe did to Lipa for her own brand called Patrizia Pepe, she says: "I discovered that your name means 'love' in Albanian". [8]

There is no record name that the name "Dua" is of Albanian origin, only the word but not the name, Lipa referred to the name (which is spelled the same as the word) means "love" in Albanian in the interview.

"Dua" can be used in different ways in the Albanian language and not exactly to mean "love". [9]

Well, Lipa's parents did not know that the name is of Arab origin. And if people believe that the name is Albanian only because is her, that is not a matter of Wikipedia. Alexismata7 (talk) 02:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Alexismata7: Well then that's what I've been saying all along. I couldn't find sources, and last I checked, the name is Arabic. That's basically what I've been trying to say here this whole time. I also just wanted to clarify for the user @Tomica: who is also in this. Aden Singh 45 (talk) 03:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Dua is an Albanian verb which means "I want you". It is sometimes used as a name despite it being a verb.--Maleschreiber (talk) 11:23, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: this discussion was started by a long-term highly problematic user. I removed it accordingly, but my removal was partially reverted ... I think it's better to have a full discussion, if we're going to have one at all, so I've put the whole thing back. Aden Singh 45 is just another sockpuppet of this person. Graham87 07:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

BLP

Template:BLP noticeboard --Maleschreiber (talk) 11:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2020

She is British can not be English 46.217.252.28 (talk) 01:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish are nationalities of Native United Kingdom citizens. All others are British citizen in nationality but can not and are not born into it. So please correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevang61 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2020

please add "Dua Lipa" to "Category:21st-century Albanian singers" Oasisarah (talk) 22:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. The article makes no mention of Albanian citizenship, and explicitly gives her birth place in the UK. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

albanian can also refer to ethnicity. bebe rexha and ava max are in the category despite being born in the united states.Oasisarah (talk) 12:38, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Still  Not done. The plain meaning is citizenship; that the others are misplaced doesn't mean this should be too. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

even though over half of the people in the category arent born in the country, and most of them dont mention albanian citizenship? thats hardly consistant usage of your plain meaning.Oasisarah (talk) 20:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Then the solution would be to remove those others from the category. It doesn't make much sense to have in categories calling her both British and Albanian. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 20:35, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2020

Does Dua Lipa fall for the Category:Feminist musicians? In the activism section of her Wiki biography, its says that Lipa has stated to be part of feminism and has expressed being against sexism within the music industry, as well as using social media to raise awareness of women's problems and defend gender equality.

Feminism She participated in a short film for an initiative called "Global Feminism" directed by The Circle of Annie Lennox in association with Apple Music released on 7 March 2019 due to International Women's Day that it celebrating the later day. The clip highlights "the injustices that still suffered millions of women and girls around the world due to misogyny, rape and violence to pay for the disparity" in which Lipa appears with a poster that states: "1 and 3 women and girls are impacted by physical or sexual violence in their lifetime".

Hope this helps! DXVALE1111 (talk) 13:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:02, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2020

Change English to British Stevang61 (talk) 16:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 16:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Also created an editnotice Template:Editnotices/Page/Dua Lipa - FlightTime (open channel) 16:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Ice princess

Love your music Remi nano (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Dua Lipa is of Muslim background

Dua Lipa was born to Albanian parents from Kosovo. Both these nations mostly adhere to Islam.

And here, her family and hers use the (Arabic) blessing "Eid Mubarak" to her fans who celebrate Muslim holidays: https://twitter.com/dualipa/status/1007606780170526720 (pre-deletion backup: https://twitter.com/dualipahungary/status/1264512419306582017)

And here's The Irish Times telling us her parents are both Muslim immigrants from Kosovo and Bosnia (yet another Muslim-majority nation): https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/dua-lipa-you-have-to-be-made-of-steel-to-not-let-words-get-to-you-1.4220195

And here she is visiting a Mosque by herself, while wearing the Muslim headwear of Hijab: https://www.albawaba.com/entertainment/old-rules-dua-lipa-wears-hijab-and-conservative-clothes-inside-abu-dhabi-mosque-pictur

We should add at least "She is of Muslim background" to her Early life section; in order to get a more genuine comprehensive bio.

Or perhaps "Her family is of Muslim heritage". What do you guys prefer? I opt for the first one. OmerTheAmir (talk) 00:28, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

If you insist. Anyway, I like the second version better. CheckCatBod (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@OmerTheAmir How about a combination: "Her family is of Muslim background"? Karenkuru (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done. OmerTheAmir (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Her family is of Muslim heritage is the most accurate. Bil4lyn (talk) 10:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Overlap between 'advocacy' and 'political views'

There's overlap between these sections and it's not clear why, for example, speaking "in favor of abortion rights in the United States following the Alabama abortion ban" is "advocacy" while "dissatisfaction with the withdrawal of United Kingdom of the European Union due to Brexit" is a "political view", rather than both being political views or both being advocacy. I'm tempted to suggest merging the sections. Some of the content is general "advocacy" (e.g., "She has publicly denounced sexism within the music industry" is not "political"); OTOH, much of the "political views" section could also be considered advocacy (e.g. "stating that 'no refugee leaves their country without having to'" could be considered as much advocacy for refugees as a "political position"). Other ideas would be to try to implement a firmer distinction (e.g. moving the Alabama abortion ban thing into "political views"?), and/or put both sections as subsections of e.g. "Advocacy and political views" and then leave hard-to-sort or line-straddling content in the general section(?). Thoughts? -sche (talk) 18:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

@-sche: I was the user who added the content and it seems to me that the Lipa affair about abortion has more of an advocacy nature than a political point of view. About the specific content that you say should be considered advocacy: the main idea of ​​the content about immigration policies is that she did not agree and so I added the content in the political views section, her claims about refugees are simply a complement and not for that reason the content should be classified as advocacy. I do not see it correct to leave the content in the general section because that section is more for content specifically about her musical career. Alexismata7 (talk) 13:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Ethnic accuracy

Dua Lipa is British Albanian, NOT English! Please correct! Bil4lyn (talk) 10:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Dua Means Prayer in Arabic

Can someone please point out that her first name 'Dua', means prayer in Arabic. For example, "I'll say a prayer for you" is the same as "I'll say a dua for you". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.187.143.18 (talk) 08:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Our . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.89.158.171 (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2021

Dua Lipa is Albanian-English not just English. QuantumDune (talk) 16:24, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Terasail^[✉] 16:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Reason for exile of her parents

I bring this discussion from my talk page, which one user titled "edit wars".-- Alexismata7 (talk) 22:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there. Please stick to the Wikipedia editing guidelines. If you do not like some change explained with arguments, your answer cannot be "to my knowledge. You cannot say someone is running from a war if war is not present there. Why Macedonians, or Montenegrins have not fled the country and they were as well in same area. You have one warning already Pixius talk 13:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Pixius: Edit wars? where was the edit wars? I tried to correct you. Of course I have to speak based on my knowledge because if I do not know about a subject I cannot comment or correct another person. Hostile messages such as "you have one warning already" do not help this project at all and how strange that someone with 10 years here does not know that. It makes me angry that you say that I tried to make his story more tragic when I think I tried to expand the early life section as neutral and well written as possible since English is not my native language, but to remove that thought I can tell you that the term refugees is used in references, to give you an example of one like Rolling Stone, which says that Lipa is the "eldest child of refugees". Lipa family left that territory due to the conflicts that were already starting there in the 90s when Milošević became president, his mandate had a great effect on the political and social situation which did not allow them to continue with their studies due to that the government damaged the education system and many people lost their jobs for political reasons when the Serbs arrived on the territory of Kosovo. That's what I know and so I was able to make a correction to another user. If not, then you can argue why that family left Kosovo in 1992 when the war really started in 1998. It's okay, we can accommodate the term "refugees" to "immigrants". You cannot say that there were no conflicts in those countries, a war did not start at night in the morning by magic, everything has its background.

Why did I put that they were refugees from the Yugoslav Wars?

Well, because they did not leave Kosovo because of the war that began 6 years after they left, their departure was caused due to conflicts related to the Bosnian war, because they did not leave Kosovo with a present war it can be said that they are immigrants from the Yugoslav wars because they were not in one but their immigration was effectively caused by the Yugoslav conflicts and they resided in a territory involved. Anyway, Rolling Stone stated it. --- Alexismata7 (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I am going to be straight with you ( as I am this kind of person) because you are trying to slander me publicly and cherry pick what suits your case: You have been warned for your behaviour, not by me, and this is publicly available on your page, i.e. valid source. You keep bullying this page with your edits according to your "feels and knowledge" and not sources which can support this claim. I have already told you there is no need to romanticize her "hard social background" to give the article more weight.

Things that you have written here simply do not bear any valid argument. Why haven you published the complete conversation including the edits where I have already told you the reasons and corrected your "thinking process"? English not being your mother tongue is also irrelevant here - no need victimise your self. It does not matter that you are young as well - methods you are using, "covering your tracks" and trying to victimise your self are completely wrong and manipulative as well.

I have already told you that when something is called "British war" this talks about wars in British domain, with items happening near to each other, but not related to one another. Several events in one geographical area cannot lead to the conclusion you made. Then next point, Milosevic came to power in 1989 - taking your sources, and your attempt to pull some connection and causality to 1992. Btw, Bosnia declared independence in 1992. Separate state completely unrelated to Kosovo. Also, as I have wrote you, and you like "causes" - University of Pristina, the dean was Albanina. He has refused to enrol 130ish (136 if I remember) students of Serbian ethnicity qualified according to entrance exam - cause other Albaninas on the list would not be accepted. He got warned, then suspended and then fired. Other protested, did not take care of their job to teach students and did not show up at their jobs they got fired too. None of them was fired because e was Albanian, but because he breached working discipline. Here in west where I live, you have to provide proof of absence in 3 days, failing to do so, you bear consequences. So your claim that Mr. Lipa could not study ( he should thank to stubborn professors and government) does not qualify him as a war refuge. Try to use this argument as a cause to get entry to the US - good luck. And what do you mean "When Serbs arrived to Kosovo" when? in 6th century?

These 3 "sources" you have placed here do not show anything to support your claims.

1st article from Rolling stone 14th January 2021 - this is what author wrote - not what she or someone from her family said, made it more romantic or what ever he fells to write, freedom of expression he had there ( Why Anna Karenina's dress was burgundy red? - because LT has written it so ) - this is not valid source .

2nd source form link lands on page 12 title "Background", page consist of 7 bullet points, none of them even mentions war, page 13 mentions war in point 19 in Slovenia and Croatia - Kososvo and Metohija were not mentioned at all in any sense of war; page 14 Bosnian war, further on it starts with why the Assembly was dismissed - by illegal declaration of Kosovo as constitutive republic in SFRY. Why they started the protest, why they were suppressed, etc.. - this second source also not valid.

3rd source is there to fill the number. Page 323 from the link points to NATO campaign, not related to 1992 at all ( even-though NATO planned whole campaign in the beginning of 1990, the just need cause, which at the end they had to fabricate )

So I will repeat once again - valid sources, not personal impression on "Why Anna Karenina's dress was burgundy red"

And as creme on top - here is the article from the Guardian, i would say a bit more reliable source from 5th August 2018 which predates yours by 2,5 years:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/aug/05/dua-lipa-father-organises-kosovo-music-festival

I think you can guess - no mention of refuge or war as a cause at all. Moreover they have written "left Kosovo" Pixius talk 20:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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@Pixius: This discussion should not have been so long because I already gave my explanations. I'm not trying to publicly sland you, I don't think it's fair for me that you go to my talk page and warning me about I don't know what and calling your message "edit wars" when there was never a war of nothing and I just reverted you just one time.

First of all multiple reverts of same item is not "one time" - every single time you have changed your excuse.

What kind of behavior am I having? I barely reverted you once and this is our first discussion. When did I tell you that English is not my mother tongue to make you say that I victimized myself? I do not continue bullying, I continue working on this article so that it has as much content as possible through references, does that seem bad to you?

So again, it as not once. Second, you are trying to get excused by stating that Eng is not your mother tongue. By your sentence construction i can say you have quite of Eng experience and you are able to understand the finesses and express yourself in fine details. Pixius talk 12:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

You're exaggerating, you mean I'm trying to give to the article a more tragic story just by adding the word "refugees" that I took from Rolling Stone, it's funny. Okay, I made a mistake in choosing the word and you expressed your disagreement then I put "immigrants" and that is what this encyclopedia is about, working together and reach consensus in case of disagreement. Wow, according to you I do not have sources to support my claims but then when I provide you with references you say that they are invalid simply because you do not agree? You cannot disqualify a source just because you did not like what the author wrote or you are not in their analysis, it is still a reliable source for Wikipedia.

he said she said is not a valid point to take something for a source. this is sopaboxing you are trying to do here and it is against the rules. It is not that i do not agree, it is against the rules.Pixius talk 12:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

That is not how things works here. I did not write that Dukagjin Lipa (Dua Lipa's father) could not study, I wrote that he could not continue her studies and had to travel to Bosnia.[10] He continued his studies in England and his wife also. Dua Lipa's statement in an interview in November 2016 that demonstrate Kosovo situation was a cause: There was just too much conflict, my parents wanted to finish their studies so they decided to move to London (now say it's not valid).[11] As I told you before, they had to leave that place due to the situation that existed at that time. And in case you say they left just because yes, I don't think that a Kosovo Albanian couple leaved their studies in their homeland to go to work in an unknown country to work as waiters in bars and restaurants. In my opinion it should be noted that they are immigrants from the Bosnian war, because that was the last place they were before traveling to London and also Dua Lipa confirmed that he traveled to London to continue his studies again.[12]

this is simply not true, read the article once again: "Lipa explains that her parents left Kosovo around the time the war in Sarajevo started. "My grandmother on my mum’s side is from Bosnia," she says. "I think because of that my parents moved. "There was just too much conflict, my parents wanted to finish their studies so they decided to move to London.”" How he hell have you concluded that they run away from Bosnia??? They were not even there...Pixius talk 12:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

And finally, I ask you to contribute positively to this and to stop addressing me with issues that have nothing to do with this discussion and accusing me of "covering tracks" when the least I have done is to revert you an edit. -- Alexismata7 (talk) 22:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

References

The New York Times and The Guardian as inaccurate sources

I would like someone to read NYT blabbering about Mr. Lipa history and writings here at the page. According to Mr. Lipa, he moved from University of Pristina, because there was no teaching in Albanian, to the University of Sarajevo which does not even offer Albanian as a language. This simply contradicts one another, it is not true and cannot be taken as reliable source -> NYT coverage of music festival in Kosovo

Second The Guardian article: As Miss Lipa tells it: “Once the Serbians came in, they wanted a lot of the historians to rewrite the history of Kosovo. To change it – that Kosovo was always part of Serbia and never part of Yugoslavia. And my grandfather was one of those people who wouldn’t, so he lost his job, because he didn’t want to write a history that he didn’t believe to be true.”

Prof. Dr. Seit Lipa, her grandfather was a chairman of Institute of history in Pristina from 1990 - 1995. So question here is about what kind of oppression we are talking about when he was a chairman of an official body founded and funded by Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and in the same time he was pressed to "change history".

Second to that, he also wrote a book in 1982 while employed in same Institute of History "Kosovo in the period of reconstruction-Kosova në periudhën e rindërtimit". Unfortunately I do not have a book, but judging by the title I assume it covers the period from 1945 to ~1980 (nearly all books with such title in communist Yugoslavia had same topic).

Third, Miss Lipa stated that he was fired from his job: Now, I could not find his date of birth, but judging from a photo (posted by Miss Lipa on social network) of him and another notable Albanian (grandfather of Rita Ora, also employed in government related institution ) born at 1935, and a fact that statutory retirement was at age of 60, in 1995 he has got legal grounds to be retired.

Another thing in the same article: Serbians came from where? To rewrite which history? Kosovo was integral part of Serbia, Serbia was integral part of Yugoslavia. This is a geopolitical fact. There is nothing to discuss there, especially what Dua Lipa says ( born in other country - UK ). When some historian write nonsense, you cannot take his writing as serious even if he is your grandfather. Also referring to those articles where Mr Lipa says that he insisted of upbringing his children in feeling strong national pride and taking into account the recent stir of chauvinistic outburst of Dua Lipa on the social networks we should take every single sentence with, not a grain, but a ton of salt. More over, she was 4 in 1999 when her grandfather passed away, i really don't think that he was telling her about his job.

Then again again unreliable source

"This article was amended on 3 and 7 April 2020. Dua Lipa’s debut single was New Love, not Hotter Than Hell as an earlier version said. This article was further amended because Lipa’s parents are both Kosovar-Albanian, not Kosovan and Bosnian as previously stated. This has been corrected."

Some editors just take the first item coming under their hands and write whatever stands there - first few references are coming from the same publisher with same BS, and what is more funnier, all over the web you can see the same text, somewhere translated, somewhere in original, saying the same thing that her mother was Bosnian...

As a conclusion, these articles cannot be taken as reliable sources as they are written with a strong bias from the start and interpreted by the authors of the articles. Even the protagonist, Dua Lipa, is changing the story from article to article (or authors have different inspiration at the moment)

I would also like to pop here another source of Unesco here https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000136152 page 44

"...Indeed, the harassment that Albanians regularly refer to tookplace in a situation that Judah described as “both dull and bizarre,” where police repression was constant, but Rugova drove around Pristina in a presidential Audi” (2000: 73). One international official noted how “the Serbs let the parallel system exist – they intimidated people, but didn’t destroy the system.” It is in this context that Serb and Albanian perspectives can both be seen as accurate...."

So it seams that at the end Mr. Lipa could study in Albanian, bit he did not wanted to....

Whom to believe lies in the bias of authors writing this Wikipedia article

Pixius talk 21:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Signing date with Warner Bros. Records

Well, I open this discussion so that whoever reads it gives me the time to advise me on what I should do in this case. What happens is that according to what I have investigated Dua Lipa signed her contract in 2014 with Warner Bros. Records, which Warner Music Group affirmed in 2017 saying that she signed in 2014 and so did Music Week whose source explains that Lipa signed in 2014 and said source also states that in 2017 the A&R Director of Warner said that it has been a 3-year campaign with Lipa. Then the matter begins when Music Business Worldwide claims that she signed the contract in summer 2015 and Evening Standard also claims she signed in 2015. I think this is an important issue to discuss for the article because for a long time it has been written in the lead section that she signed a contract in 2015 when in fact I find contradictions from different sources.

Everyone who is mentioned or not here is invited to give their opinion @LOVI33: @Lil-unique1: @JackReynoldsADogOwner: @HĐ: @Sergecross73: @MaranoFan: @Ashleyyoursmile: @Doggy54321: @Mediafanatic17: @Calidum: @Yaksar: @Tbhotch: @Nohomersryan: @Sricsi: @Happypillsjr: @BrandNew Jim Zhang: @Duaslovestory: @KHBritish: @Coolmarc: @Status: @RedMango9: @The Ultimate Boss: @Maudslayer: -- Alexismata7 (talk) 04:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Support 2014 based on the words of the record label themselves. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 10:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I also support 2014 as we have multiple sources. D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 11:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I support 2014 since we have multiple sources that are both reliable and conformational! Jack Reynolds (talk to me!) (email me!!) 13:20, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• I'm fine with using the label for the 2014 date. While we try to go off of third party accounts on Wikipedia, the truth is that this claim is not particularly self-serving or promotional, so there's no issue with going with the primary source in this instance. It would be different if we were trying to source the statement "Dua Lipa is the most inventive and dynamic artist of 2014" or something promotional and subjective like that. The label would have a vested interest in pushing something like that. But not here. Here, the label would be the authority of knowing when she signed a contract better than anyone else really. Sergecross73 msg me 14:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021

"She claimed that she espoused her feminist" Could this be "stated" instead of "claimed"? claimed implies dubiety. Respectfully, 98.35.13.170 (talk) 14:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. The word "stated" has more sense to affirms. -- Alexismata7 (talk) 15:05, 16 February 2021

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2021

I think "ethnic Albanian" should be changed to "Albanian" to avoid entering in the ethnic vs national debate. 77.109.116.198 (talk) 19:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Several sentences in the article's 'Early life' section are awkward, cumbersome, hard-to-follow, etc.

2/17/21:

I've selected three (current) examples of problematic sentences (marked with quotation marks), below. Three possible improvements are then offered for consideration (marked with brackets). I've tried not to alter the meaning or content of the original sentences. Thanks for considering:

(#1:) (Current entry:) "Her time in Kosovo was decisive in determining that the small scope of the music industry that Kosovo had did not satisfy the type of music career that she wanted to start and she did not feel possibilities of being able to launch music there, because she wanted to have her musical beginnings in a "global scale" and therefore she decided travel to London."

{Suggested replacement:) Her time in Kosovo helped Lipa determine that its smaller music industry might not match the type of music career that she wanted to start. She hoped for music career beginnings on more of a "global scale", and therefore decided to move back to London.}

(#2:) (Current entry:) "Her desire to return to London was made possible by the daughter of her parents' acquaintances, who was going to the English capital to do her master's degree, which made them feel more confident to let her go without their company."

{(Suggested replacement:) Lipa's parents felt more confident to allow her return to London without them when a daughter of one of their acquaintances also intended to move to the city to complete her master's degree.}

(#3:) (Current entry:)"Even though her intention was not to become a model, she got involved with Topshop considering "that could help her get out there", which would later cause her to sign with a modeling agency, whose agency landed her a role as a "singer" in an television advertisement for The X Factor in 2013.[11][39] Her participation in said role introduced her to a producer who at the time worked with One Direction and Ed Sheeran, which led her to obtain an offer for a publishing contract. Therefore, to assume the signing of the contract, she had to get a lawyer who introduced her to a Warner Bros manager and then Lana Del Rey's representative, Ben Mawson."[3]

{(Suggested replacement:) Though Lipa did not intend to become a model she nonetheless got involved with Topshop (Ed. note: British fashion retailer -- probably needs a footnote at least for reference), hoping "that could help her get out there". She signed with a modeling agency, helping her land a role as a "singer" in an television advertisement for The X Factor in 2013.[11][39] That role introduced her to a producer who at the time worked with One Direction and Ed Sheeran, which led to an offer for a publishing contract. She needed to get a lawyer for signing of the contract who in turn introduced her to Ben Mawson, a Warner Brothers manager and Lana Del Rey's representative at the time.[3]}

2Givemore (talk) 20:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, @2Givemore: I was the user who expanded that section and I took into account your corrections because I do not speak English and my native language is Spanish, therefore your advice can help. I ask you (if you have the time) to review the "Advocacy" and "Philanthropy" sections which are the ones I have expanded the most so far to see if there may be more sentences or errors to correct. Thanks for your suggestions. Alexismata7 (talk) 00:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

OK @Alexismata7: I will take a look at the sections you have mentioned very soon. I had suspected that the other section might not have been written by a native English speaker, though it mainly seems to need some smoothing-out or re-wording just 'here and there'. So I think you're doing a good job with the English writing. I'll leave a few more suggestions in this thread soon. 2Givemore (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)