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It is worthy to note that this incident has been covered up and misrepresented since it occurred by the US government. The issue when right to the white house. Help was on the way from our fleet and ordered to retreat by LBJ. A 4 part documentary, called "Sacrificing Liberty" needs to be watched if you really want to know what happened. The men that actually were there and survived are now speaking. Most of what is posted on Wikipedia is false. [[User:Sedonamike|Sedonamike]] ([[User talk:Sedonamike|talk]]) 18:20, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |
It is worthy to note that this incident has been covered up and misrepresented since it occurred by the US government. The issue when right to the white house. Help was on the way from our fleet and ordered to retreat by LBJ. A 4 part documentary, called "Sacrificing Liberty" needs to be watched if you really want to know what happened. The men that actually were there and survived are now speaking. Most of what is posted on Wikipedia is false. [[User:Sedonamike|Sedonamike]] ([[User talk:Sedonamike|talk]]) 18:20, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Hi. This section is in the middle of the article: "After coming under fire, the torpedo boats returned fire with their cannons, killing Liberty's helmsman.[45] The torpedo boats then launched five torpedoes at the Liberty.[46] At 1235Z (2:35 local time)[45] a torpedo hit Liberty on the starboard side forward of the superstructure, creating a 40 ft (12 m) wide hole in what had been a cargo hold converted to the ship's research spaces and killing 25 servicemen, almost all of them from the intelligence section, and wounding dozens.[45] It has been said the torpedo hit a major hull frame that absorbed much of the energy; crew members reported that if the torpedo had missed the frame the Liberty would have split in two. The other four torpedoes missed the ship.[citation needed]" |
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I have found a reputable citation (https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html) to fulfill the citation needed part, but a lot of the information in here is wrong. The torpedo boats weren't under fire, it's a 39-foot hole, the time is wrong, and it was five torpedoes out of six that missed the ship. I would suggest this to be the final paragraph: |
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"After erroneous reports of shelling, the torpedo boats began strafing the Liberty, launching six torpedoes. While five of them missed, at 1228Z(2:28pm local time), a torpedo struck the Liberty's right side, leaving a 39 ft (12 m) hole. The impact killed 25 servicemen, almost all of them from the intelligence section, and wounded dozens.[45] <ref>{{cite web |last1=Crewdson |first1=John |title=New revelations in attack on American spy ship |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html |website=Chicago Tribune |publisher=Chicago Tribune |access-date=10 March 2021}}</ref>" [[User:AvatarQX|AvatarQX]] ([[User talk:AvatarQX|talk]]) 04:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
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Survivors of The USS Liberty dispute Naval investigation
BBC has produced an alternative story to what really happened in regards to the Israei attack on The USS Liberty. "USS Liberty:Dead in the Water" 2002 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOH1XMAwZA Along with the BBC the vertrans of The USS Liberty has a website dedicated to the events that took place on that fateful day. http://www.gtr5.com/
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Article is waaay too long
I’d suggest a serious attempt be made at cutting it down in size to maybe 1/10th if the current length.
And perhaps make a separate article titled: “Conspiracy theories about the USS Liberty incident “.
Mistaken identification and friendly fire incidents happen in the fog of war. (Like several US inquiries have established that this was.) It’s nothing new and doesn’t warrant a 10.000 word article.
192.38.137.188 (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- The article is very long, arguably too long, but removing parts of it into a separate article is a terrible idea. Zerotalk 14:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Removing anything in this article based on biased opinion of motive, particularly when that bias goes against the victim's beliefs, would be completely dishonorable to the 34 people who lost their lives, and the motivation of such removal would need to be seriously questioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:D101:A620:5BA:A0AD:C139:AF70 (talk) 21:03, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
I agree with you, this article has some concerningly slanted language suggesting that parts of it were written by someone quite biased. AngryZinogre (talk) 02:58, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please ADD the following update:
On August 2020 TruNews.com released a documentary, Sacrificing Liberty, where the last remaining survivors of the USS Liberty were interviewed. The testimonies were recorded in 2019. P. Starton (talk) 16:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. What's the link to the documentary? Have there been reliable sources published about the documentary? Seagull123 Φ 09:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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It is worthy to note that this incident has been covered up and misrepresented since it occurred by the US government. The issue when right to the white house. Help was on the way from our fleet and ordered to retreat by LBJ. A 4 part documentary, called "Sacrificing Liberty" needs to be watched if you really want to know what happened. The men that actually were there and survived are now speaking. Most of what is posted on Wikipedia is false. Sedonamike (talk) 18:20, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hi. This section is in the middle of the article: "After coming under fire, the torpedo boats returned fire with their cannons, killing Liberty's helmsman.[45] The torpedo boats then launched five torpedoes at the Liberty.[46] At 1235Z (2:35 local time)[45] a torpedo hit Liberty on the starboard side forward of the superstructure, creating a 40 ft (12 m) wide hole in what had been a cargo hold converted to the ship's research spaces and killing 25 servicemen, almost all of them from the intelligence section, and wounding dozens.[45] It has been said the torpedo hit a major hull frame that absorbed much of the energy; crew members reported that if the torpedo had missed the frame the Liberty would have split in two. The other four torpedoes missed the ship.[citation needed]"
I have found a reputable citation (https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html) to fulfill the citation needed part, but a lot of the information in here is wrong. The torpedo boats weren't under fire, it's a 39-foot hole, the time is wrong, and it was five torpedoes out of six that missed the ship. I would suggest this to be the final paragraph:
"After erroneous reports of shelling, the torpedo boats began strafing the Liberty, launching six torpedoes. While five of them missed, at 1228Z(2:28pm local time), a torpedo struck the Liberty's right side, leaving a 39 ft (12 m) hole. The impact killed 25 servicemen, almost all of them from the intelligence section, and wounded dozens.[45] [1]" AvatarQX (talk) 04:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- ^ Crewdson, John. "New revelations in attack on American spy ship". Chicago Tribune. Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 10 March 2021.
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