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February 14

Italian neorealist film technique

What is the name of the filming technique where the camera acts as a character and you see the scene play out in their point of view? I remember seeing it in an early Italian neorealist film (can't recall the name!) where the camera/character runs after a vehicle to try to catch up to another character in the film. 108.75.114.105 (talk) 01:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Point-of-view shot. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

For a relatively recent example, the film At Eternity's Gate, a biographical portrait of Vincent van Gogh toward the end of his life, contains scenes with long takes filmed from Van Gogh's point of view.^[1][2][3]  --Lambiam 10:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

A more proletarian example is Peep Show (British TV series) (2003-2015). Alansplodge (talk) 12:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

For an old film shot almost entirely in this way. see Lady in the Lake. Deor (talk) 17:24, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

And of course Hardcore Henry. Staecker (talk) 01:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Do you have any thoughts on why your edit broke up Lambiam's comment?[4] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

It's the kind of thing that happens to me all the time: hitting a key while the cursor in the edit window is not positioned where I thought it was. Usually I notice the unintended effect, but occasionally I don't.  --Lambiam 15:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

just noticed this- sorry for my mistake! Staecker (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

An early example where this is used for its dramatic narrative effect is in the 1924 German film The Last Laugh. It may even be the earliest example in a commercially produced film.  --Lambiam 16:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

A variation - in Bad Boy Bubby we hear everything from Bubby's point of view. DuncanHill (talk) 15:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

February 17

Verifying final scene of 'The Battle of the River Plate'/'Pursuit of the Graf Spee'

Can somebody check and verify the final scene of 'The Battle of the River Plate'/'Pursuit of the Graf Spee'? I'm writing from Germany and read a Germans author's claim, that the film ends with Langsdorff's dead body on the German flag and a narrator monologuing about Langsdorff's honor and the enemy's respect for him. The only version of the movie I can find online is the one on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbXqw79A-Q It doesn't inlcude the scene of Langsdorff's body and no monologue. But then, the YouTube version might be cut.

Was this scene in the British original, was it in the US version, was it added for the German version only? And if it is the last, does anybody know whether the scene with Langsdorff's suicide was filmed in Britain (exclusevly for the German release) or if it was filmed in Germany? Many thanky in advance!--2A02:8109:BD40:65C4:DDD4:B473:6A45:E595 (talk) 15:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

The IMDB trivia section for the movie (which is not a fully reliable source, but usually decent) says that that scene was added specifically for the German dubbed version of the movie. --142.112.149.107 (talk) 03:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

February 19

Schubert D 850 interpretation

What exactly is meant by this legato marking, over a passage (start of the slow movement) marked with clear articulation that is evidently not a throughgoing legato?

Roy Howat somewhat cryptically remarks in doi:10.1080/08145857.1995.10415263 that this needs to "be read more orchestrally"; I am not 100% sure what he means by this (maybe to make the phrasing clearer as a long line?). There's a similar occurrence in the first Entr'acte of Rosamunde (also by Schubert), as he points out. Double sharp (talk) 12:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm reminded of the instructions that Han Solo gives Chewbacca in The Return of the Jedi, when they were attempting to get past a security check point in a stolen ship: "Keep your distance Chewy... But don't look like you're trying to keep your distance... I don't know, fly casual or something..." --Jayron32 14:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

When I play this piece, I adopt the traditional approach to slurs. The first note/chord is accented slightly, the last one (in this case the second one) is detached slightly. Because the third note is staccato (which is more than a slight detachment), the slightly detached second note helps give the whole bar a typical Schubertian lilt, which almost belies the melancholy of the melody as a whole. That's the magic of Schubert: he can depict villagers dancing happily (but with a wistfulness) to sad music. What Howat means by reading it more orchestrally, I can only conjecture. Perhaps imagining it being played by strings, clarinet, oboe, cor anglais etc while playing it on the piano. More than anyone I know, Schubert is a visual composer: that is, I always have a scene in my mind's eye when I play his works; it's not something I have to conjure up first, it just comes along with the music. That sometimes applies with other composers, too, but it never fails with Schubert. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A review of a recording by Richard Goode contains this sentence: By contrast, minute adjustments to the basic pulse allow Goode to distinguish legato and detached phrasings in the Con moto while maintaining a sense of long line. In a review of a recital by Evgeny Kissin, written by Jay Nordlinger, the reviewer is less specific, writing: The “slow” movement of the sonata is a beautiful and clever creation, a great Schubert song, for one thing. I put “slow” in quotation marks because the movement is not exactly slow and is in fact marked “Con moto.” Kissin played it in an interesting, sensitive, and effective way. He was able to find a style between legato and detached. This is rare.  --Lambiam 00:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@JackofOz, Lambiam, and Jayron32: Thanks to all for the responses. I have found it quite hard before to make this sonata turn out convincing – maybe it will work better now. ;) Double sharp (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

two masks are better than one

What superheroes / supervillains have used two or more masked personae simultaneously?

I'm not looking for Hank Pym, whose handle (and powers) changed several times; nor Moon Knight, who has multiple unmasked personae. —Tamfang (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

For a short time when Peter Parker was not being Spider-Man he used four separate costumed identities. These four identities were each later taken over by separate individuals, the four new heroes being collectively known as the Slingers. --Khajidha (talk) 23:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

More details here: https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-identity-crisis-marvel-ultimate-hero/ --Khajidha (talk) 23:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Do shapeshifters such as J'onn J'onzz count? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Tony Stark has used multiple Iron Man suits. Sometimes literally at the same time (via remote control or AI) and sometimes just swapping back and forth for different uses. They were all "Iron Men", so I guess they were all the same persona, albeit literally different masks. I'm not sure it's what you're looking for, but there are multiple instances of bad guys (and some good guys) infiltrating the other side and therefore having to don another identity. Matt Deres (talk) 22:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Special case there would be the Thunderbolts. Matt Deres (talk) 22:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I recall on the TV series The Lone Ranger, he would sometimes wear a disguise, typically a fake mustache and beard, with the upper half of his face exposed; and use a fake voice. Since no one except Tonto knew what his full face looked like, it worked. (On TV, anyway.) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:36, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

The Phantom was curious. When traveling abroad as Mr Walker* (*for Ghost who Walks), he'd rug up no matter the weather, and wear shades to hide the fact he was wearing a mask. Doug butler (talk) 05:04, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

February 21

Noticing two things when I watch the news

When I watch the news on TV or online, I notice two things. What are the purposes of a sign language interpreter doing sign language during press conferences? Does sign language interpretation hearing impaired people understand what the speaker is speaking about? When I view stories about a topic and the victim's family goes on the news and them seeking justice, I notice them showing the faces of some adults and blurring the faces of children at the same time. I also notice sometimes that they blur or pixelate the victim's or victim's children's faces. The news media also censors other adult's faces too. What are the rationale of blurring human faces in photo and video? Do they do this for protection, privacy, safety and security reasons? Is pixelation used to protect the subject's privacy, safety and security?

In this video on CBS Los Angeles for example, I saw some faces being pixelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1B4hV_Yf1Q

47.145.113.238 (talk) 08:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Blurring faces can be done for any combination of these reasons. In the video about hate crime against Asian Americans, the parents may not have given permission to show their kids recognizably, which otherwise might have led to confrontations with their schoolmates. Avoiding drawing attention from child predators is another consideration. Not showing unconvicted suspects in an identifiable way is routine; identification might lead to innocent persons being evicted from their homes and fired from their jobs, or possibly worse forms of extrajudicial punishment. Of course a hearing-impaired person who understands a sign language would understand the sign-language interpreter (provided they use the same sign language and are proficient). That is the whole point of sign language, and I do not understand why one might question this.  --Lambiam 12:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Silence of the Lambs

I am watching S.O.T.L. at home on my smartphone. If I, say, close the drapes and turn off the lights, will I be able to enjoy the film more? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.66.147.53 (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You don't enjoy Silence of the Lambs – you survive it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.125.75.168 (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)