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Zainab Shinkafi-Badugu

Hello, Celestina007, please after I started work on this title Draft:Zainab Shinkafi-Bagudu I realized you have previously deleted the article sometime in the past. Please how do we revive and improve the article. I recently recreated it and it was removed. Wikinaija (talk) 08:04, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

@Wikinaija, sorry for the late response. I can’t delete articles so that wasn’t me, nevertheless, add more reliable sources to the article then submit it via the AFC process, just click on the submit button & that would take care of that. Celestina007 (talk) 16:02, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Wikinaija, I just observed that in the fourth line of your comment, you used the plural pronoun “We” as opposed to the singular 'I' , please do tell, how many of you use this account to edit? Perhaps you are oblivious of this rule, Except per legitimate purposes, you are to operate only one account at a time. Furthermore, If you have been employed to create this article on behalf of the subject you are mandated to declare this. Read WP:COI & WP:PAID. Celestina007 (talk) 18:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Celestina007, please disregard my use of pronoun. It was a mistake. It is just me, and no one hired me. My passion has been to ensure I bridge wikipedia gap on women and in Africa, by creating articles about African's should are worthy of being in Wikipedia because of their work,impact, credibility and visibility.

Wikinaija (talk) 05:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Looking through the nominations to see how to improve the article, thanks celestina007 Tundealuko (talk) 14:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Pertinent Info Potentially Re: Article Considered for Deletion

In the case of deletion or not of the following page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Paul_Piccinino There is a possible conflict of interest/promotional aspect here, as the originator of the page BradDP186k is a colleague of the individual in question. Brad Rushing worked as DP (director of photography) on individual's recent project — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackraspberry17 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!
	Dear Celestina007, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 11:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

My Draft:Christian Stolz

I, Emily Selina, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Emily Selina (talk) 17:04, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Dear Celestina007, how it would be possible to publish this completed article in wikipedia.com Thank you for your help! In my opinion, the article is ready for publication. I requestet for undeletion.

Happy New Year!

Tahaaleem ^Talk— is wishing you a Happy New Year! It's the last day of 2024 and tomorrow will be 2025. Hope the coming year brings pleasures for you. Have a prosperous, enjoyable and a productive 2025. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Happy New Year

Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Celestina007: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 18:03, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

Empire AS ^Talk! — is wishing you a Happy New Year! It's the last day of 2024 and tomorrow will be 2025. Hope the coming year brings pleasures for you. Have a prosperous, enjoyable and a productive 2025. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Happy New Year

	Happy new year 2021 !
	Wish you a great New Year! Thanks and best regards RV (talk) 06:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

New Year's wikilove

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		This will not and would never equal what you do! Thank you for all that you're doing here! Em-em talk 14:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@M-Mustapha, Thanks M, i try my best. Happy new year mate!! Celestina007 (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Yandex.Mail

I'm starting to have some doubts about this one. It's a major part of a major internet suite, very important in its own country. Perhaps it and otherservice should be merged into te main article. not just listed there. If you disagree, I guess afd is the way to go. DGG ( talk ) 06:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey @DGG, to be honest I’d just let another editor take over that one. I’ve been mentally drained for a while now. Celestina007 (talk) 06:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

yes, I find that I too prefer to do what can be done easily, in a single short period of editing, and which will not require followup. Someone else will probably pick up this one. DGG ( talk ) 06:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Requesting explaination for speedy deletion

I request you to provide the reason for speedy deletion on the page I created Being Human (Music Producer) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForBeingHuman (talk • contribs) 06:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@ForBeingHuman, I certainly do not appreciate the commanding tone. However the reason is self explanatory. Celestina007 (talk) 06:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, I have added citations to prove the significance of this article Being Human (Music Producer). Please verify and remove the restrictions on this page

@ForBeingHuman, really dude? Is this the route you have chosen to follow? Writing an autobiographical article? Using a blatant alternate sock account to remove the A7 tag? Move-warring? Using Wikipedia for self promotion? and other counter productive activities? Its not a bright idea believe you me, just stop. Celestina007 (talk) 08:05, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, This is not at all for self promotion. Why is this page not significant to be on wikipedia? If it is for self promotional purposes, I would have given links to promote and attract people. I have written this article from a neautral point of view. I have'nt included any links in the articlee except for the citations. And that too for verification.

@ForBeingHuman, because it falls short of our general notability criteria. You haven’t still addressed why you used a sock account to remove the A7 speedy deletion tag. Using more than one account to game the system is a very grievous offense here did you know that? Well now you do! Celestina007 (talk) 08:33, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, Ok. I apologise for what I did. Can you please show me a way to get this article on Wikipedia?

@ForBeingHuman, As of now it is impossible. The subject of the article is an 18 yr old that woefully falls short of WP:GNG(how we roughly test notability) & also falls short of WP:MUSICBIO. Of course I doubt that what I’ve just told you would deter you from editing the article any further but you’d be wise to adhere else you risk landing yourself a block. You are already afoul of many grievous offenses, you are editing disruptively, using Wikipedia for promotional purposes, engaging in COI editing without declaration, and most worrisome is that you are currently and actively still socking. Celestina007 (talk) 09:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, no no. I didn't use it for promotion. I have drafted every page I've created. And now I am just reying to have an article on wikipedia just like evry other artists. I have a good number of montlhy listeners and followers. Why am I not eligible to have an article on Wikipedia?

@ForBeingHuman, I just told you above that the subject of your article (apparently per your responses, that is you!!!) isn't notable enough to have a Wikipedia article per WP:GNG & WP:MUSICBIO You can’t have a Wikipedia article “just like every other artist” because Wikipedia isn’t like LinkedIn where anyone can create biographical resumés on themselves. Biographical articles you see here are on notable persons who have passed our notability test & have been created by volunteers not the artists themselves randomly waking up on a Wednesday morning and deciding “it’s a good day to have a biographical Wikipedia article” Look! do you even bother to read my responses? or do I just go straight to report you for being a single purpose promo account? Celestina007 (talk) 09:42, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks Hudlag (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Need review

Greetings! I recently edited the draft Draft:Danish Siddiqui. I noticed that it was earlier created by a person about themself and it didn't meet the notability standards. I have updated the page with information about a notable person who goes by the same name. Since you last reviewed it, I thought you could have a look at the draft and re-review it. Indianite (talk) 19:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Indianite, hello, I think it would be best if you submit it for review as it doesn’t appear you have done so, then wait for a different reviewer to go through it as I currently have my hands full. I’m sorry. Celestina007 (talk) 20:15, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry but I did submit it for review on 1 January. User Victor Schmidt invited you to the discussion as well (see) Since there was no update from any other user, I reached out to you.. Indianite (talk) 20:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Indianite the draft article you linked above as of now is currently not submitted for review or am I missing any cogent point here? If you need quick responses to your answers, my tp unfortunately isn’t the best place for such. For swift assistance or response to your questions you may go straight to the WP:TEAHOUSE I’m afraid I can’t be of help any longer. Celestina007 (talk) 21:04, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Indianite, The history of the article is very much shady, & with the manner in which you have 'coincidentally' created the article, there’s little possibility any afc reviewer would accept it. Read WP:YFA.Celestina007 (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, I can see why you would say that the article has a shady history. I was somewhat amused when I saw that a person had tried to submit an autobiographical article... But was it wrong for me to use the same name for this draft? It was suggested that I create a separate draft and use a disambiguated title. Guess I'll go ahead with that suggestion Indianite (talk) 21:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Indianite, that’s the best route to follow. Celestina007 (talk) 21:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Open to suggestion

Hi Celestina007

I have resubmitted the article because I believe it meets criteria after I made minor edits to it, I also made a few comparisons to existing articles with similar pages as guides, I am open to suggestion to help review the content of the article to make it better and meet standard, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tundealuko (talk • contribs) 23:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Fixed it up...I think

Hey Celestina007 how are you? I came across an article you checked out a while ago and did some touch ups (with the help of a few folks from the teahouse). Would love to hear what you think of it now (I also left some notes about it on the talk page). Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roam_(musician) IronThumb3000 (talk) 14:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Consider

In the middle doing NPP I looked at User talk:Northern Escapee's talk page and noticed you had asked about previous accounts. Ok, so I continue on with my NPP and I find this odd entry on Special:Contributions/Brookefort's contributions page. Odd, I do say. --Whiteguru (talk) 05:38, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

What are your thoughts on this

Hello, hope things are well with you. I was wonder what are your thoughts might be about this new article: Isiolo Massacre?

Best wishes from Los Angeles,   // Timothy :: talk  16:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue, hello my friend, I’ve been following the news and it’s really a sad thing going on in America. Now as for what you asked, are you asking about the article being unsourced? If yes, then you may search for sources yourself and include it to the article because It appears to be an encyclopedic article of value. If you asking if it is notable or not, my take would be yes it is. I would go ahead to move the article from Isiolo Massacre to Isiolo massacre as the M ought to be in lower case. Have I answered your question mate or do you have any other peculiar questions? I’m always here to answer them. Celestina007 (talk) 18:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Four years ago I would never have believe this would have happened and it looks like it is going to get worse.

As far as the article goes, I can't find much of anything under the name Isiolo Massacre, other than in the body of one of the soures and an AllAfrica mention, and I'm not sure its actually a proper name. I know this was a violent time and their were massacres, but I am wondering if the name is correct.   // Timothy :: talk  02:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue, I share your concerns but like you said it appears the AllAfrica source actually has two pieces (this & this) published that specifically references “Isiolo massacre” so I think for now it’s a decent enough title. Celestina007 (talk) 04:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Clarification

Hello, I am Hud by name, Nigerian and I did not have any other account on Wiki beside this Hudlag, regarding this I never know any person among the contributor to this article.

I created this article due to the fact that, in My State (Kano State) we are almost 20 Million but I don't think we have up-to 10 Wikipedia-contributors that are active as I am now and who will pay for an article of a dead person? but I know the Man contributed a lot during his life time and he even wrote a book about his life called "The Making of a Nigerian Engineer" Published by (Safari Books Ltd) ISBN: Cased 978-978-57696-0-9 Paperback 978-978-57696-1-6.

I have no interest of doing anything that will make my account to be blocked from editing an article on Wiki, because I can say I am the only Contributor from Kano State Nigeria that will dedicated his time on Wikipedia for others to get general information about Kano State because the information on Wikipedia is very poor and I wanted to improve it and I will appreciated if you will be guiding me on writing and editing article with Pictures on wiki

best regards, I really appreciate your effort Celestina007

Hudlag (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:38, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hudlag, This was the message I left on your talkpage & no where in it did I say you were getting paid for the creation of the article & neither did I insinuate that in any which way so I’m surprised you are bringing that up. What I asked you was why at least 12 newly registered accounts had their first edits straight to that article & told you to read both WP:SOCK & WP:MEAT, so like I said I’m not sure why you brought up the issue of paid editing when I clearly never referenced that, or is there something subtle I’m missing here? Celestina007 (talk) 10:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Robert Bassmann

I am really trying to figure out why my moving Robert Basmann to the possibly living category was overridden on the very insulting claim that doing so was somehow "incompedtent". It clearly sounds like an insult to me. Beyond this, As best as I can tell none of the sources demonstrate that Bassman has been alive for the last 25 years. Bassmann is 94-years-old. The guidelines for possibly living is over 90 and no sourcing showing them alive in the last 10 years. What am I missing here?John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Actually on further review, the most recent source is 28 years old. There is a source that was gathered in 2015, but it is evidently the primary source for his birth. There is also the website of his most recent employer, but the link there does not work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• I am really getting annoyed at this. The edit summary used to revert my edit on Gene Barge is really uncalled for as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I do not see how any of those sources show anything recent, but even if they did the edit summary is uncalled for.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Stop being an uncivil lout, JPL. If you want to complain about me, I have a talk page that somehow appears to have escaped your attention. Instead, not only are you posting to uninvolved editors' talk pages. trying to drag them in, but you're dishonestly trying to shame me by presenting faked quotes from my edit summaries with misspellings I hadn't made on each talk page you posted to. I can spell "incompetent". Here, it looks like you can't. That's at best ironic, or it would be if it didn't appear deliberate. Bluntly, you don't understand the instructions for the category. It doesn't say "sourcing". It says "documentation". Any documentation that indicates the subject has been alive within the last decade prevents application. It doesn't have to be in the article, or even be related to something notable enough to be in the article. A photo of them at their 75th high school reunion in their local paper would be good enough. It would be time- and effort-wasting to require that editors prove that elderly article subjects have done something noteworthy at an advanced age to prevent them from being classified as only possibly alive. It's also weird and creepy. Of course, in the case of Gene Barge, which you whine about, a source already in the article, the subject's IMDB page, showed multiple credits over the last decade, mostly music writing credits, but also onscreen appearances in news shows and documentaries. You didn't bother to check. You also didn't bother to do a simple Google search. If you had, you would also have found a recent newspaper interview. Few newspapers interview people who aren't definitely living. Face the truth, JPL, your indolent, slipshod editing and searching practices are corrosively damaging to this encyclopedia. You've already been responsible for one of Wikipedia's worst public embarrassments. Your attitude seems to be that you're such a special, privileged editor that those who disagree with you must prove their points and explain them to your satisfaction before altering your work. That's not the case. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 03:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
      • The above is exactly the totally rude and uncalled for attacks that I am talking about. I did not intentionally misspell anything, and bringing it up in that way is exactly the type of rude, uncalled for behavior that is being exhibited here. Then there is the downright character assasination and the false trying to blame me for both starting the category Category:American women novelists and by implication being the one who put Amy Tan and other notable women novelists in this category and not in Category:American novelists. Both of those are outright lies, and that nearly 8 years later people are attacking me for it is an outrage. I see no reason to comment on the talk page of someone who is both so rude and so willing to just insult other people and starts with an extreme assumption of bad faith.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I do agree with Johnpacklambert, that some of the statements or comments you made are borderline rude and are uncalled for, I believe as adults we can be civil when trying to make our points, JPL has been bullied so many times & its really a shame seeing as he is one of the few editors here who is actually putting in work and effort. I do understand your frustrations, but I do believe there are better ways to make your points without that 'tone' as you know we are all volunteers here and to be nice to one another especially long standing editors isn’t too much to ask. I hope you both settle your differences amicably. Celestina007 (talk) 18:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Message

Happy new year, please help me go through this page and let me know your thought Wofai Fada Amosflash (talk) 20:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Amosflash, the subject of the article (Wofai Fada) simply is not notable, her role in oloture is at best negligible, she wasn’t the lead or supporting actor, Sharon Ooja and Omowunni dada were, she also makes cameos in other movies she has featured in thus far so per WP:NACTOR she doesn’t qualify. She has won no significant award neither has she been nominated for one so per WP:ANYBIO she doesn’t qualify. A general google search shows she doesn’t possess in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources, so per WP:GNG she doesn’t qualify also. I’m afraid she isn’t worthy of a standalone article at the moment. I’m almost tempted to nominate the article for deletion because I don’t see the subject becoming notable in the foreseeable future & incubation at this point in time doesn’t seem feasible because like I said I don’t see her becoming notable anytime soon, however, in other not to discourage you I would move the article back to Draftspace. There are a plethora of deceased notable Nigerian individuals you can choose to write about which are of encyclopedic value, an example of an encyclopedic article would be an article I created named Clifford Orji such articles are of immense value. I’m generally skeptical of articles on actors,musicians, organizations, businessmen, as in such areas it is easy for Indian and Nigerian editors or any editor for that matter irrespective of nationality to perpetuate UPE. I’m going ahead to draftify the article, please when you are done, submit it via the WP:AFC process. Aha!!!! Lest I forget visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria and scroll to the part which says request for uncreated articles which is a list of notable Nigerians who don’t have biographical articles on them & start create articles on them because invariably they are always notable persons, Thank you for understanding. Celestina007 (talk) 21:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of Erica Nlewedim

Hi Celestina, Thank you for the work you do at Wiki. I started working on the page Erica Nlewedim and noted that you voted to delete the page last year as she did not meet the notability criteria. I have since updated the page with citations and will appreciate a review of status. Erica has a vast portfolio when compared to 2 other Big Brother Naija housemates who have wiki pages. Kindly help review it. Thank you. --Kemmiiii (talk) 01:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kemmiiii, I have rejected your submission. Being famous & notable aren’t the same thing, she is famous but not notable. I also do not appreciate the fact that you are an spa dedicated solely to the subject of your article, you may not use Wikipedia as a means of promotion. Please relay this message to your client/friend or whatever she is to you. Celestina007 (talk) 02:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Celestina, I am a fan of hers and consider her notable especially in Nigeria. Kindly read about the Elite League. I will like you to reconsider considering the fact that [[1]] and [[2]] both have viable Wiki pages and she's more notable than them from the same show. Kindly review and reconsider. Thank you. She also meets the WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG criteria --Kemmiiii (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemmiiii (talk • contribs) 02:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kemmiiii, the links you provided aren’t showing any page, who & who exactly are you referring to? Celestina007 (talk) 03:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Laycon 'Olamilekan Moshood Agbeleshe'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laycon and Prince Nelson Enwerem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Enwerem Kemmiiii (talk) 03:15, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kemmiiii, the former won the show, the latter was Mr.Nigeria at some point in time so I don’t see how Erica Nlewedim tops that. Celestina007 (talk) 05:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

She was disqualified from the show and was miss photogenic during most beautiful girl in Nigeria 2014. Besides, she has a movie streaming on Netflix which has its own Wiki page. May I point out that Big Brother America Contestants like Diane Henry and Erika Landin both have Wiki pages despite only being known for only big brotherKemmiiii (talk) 07:34, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kemmiiii, I don’t know how else to tell you that fame and notability aren’t one and the same, this Erica individual is simply not not notable enough for Wikipedia. You have had two AFC submissions declined and rejected. I suggest you read WP:GNG, WP:RS, & WP:NACTOR, honestly you are beginning to become a burden. Are you here to carter only to this Erica individual or are you here to build an encyclopedia? If the former is your reason you can let me know now so I’d report your account for being a Single purpose promo only account. Kindly tell your client, seeing as you have numerous images of her I can’t seem to find anywhere on the internet that unfortunately she isn’t notable yet to warrant a Wikipedia biographical article. Hell, even Tacha from last season doesn’t have one, do you see how serious & high our notability threshold is here? You are more likely to get a Twitter and instagram blue check than you are to get an article on Wikipedia, we don’t play here. Celestina007 (talk) 08:47, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your responses. I guess I’ll continue updating till she’s notable enough. Kemmiiii (talk) 08:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of EMB3Rs

Hi Celestina007,

I am writing you regarding the EMB3Rs page you nominated for speedy deletion. I see it was already deleted and would like to kindly ask to retrieve the deleted material for improvement of the page which I would then like to submit for review. As reason for deletion you noted "potential promotion of company, group, product, service, person, or point of view". I understand that this is your concern, but let me assure you that this is not our intention. EMB3Rs is an EU-funded research project. It means that it is funded with tax payer money. So the idea behind a wikipage for this particular research project is to inform the public about how money is spent and what the results/benefits are. Hence, I gladly optimise the page for that purpose until it meets all the wikipedia requirements during the review process.

Thank you for your help and kind regards, Melanie at ESCI (talk) 07:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi

@Celestina007 ,2 days ago you rejected the publishing of "Erica Nlewedim" page..please may I know what went wrong so that I can edit Justfrankleen (talk) 09:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

HI

@Celestina007 I saw you rejected the publishing of a page "Erica Nlewedim". Please may I know what went wrong so that I can fix it. It's urgent Justfrankleen (talk) 09:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@Justfrankleen, why & how is it urgent if I may ask? Celestina007 (talk) 09:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@Justfrankleen, no, I didn’t ask you to 'thank me' for my question, i asked the question expecting a reply. Celestina007 (talk) 12:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Kemmiiii sock ring

They are not just Kemmiii or Justfrankleen, there are more users under the ring. They are Cruiserforlife, Ehizodenoria, HoneyCrispAppleMan, and Lukepicardkirk. You can tell that they're probably the same person by looking at the userpages. They are certainly paid to some extent. They are here since last year. Just recently, I reverted their edits on Sallie Mae, with the intention of promoting the company I believe. MarioJump83! 09:29, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@MarioJump83, thank you for bringing this to my notice, you are very much apt, it’s annoying I missed them but it appears the good @Drmies:, already took care of them by serving each of them blocks. Celestina007 (talk) 17:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

I hope I served them properly, haha. The real question is, but Celestina I'll leave this to you, how they should be tagged. I think Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anniebisilolo, given what appears to be paid editing on a relatively narrow set/type of articles. But keep in mind, on Mer-c's talk page I linked a few socks with each other; I couldn't link them to a master, so that's not, strictly speaking, CU-confirmed as one or the other master. Drmies (talk) 17:07, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Drmies:, hmmm, although (@Anniebisilolo), was editing in a similar manner to the new socks I doubt he is the master sock here or even affiliated with this new socks. If I were to make an informed guess I’d say the new socks aren’t related to Anniebisilolo, as he was vehemently promoting a rival of Erica Nlewedim. Whoever created the first Erica Nlewedim article imho may just be the master sock but as the article has been deleted I can’t view the original creator nor can I view who drafted the second and third one. The recent multiple spa’s socks were due to off wiki canvassing on Twitter spearheaded ferociously by this individual @Justfrankleen and his seditious comments “Erica Nlewedim must get an article today at all cost blah blah” type of speeches(most of which he has deleted) (looking him up was pretty simple, same username & all) This message showed he did have a financial stake in the creation of the article but he definitely wasn’t the one that created the original article nor drafted the second and third one, whoever did, is likely to be the master sock. I’m sure somewhere here the master sock could be discovered. Celestina007 (talk) 18:09, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Still on this Erica issue

Some persons were bent on adding her to Covenant University notable alumni section, and it was reverted severally within 24 hours. Then Dangbenzy added it again and stated that anyone that reverts him "...Ogun will kill him...", not like I believe that Ogun has powers, but I decided not to engage the page then reported to AIV. Admins refused to sanction him, instead said that he was not warned. How can someone say you will be dead if you revert his edit, and nothing is done?????? How is that not a violation of WP:THREATEN?? Not even a strong warning! HandsomeBoy (talk) 09:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy, hahaha as one with Indian and Nigerian heritage Im very superstitious & believe Ogun definitely has powers lmaooo. Okay, jokes apart. I believe the AIV decision was good but I feel even better was you going straight to WP:AN/I to report the editor. Any form of death threat is dealt with a block. Every year we face this same Bullshit, Alex vs CC, Mercy vs Tacha & now Nengi vs Erica. It’s so fucking irritating. Celestina007 (talk) 16:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

You actually made me smile with your introductory sentence, shows that you will be a great mediator especially in heated situations. And I needed that smile, because I was a little unhappy before. I agree with you, but I do not intend to take it up, hopefully Dangbenzy gets the message. HandsomeBoy (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for what I said. I really didn't mean that, I was just pissed at the back and forth from those changesDangbenzy (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

That's fine, go and sin no more! :) HandsomeBoy (talk) 15:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy, you quoting John 8:11 has to be funniest thing I’ve seen on the internet today. Lmaooo Celestina007 (talk) 17:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

hahahaha....you are probably a better Bible scholar than I am. I knew it was inspired by a statement from the Bible, but didn't even know the exact verse! HandsomeBoy (talk) 19:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy, yeah, i teach the scriptures to teens and youths on Sunday's in my house. But fuck it!! I’m currently smoking cigarettes because Manchester United just pissed me the fuck off. How the fuck do you concede a goal in 90+5 minutes???? I’m Fucking pissed right now. Celestina007 (talk) 22:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

hahahaha....previously, I said you made me smile, but right now, I am really laughing out loud. But seriously, I am no prophet, but you will probably be needing several cartons of cigarettes this season if nothing changes. I would have ordered you some, if I knew your home address. And yes, I actually mean it! Up Liverpool btw.HandsomeBoy (talk) 12:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy, it seems like despite our lackluster performance against the The Toffees we still be una oga. So please be calming down with that “Up Liverpool” but tbh, this has been one unpredictable season & at this juncture “I cannot can anymore” I literally have lost all my abilities to can. Celestina007 (talk) 17:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

hahahhaha.....I agree with you, but las las, I still think Liverpool are better equipped to finish ahead of United though.even though we lost today. HandsomeBoy (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

HandsomeBoy, before we get slammed for any Higi-Haga, Man Utd just dey fuck up back to back. Safe to say we just handed the title to this Werey people jk jk, but oh well I guess it’s back to smoking cigarettes lmaooo. Celestina007 (talk) 21:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for Cancelling Deletion of We Care STL Page

Hi Celestina007,

I hope you are doing well. I just saw your comment on We_Care_STL,_Inc. and I understand your concerns. The nonprofit organization has visitors to its website and a completed and fully functional page and was also recently featured in a news article by STL Magazine (https://www.stlmag.com/health/we-care-stl-health-insurance/), a prominent magazine in St. Louis with high domain authority. Additionally, all the facts in the Wikipedia page are cited by credible sources, including the magazine as well as the Missouri Secretary of State's office. Could you please provide more details as to how this article violates the Wikipedia Terms? The organization has received quite a presence in St. Louis and has already been partnering with various medical clinics, nonprofit organizations and education institutions. Is there anything else you would like to be added to the Wikipedia page for We Care STL to give it more substance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsahinid (talk • contribs) 21:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vsahinid, unfortunately, links to the company's website aren’t considered a reliable source for substantiating notability claims as they aren’t independent of the organization. Furthermore, an organization or an NGO needs to have in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources. You may checkout WP:NGO, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV when you can. In summary the organization in question as of now isn’t reliable enough to have a Wikipedia article on it. Furthermore the source you just made reference is too close to the subject of the AFD for it to be considered reliable in this scenario/context. Celestina007 (talk) 22:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Celestina007. The STL Magazine website is independent of the organization but I understand the need to have more coverage as reliable sources. Would I be able to open the article back up later in the future once it is deleted if there is more in-depth coverage of reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsahinid (talk • contribs) 23:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vsahinid, yes you can, furthermore, I see you declared a COI, I don’t know in what capacity that is, but if it is a financial stake you need to state so clearly. See WP:PAID & follow what is outlined there. Celestina007 (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

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Just a note

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		Hello Celestina007, Just a note to say Thank you! Autopatrolled granted Thanks for the push and the recommendation you left on my request surely that helped in getting me the right. Thanks a lot! I hope to do a good job. Certainly if I need any clarifications I would drop by. Thanks a lot!!! Ampimd (talk) 16:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, Awwwnn thanks a lot this made me blush. It’s no biggie really I felt you were qualified enough for the right & putting in a good word for you was what any decent person should do. If you ever need anything I’m always here. Celestina007 (talk) 19:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Request and Nomination of my article for undeletion Siva Sivani Institute of Management

Hi Celestina,

I saw your notification on Siva Sivani Institute of Management article that belongs to us. I just want to point out that I have not Copyright it from anywhere. SSIM is our client and we thought to place it in Wikipedia to help users to know more information. so kindly consider this issue that hasn't copied.

Please revert me back ASAP.

Thank You. Mercy k (talk) 07:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Re: Mohamed Younis Ahmed Al-Manfi

Thank you but "Agenzia Nova" is a reliable source, even if in italian. Can you restore the article? I will add new sources soon (one of them: [3]) --Pietro Di Fontana (talk) 17:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Pietro Di Fontana, I’m sorry but I can’t make heads or tails of what you are saying but if an article you created got deleted, then contacting the admin who deleted the article is what you ought to do but unfortunately that isn’t me as I’m not an admin. Sorry for your troubles. Celestina007 (talk) 17:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Pietro Di Fontana, Are you talking about Draft:Mohamed Younis Ahmed Al-Manfi? Okay let me review it. Ah! I see, I just checked your tp & observed it was I who moved it to Draft because it was either not sourced at all or probably just had one source at that point in time. I’d work on it now. Celestina007 (talk) 19:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Pietro Di Fontana,  Done, your article has been accepted, in the articles you may want to create in future please feel free to optimize google books to search for reliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 19:36, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

hii Celestina007

Hi I think he is doing wrong about Deniz UNAY article Because Deniz UNAY is known and known as Social Media Expert He is not a phenomenon, he shares his articles and works about himself on social media accounts. www.twitter.com/denizunay https://www.instagram.com/deniz_unay_/?hl=en My request from you Please help with this article If the subject of this article had not deserved Wikipedia, it would not have been discussed for 4.5 months. Greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 09:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Emremer, I’m sorry but fame & popularity do not equate nor translate to notability. Celestina007 (talk) 18:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Kindly reply

Hey, I have Noticed that you have put the Draft Article Irfan Junejo for Speedy deletion Because Its Promotion. I would Like tell you that You can Search Irfan Junejo on Google he a Famous Vlogger and I have putten Reliable sources like Ted Talk, Ary, Samaa These are some of the Biggest one Airrack1 (talk) 13:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Hello, how are you? Look at the article is well written, also would consider that you will observe this article with little information and without many references that prove its permanence by Wikipedia Richard Holzer if they delete mine they should also delete that without relevance. Secretsgenius (talk) 18:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Secretsgenius, no, I wouldn’t do such. Celestina007 (talk) 00:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Administrators overstepping their bounds

I am really frustrated with this situation, but do not know what exactly to do. Back around the start of December I nominated Category:Imperial Russian people and its well over 100 sub-cats for renaming. People sniped at me about now initially nominating all over 100 categories. No one assisted me in tagging it, they just obstructed the change until I did. It took me over a week to nominate all the categories. After that it sat in discussion for over a month. Every single person who commented on the proposal supported it. Then an administrator came in, insisted that instead of becoming Category:Russian Empire people it should be Category:People of the Russian Empire. He created a little more discussion, most people did not even recomment and most who did had no opinion one way of the other but two said that the reccomended name was better, and I vigorously opposed it. On the grounds of this that same administrator renamed the article. To me this seems to be an editor using their position as administrator to impose their own will unilaterally without consensus. The whole thing very much frustrates me. I was going to try to bring up a higher level review, but I am not sure how to do that. On the other hand, since any open review is turned into a free for all of lobbing character assasinations against me, I am not sure I really want to do that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@Johnpacklambert, it’s forlorn how you are treated here but nonetheless it takes nothing from the fact that you are a great editor & definitely one of the most special editors in Wikipedia's history. Celestina007 (talk) 00:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

• Thankyou for that. My unwisest move over the last week was checking my email while I was out in public and finding the start of the most recent administrative attack on me for having too many articles I nominate for deletion be kept. I need to learn how not to internalize some of these issues. The way things worked out there are really bad. I probably over reacted. It is so frustrating.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft Falguni Nayar

Hi, what might have been the reason for putting the AfC approved Draft Draft Falguni Nayar back to Draft - you mentioned a possible COI on their talk page, I saw honestly no direct popup or hint for a COI/NPOV suspicion. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford, I believe I explicitly said so here. Ah! I see now that it was you who accepted the draft. In any case, like I said I moved it back to Draft for what I’d call “under the cloud covert UPE” which is best discussed off-wiki. However the notability threshold is met. Celestina007 (talk) 18:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Giving feedback

Hello, I thank you for giving feedback on my talk page and in this article. I suppose the feedback is about red linking to Tikka T1x from other Sako .22 LR rifles in the see also section. I thank you, and this is valuable feedback.

I would however also like to give feedback on your feedback here on your talk page as well. I feel your feedback was a bit harsh. It wouldn't hurt adding a "please" before the "don't", and I felt the "I won’t tell you again" phrase was completely unnecessary as it implies there would be a consequence. So I am wondering, what would the consequence be? A ban?

Remember we are all doing this volunatarily. I have over 10 000 edits and enjoy contributing to Wikipedia.

I seldom get harsh feedback here, and would probably not bother writing as much if I did. It is not fun to get talked to in a commanding and hostile tone, and I believe the same useful points of the feedback could have been get across in a more civil and friendly manner with even better results. Hostile feedback to other editors may even result in them engaging on instinct in defiance, as a natural human reflex, which is unproductive to everyone involved.

When giving feedback it could also be helpful to link to a relevant guideline (for example WP:NOTSEEALSO in this case) as support. You were right in this case, but regardless, linking to relevant guidelines in such discussions can give a sense of security to both the giver and receiver of feedback that we are leaning on guidelines and not personal opinions.

Hope you see how your feedback may be percepted by others. Sauer202 (talk) 09:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Sauer202, Of course I know I was right, i told you the first time in a very jovial manner not to add red links to see also sections and I proceeded to remove the red links & what did you do? You chose the WP:IDHT route and re-included them. That is blatant disruptive editing. I’m not your guardian & I’m certainly not obliged to beg you to follow simple instructions or link you to policy pages. Furthermore please when signing don’t start a new line/paragraph. Celestina007 (talk) 10:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I've moved my signature above back to the last line - thank you for the feedback.

First: I honestly did not notice that edit by you before you pointed it out just now. If I did, I would never have reintroduced the link in this edit. I am sorry, but it seems that your feedback in the edit history "drowned" in a series of later edits by me in an effort to disambiguate the article. I have learned that red links should not go into the see also section.

My focus was on the article content of Sako Finnfire, Sako Quad, Sako Finnfire II and SAKO in order to bring these up to a level of good quality, both in the Norwegian and English Wikipedia, not paying attention to reading the corresponding page histories while performing a series of edits in a short time frame. Of course I understand that you could not know that, and by looking at the editing history I see how it might appear like I "refused to get the point". I hope you can trust me on this, but I understand if you may never believe me. While I would probably have got back to these articles today, look at the Finnfire history, and get the point, I still appreciate your feedback on my talk page so that the matter was solved quickly. Thank you!

However, my feedback to you was really about the process, not the underlying reasons and outcome. For the record, it is also subjective if that message (which I did not notice) was jovial. And in your last comment above, it in my opinion it would be better to state that you viewed my re-inclusion of the red link as a disruptive edit. Your reply as it stands now may be read as to imply that my editing in general is disruptive here on Wikipedia. I'm not begging you to link to policy pages, and you may not be obliged to, but I view it as good practice. I'm not asking for a guardian. But rough language is a perfect way to lose contributors. Everyone do mistakes, and linking to policy pages facilitates learning, and lowers conflict level for everyone involved. You would still have gotten your point across!

I appreciate your work, and see how this helps bring up the level of Wikipedia to a good quality. Hope you understand that this was an honest mistake. Sauer202 (talk) 10:57, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Sauer202, I believe you, overall and coupled with what you have just stated above it does seem plausible that you re-introducing them was a honest mistake. If you want, you can create new articles on firearms and when you are done you can ping me to review them for you. Btw, thank you for your new articles. Celestina007 (talk) 11:30, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

No worries, and thank you. :) Sauer202 (talk) 13:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Keiser Corporation

Hi, in your AFD, I noticed that you indicated a "covert UPE," and I didn't want to run afoul of anything, so I wanted to check with you. I was working with someone from the company on this as a favor to a former coworker who now works at Keiser. I do not work for Keiser and was asked to work on this as an uninvolved third party who is familiar with Wikipedia. Could you please provide guidance on whether and how I should disclose this relationship? Thanks, LaMenta3 (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Are you saying that former coworker of yours asked you to create this article? or are you saying the organization as an entity via a representative asked you to create the article? I guess the question I’m trying to ask is, who exactly hired you for this favour? Celestina007 (talk) 20:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Someone from the company who is not my former co-worker reached out to me at my former co-worker's recommendation because he knows I've been a Wikipedia editor on and off for a long time. In any case, I have made a disclosure on my userpage just in case my editing this content on their behalf is an issue. LaMenta3 (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

In that case you are indirectly working on-behalf of the organization. You know the drill, WP:COIDISCLOSE should apply in this case & WP:PAID should apply also if you are accepting any reward, even if not financially. Anyway by now you ought to know better than edit in areas you have a COI with, let alone create a whole non notable article on. It just oozes of bad faith undisclosed paid editing. Celestina007 (talk) 20:35, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It honestly didn't occur to me that taking on a request/suggestion for editing from people within my professional network constituted a conflict of interest, particularly since I've never actually worked at the company, and I accepted because I thought it was interesting. I assure you that I did nothing in bad faith and just wanted to help someone out even though I only edit on a rare occasion anymore when the mood strikes me. Like I said, I've already added the disclosure to my page because I don't want trouble just because I jumped the gun on something I thought would be fun without thinking about any potential conflicts. LaMenta3 (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Juicy ML

Please don't delete the article. help me publish it im begging you with good faith. and please close the deletion discussion. i was paid to write the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IWasMadeWalker (talk • contribs) 01:07, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

in your AFD, I noticed that you indicated a "covert UPE," and I didn't want to run afoul of anything, so I wanted to check with you. I was working with someone from the company on this as a favor to a former coworker who now works at Keiser. I do not work for Keiser and was asked to work on this as an uninvolved third party who is familiar with Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IWasMadeWalker (talk • contribs) 01:09, 15 February 2021 (UTC) 

Archiving your talk page?

It's totally up to you, but the page has been going on for years and due to your valiant attempts to improve the encyclopedia and foil promotional editing, many threads have been created. That makes it take more time to load on slower internet connections and can be difficult to scroll through depending on the type of device and layout. If you do want to archive your page, just paste {{subst:User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThis}} at the top and the bot will take care of it. (t · c) buidhe 01:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@buidhe, thanks mate, I probably would have to do that sooner than later, I think it was @Usernamekiran who mentioned this to me last year. but i think having to sieve through archives to look for information seems arduous(just my imagination maybe) & my current archaic method of scrolling through my tp seems a lot easier idk really, but if it is becoming a burden I’d have no other option than to start the bot archive thing. Thanks for the kind words. Celestina007 (talk) 01:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

As I said, it's completely up to you whether to archive or not. I do and I've never had an issue finding anything because only old stuff is archived and the archive box on my talk page (example at right) allows me to search through all archives at once. (t · c) buidhe 01:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe, sounds fair enough, I’d have to give it a try sometime then definitely sooner than later. Celestina007 (talk) 01:48, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

it is very cumbersome to navigate through your tp Celestina. Yes, I had suggested you about archiving a while back. If I am right, you had said you werent archiving it for new users or something like that. But currently, it is particularly difficult for new users, and specially for anyone who is on mobile. Courtrsy ping to buidhe. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, I recommend sigmabot to you, over cluebot. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@usernamekiran, hello dear friend, ummmm I think the reason I gave (& would still give) is/was that I found it quite easy to navigate through my talk page rather than sieving through archives to retrieve certain information. Celestina007 (talk) 22:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

SoftSwiss

Dear Celestina007,

Thank you for reviewing my first Wikipedia article on SoftSwiss. First, I truly believe in the important goal of Wikipedia to promote free online encyclopedia which is maintained by a community of volunteer editors. And this is exactly what I was thinking to myself when I wrote the article.

As for your decision to nominate my article for deletion because it allegedly breaches the notability guidelines, I must admit that I don't agree with you. I noted my counter-claim regarding the notability issue that you have raised in the relevant AfD page.

On a personal note, I worked very hard to create my first article on Wikipedia, while sticking to Wikipedia's writing guidelines and using legitimate sources. I took the time to review articles on similar companies and I've found mine to be better than some. I have plenty of examples: Endorphina, Ramco Systems, Rediff.com, Sasken Technologies and Onward Technologies - If the articles on these companies have been published and still exist on Wikipedia, there could be place for my article as well.

I would appreciate your honest response, and please don't delete the article until a fair discussion will be completed.

Thank you, --Bigball79 (talk) 15:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bigball79, I cannot & nobody can unilaterally delete the aforementioned article when the AFD is still ongoing, it is until a consensus is reached at the AFD only then can a sysop delete the article if the consensus is that, so no need to worry about anyone randomly deleting your article when the AFD is still ongoing. I understand that you may have worked hard to create your first article, but unfortunately this is an archetype example of arguments to avoid in an AFD & it isn’t going to be put into consideration when deciding if or not the article is to be deleted. That simply isn’t how Wikipedia works, the amount of effort you put into creating an article is inconsequential if the article is on a non notable entity/subject. What does matter is ensuring you create an article that is notable & of which unfortunately this article of yours isn’t on a notable organization as they fail to satisfy WP:NCORP. This is why for relatively new editors submitting articles via the WP:AFC process is imperative & someday I wish be made mandatory. Furthermore, you also need to read both WP:PAID & WP:COI & adhere if they apply here. Celestina007 (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Celestina007 for your reply. I know that the fact that I worked hard on this article is not a valid argument, but I did feel the need to mention it. As for the WP:PAID & WP:COI, I understand your concern but I have no connection at all to this company nor to any person who is related to it; I'm contributing to Wikipedia because I believe in Wikipedia's values and found a good topic to write about. However, I do feel a bit confused about the WP:NCORP guidelines, because in my previous message to you, I listed several similar organizations that exist on Wikipedia and you did not provide any explanation on the difference between these articles and my article. On a practical level, may I suggest adding a Notability template box, thus letting other Wikipedia users to help demonstrating the notability of the topic. --Bigball79 (talk) 12:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey Celestina

Hi Celestina I don't receive pay for editing or creating articles and I was told that I could be blocked from editing if I don't disclose it please how do I say I don't receive payments?? ugochimobi (talk) 13:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ugochimobi, come on dude, you do realize you aren’t talking to morons right? Paid editing isn’t the transgression here, but undisclosed paid editing(lying/or not telling us about it) is what is. If you have received a reward or are expecting to receive a reward for creating an article all you have to do is let us know about it. It’s that simple, really. Celestina007 (talk) 16:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, Seriously I can't come to Wikipedia to lie, and trust me I can't take anyone on Wikipedia as morons if not for anything but being able to edit Wikipedia pages both in Source Editing and Virtual Editing... Seriously. I just found out about them online and thought of creating an article about them, I was never paid for creating or editing articles. Please pardon my manners on how I create them often and please remove the warnings, Dear. I can't just tell lies.ugochimobi (talk) 16:49, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ugochimobi, I believe you believe you sound convincing enough but no editor here was born last night, it’s really bad luck for any Nigerian editor engaging in UPE to cross my path, that’s really just tough luck. I’ve lived in Nigeria for 20+ years now and can tell notable from non non notable and trying to play me is just nigh impossible. Can you categorically state you do not(on a personal level) know at least one of the subject of your articles? I mean, your edit pattern was so questionable you attracted Deb who told you not to use Wikipedia for advertising. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to believe the story of you just discovering that anyone could edit Wikipedia and deciding to give it a try, then creating live articles immediately would be the worst possible way to start (take it from me, i was bashed left, right & center) If you have any other questions, please go to the WP:TEAHOUSE. Celestina007 (talk) 17:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007, I am so happy you could find a chance to understand me, Please don't be offended I am seriously not involved in UPE trust me. Thanks for you suggestions as well... Please do I have the warnings removed now???? :)ugochimobi (talk) 17:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ugochimobi, I deduce this pertains the WP:PAID violations warning you have been receiving(4 thus far) well, it is your own talk page and you can remove messages you don’t want there, however, it doesn’t automatically give you a clean slate as every edit is logged and wouldn’t change the fact that you have been issued a level 4 warning about violating WP:PAID, in-fact, removing the warnings pertaining to your paid status just puts your account and edits under a larger microscope, however the blanket answer is “yes” you can delete the warnings, mind you any other dubious article creation you make now would invariably earn you a block. Celestina007 (talk) 17:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Shall I just block the above user for spamming - it doesn't really matter whether it's paid or not. Are you putting in a sock report? Deb (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Deb, hello, please do & @Cjup also, who is an obvious sock of Ugochimobi. Celestina007 (talk) 18:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I wanted to say hello!!

Hi there! I'm new around here and I'd love to get to know you! :) Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@BoundlessElise, hello there, & welcome to the family. Pretty much everything you need to know about me is on my Userpage. I’m open to answer more personal questions from you, however, if you are a young editor, (arbitrarily I set that at 18 & younger) ensure never to give away personal information to anyone and even if older, not sharing your personal information is a good idea, as our edits here have real life consequences on a global scale. If you have any question or questions pertaining to editing in general you may ask me or if you like, for a faster response you may go directly to the WP:TEAHOUSE & ask your questions and it would be answered almost instantaneously. Once again, welcome to the family.Celestina007 (talk) 19:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I'm a wikiHow user by the same username, so Wikipedia editing should be easy. Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I change my username to reflect my real name? I signed up with my pseudonym but now I want to change my username to reflect my birth name :) Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I changed my username! Thanks for the help :D Aditi (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Chatted On my page

celestina007 Hello Bro, First I wanna apologize for the way I spoke to you on my page. Sincerely I'm sorry. Please you need to help me keep the two pages District FM and Sandra Idubor I just need guidelines to make this article okay. I feel bad when my hard work is been condemned. You have to help me, bro. ThanksInnocentuzoma (talk) 09:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Re-read or not? You are in this desperate condition because like you stated, you have already accepted rewards for the creation of both articles & now they are going to be invariably deleted you feel trapped, hence my advise to you to return the gifts. I really can’t be of help because the articles aren’t on notable subjects. I literally can not help even if I wanted to, I honestly feel bad for you & i’m concerned about your safety more than anything else, I also don’t buy the story that you don’t reside in Nigeria, but that is irrelevant, tbh just return the gifts to them immediately and free your mind and most importantly, ensure your own safety. Nigerians (now more than ever) aren’t joking around with their money or gifts. Of course, to listen to me or not is entirely your prerogative. I wouldn’t address this again. Celestina007 (talk) 10:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Done updating

Hi, Cele. I am done updating the draft Draft:Emmanuel Nuhu Kure. I hope it's well done! Kambai Akau (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

hello, i did take a second look & unfortunately i can’t accept it at this moment. Frankly speaking I don’t think you followed the advice i left on your tp. There seems to be a lot of ref bombing with what’s best described as fake referencing, for example this source as many other sources listed in the article don’t even name drop the subject of the article. At this point I’d leave it to another uninvolved reviewer to make the decisions. Another problem is, some of the book sources used were written by the article’s subject himself and some of the other sources are definitely paid for. In order not to poison the well, I’m leaving this comment here & not at the AFC itself, giving an uninvolved reviewer the chance to make their own decisions. I hope you do understand. Celestina007 (talk) 23:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Paid for! Okay o. No problems. I would really appreciate help on this article. Truly. But, I would also want to say this... I, Kambai Akau, see the creation of articles as part of community service. If I am not able to give in cash, I give in works without expecting even a thank you from anyone because I really don't care so much about people's testimony about my mortal self. Once I feel happy doing it, I do it. Once I know another would find it useful, I do it, even when I stress my body to do it. Money is wonderful. But integrity is indispensable. When I write an article, I try as much as possible to see it survive. But where my skills lag, I learn. Please, don't get tired of me, I learn slowly at times. Kambai Akau (talk) 19:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kambai Akau, I actually like your sense of humor, I’d work on it tonight & it would be published before 12:00. Celestina007 (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Glad you like it. 😊 Thanks indeed! Kambai Akau (talk) 21:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kambai Akau,  Done your article has been accepted and published. Celestina007 (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! I won't have done it any better than this, though. I am humbled! Kambai Akau (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Sooraj Surendran

Hi Celestina007,

I remember that you said you had experience with potential UPE and puffery problems on WP, particularly with entrepeuneurs from Nigeria or India. Could you please take a look at this article, in particular, this old revision, before I removed some of the more obviously counterfactual claims? I'm concerned that it might be a UPE problem as it was created by a new user who has since not contributed substantially elsewhere on the project, and especially since the article when I encountered it read like an advertisement for their products. I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have.

Best, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, Although I can’t say it’s UPE for sure but it’s pretty much overt that there’s a COI & your best move might be to take it the COIBOARD, & simultaneously, if you feel the subject isn’t notable you can also nominate the article for deletion. Celestina007 (talk) 19:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Celestina007, it looks like NeethuRafale else has since reverted the grammar and prose changes to reflect the edits as linked in the permlink above. Like the article's creator, this user has no contributions outside of the AfD on Sooraj Surendran, or the article itself. I'm wondering if an SPI would be appropriate. Any thoughts? Warmly, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 17:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, this looks like sock puppetry, opening an SPI might prove pertinent. Would you be willing to open the SPI? I would have myself, but I’m currently doing too many things at the same time. Celestina007 (talk) 17:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007 Collecting the diffs now. Best, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 18:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, Ah, great then. Celestina007 (talk) 18:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Yoyo Ovi

Hello Celestina007, just a heads up, Anonymous Jona looks like a SPA, with first edit made to this article and even removed the AfD template. --Ashleyyoursmile! 14:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile, I’d look into it as soon as possible & tackle it accordingly. Celestina007 (talk) 16:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing, thanks. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Comment of Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson

You left a comment on my draft accusing me of being paid. Quite frankly I haven't been paid to draft it and neither have I been paid to edit any articles I've contributed to in my four months on Wikipedia. Your suspicions stem from a comment I left on someone else's talk page. It came from a place of seeking approval that the draft was good enough for resubmission and not the way you interpreted it at all. Your accusation was grave and discredits all the effort I'm putting into bettering the draft and other editsm I found it somewhat offensive. I was not paid, but at this point I wish I was so that the discredit wouldn't bother me. But I wasn't and I don't plan on making anyone pay me to contribute to Wikipedia at any point in time. I'm just the average Wikipedia user. -Best regards Justice Faith (talk) 09:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Justice Faith, you do yourself a disservice by being dishonest, when being truthful would save you from an indef block coming your way for violating our WP:PAID policy. Celestina007 (talk) 09:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow! This is actually heartbreaking. What exactly did I do to make you think I'm paid?? Also kindly guide me on how I can disprove your presumption. Is there a Wikipedia administrators email where I can send Identification proof. Isn't there a procedure for rebuttal of such false claims. Cause I'm ready to go through procedure since you think I'm telling lies.

I don't even know any of the subjects personally. I've just seen them on television and made research. I'm not even Nigerian to begin with so by what means would someone jump from Nigeria to pay a Ugandan to draft an article?

Again if you don't believe me, just guide me on the procedure of contesting these claims Justice Faith (talk) 10:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I’d rather not, if I told you how I nab undisclosed paid editing it would make it much easier for you to evade scrutiny next time. Honestly, I wouldn’t be entertaining any questions from you anymore & that article is never going to be accepted into this collaborative project & would be held at AFC until you disclose your COI. Do you know how many times I’ve heard such tales? Do you know how long I’ve been doing this? Furthermore Nobody needs to see your ID as that may constitute WP:OUTING & endangering your own self. I am however happy to share my knowledge with functionaries & afc reviewers. Celestina007 (talk) 10:30, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Just do me a favor and delete the draft. I'd rather have it deleted than be accused falsely and made to accept something I didn't even know was possible on this particular platform.

Wouldn't have wasted hours of my time if I knew how unfair you editors are. You have no proof, you're busy judging me from your past experience. Painting me a liar and you won't even let me provide any proof against these accusations.

Have a nice time falsely accusing people on here ❤️ and help me delete it since I'm a liar Justice Faith (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Justice Faith, an inexperienced inept liar to be precise, & I do have proof, too bad I’m not going to be sharing it with an inept UPE editor.Celestina007 (talk) 10:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay❤️ Justice Faith (talk) 11:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 12:02:00, 7 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by JudeJnr

• JudeJnr (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Oxlade (singer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi @Celestina007:, according to your review. You stated "The subject of the article isn’t notable notjustyet". According to notjustyet, a subject is considered "NOTJUSTYET" if it fails the Notability guideline. The subject appears to be notable, being nominated twice at the The Headies. Covered on reliable sources, as followed: [4], [5], [6] [7], [8], [9], [10] and also his releases has also been covered on reliable sources: [11], [12], leaving the subject notable enough, and meeting the following guidelines; WP:SINGER, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:GNG. I have, made adjustment on all the comments made on the article, and I believe the subject is notable enough to be tagged notjustyet.

JudeJnr (talk) 12:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Query on Anusha Rai moved to draftspace

Hi Celestina007, thanks for the attention. The subject is a TV and film actress. Acted in multiple languages - Kannada, Telugu, Malyalam. The reliable secondary resources are available in the following local langauge newspaper (digital, print both) and in English both.

• Vijaya Karnataka Kannada Newspaper
• News18 Kannada
• Udayavani, Kannada Daily News Paper
• The Times of India - English
• The Indian Express- English
• Deccan Chronicle - English
• Bangalore Mirror - English

In the above list, The Times of India - English, The Indian Express- English - are also considered reliable or perennial sources of Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Sources). My query is whether the coverage in local langauge is not taken into consideration? The menntioned local newspapes have a high ciruclation or readeship in the region she belongs to. If not, there are 4 english newspapers also talking about the subject's contribution to the entertainment industry, are they not sufficient? Emerging artists gradaully get coverage with more releases, and she will too. Can we restore the page, and keep improving it as new notable incidents took place? thank you Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of an article

Hey Celestina007 I came across this Ghanaian article Reuben Griffiths Bekoe, looks like someone just created it out of sheer will of knowing the person but in my opinion and from what I have searched on the article, it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability tag and references on the article are poor. Can you have a look at it, I want a second opinion on it, and if possible nominate it for deletion? Thanks Ampimd (talk) 10:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, so it was created by Jrwale in 2018 & has the file in the article listed as his “own work” which pretty much tells me at least more than half of what I need to know. The sourcing doesn’t appear to be there, I’m not sure how it has stayed on mainspace for this long. Celestina007 (talk) 17:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, it may interest you to know that following our discussion above I have nominated the article for deletion. Celestina007 (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 I guess my convictions were on point then. I was surprised it had also stayed on wikipedia for that long without anyone noticing it, thanks for nominating it. Ampimd (talk) 15:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper)

@Celestina007, Emiway Bantai has once declined (like an advertisement on reading). But I have fixed it now. Please review it. Please do not deny by giving any other reason, I hope so. 223.238.222.235 (talk) 11:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Praxidicae was the one who declined the draft and rightfully so. Celestina007 (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For a basketball player, you know how to keep a low profile when you need to  :) thanks for all your great work here, and I hope real life isn't being too oppressive right now. Cheers! ——Serial 16:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129, thanks for this show of affection which means a lot coming from you, who i always look up to. Real life has been fair thus far. It’s also a great delight to see you editing once again I unsuccessfully attempted to contact you during your break from editing. Glad to have you back and once again, thanks for this. Celestina007 (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice

@Celestina007 I sincerely did not know that other editors had try to create a page for Nengi. I recently joined the WikiProject; Women in Red and my aim is to create profiles for women, mostly Nigerians who deserve a page. You can check my userpage. I will NOT contest the deletion of the page or any other page that violates the community rules. I have no COI/UPE with the subject of this article or any other that I have created. It might turned out to be a good thing that I am on your list, it will guide me to become a better editor. Thank you. MesutOzula (talk) 23:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, I don’t disbelieve you believe you are making me to believe the story you just conjured. Well why don’t I AGF & move along right? Only time would tell. Celestina007 (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 The word conjured sound quite harsh for someone you have not met in person. If I conjure a story on a faceless community, of what benefit is that to either of us? Comments like that from experienced editors discourage those of us who are still trying to help here. Thank you.

@MesutOzula, this is the archetype & classic response from a/an UPE editor who isn’t new to Wikipedia. I wasn’t wrong after all. You all seem to forget that I wasn’t born last night. Furthermore please WP:SIGN your comments, deliberately forgetting to sign to feign a NEWBIE is also a useless, stupid tactic y’all use. Celestina007 (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Hahaha. You're a complete and an unapologetic conspiracy theorist. I took the time to read through your user page, from top to bottom. I can see that it is of no use arguing with you. Being exposed to such materials you have at your disposal and considering the amount of time you spent here, you will always most certainly win all arguments. I am learning from you though and I am not too ashamed to admit it. I have begun to see your harsh words as belts to buckle up, rather than scathing. I hope to keep the communication line opened though, as I will be needing more mentorship from you. I hope this meets you well. MesutOzula (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, Reverse psychology wouldn’t help here either and what exactly do you mean by materials at my disposal? Winning isn’t the goal here, the goal is to significantly destabilize UPE in Nigeria which I’m pretty good at. Calling me a conspiracy theorist constitutes NPA. The communication lines are always open, but let me remind you that I’ve been here long enough to tell when I’m being bullshitted, other non Nigerian editors may fall for your gimmicks but we both know that wouldn’t work on me, if you so much as create dubious articles any more you’d be blocked from editing here any further. Celestina007 (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Your point was made from the word go and has been taken accordingly. I will not be deterred as I consider this a necessary difficulty associated with Wikipedia editing. I shall continue to edit to the best of my knowledge. However, since I am not in Nigeria I will completely boycott any Wikipedia article related to Nigeria and maybe Africa completely. Enjoy the rest of your day/night Sir. Thank you. MesutOzula (talk) 01:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, again, reverse psychology isn’t going to work. Boycott articles on Nigerians all you want, as I stated earlier creating dubious articles would earn you a block regardless of your choice of articles even they are on non Nigerians. Policy mandates me to AGF, even though I clearly know what this is, if you are as clean as you claim then you shouldn’t even encounter me in the first place but per AGF I’m mandated to give you benefit of doubt. You mentioned to Timtrent that prior creating the Nengi Rebecca Hamson article that you have created decent articles in the past, i saw the articles you created & it was decent to be fair, but it isn’t out of character for Upe editors to begin with good articles then clandestinely switch to creating dubious articles, infact that is the MO of a relatively intelligent UPE editor. Ah, like Burnaboy said in Anybody “Wetin person never see Omo wetin person never see” & tbh I’ve seen it all. You Nigerians & Indian editors have thought me this. I wouldn’t be answering any more questions from you. Now allow me to read my Marvel comics in peace. Celestina007 (talk) 01:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 The word is actually Taught Sir, but I am sure it is a common error anybody would make. I won't bother you again. Thank you very Sir. MesutOzula (talk) 01:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, ahh yes indeed you are correct. I feel your pain but I’m not going to allow you perpetuate UPE either with this account or any other other account ever again. Celestina007 (talk) 14:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Flowers for you!

Thanks a million Ma'am for your review on my WP:BLP article on Priyanka Choudhary. These flowers are a small return to give you for my gratitude for the help that you have given.

I just have a small request, I had made a WP:BLP article on Hitesh Bharadwaj much earlier before Priyanka Choudhary and Puneett Chouksey, but no-one has given any review yet :(.

Is it possible that you can give your review on it? --Aleyamma38 (talk) 04:35, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

So the flowers weren’t for free after all? Alright let me see what I can do about those. Celestina007 (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38,  Done, Alright there you go, @fences and windows also helped out so you might want to thank them. Celestina007 (talk) 19:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million Ma'am for this support and this cake is again a small token of my love for reviewing the article Hitesh Bharadwaj.

So the flowers weren’t for free after all?

No no Ma'am, of course the flowers are free, the only thing is that, I don't know many people who reviews articles here, which is why I asked your help. My extreme apologies if I bothered you in that process.

Yes Ma'am, fences and windows did give a lot of support on my WP:BLP article on Puneett Chouksey and I did acknowledge it both on the talk page of that article and on fences and windows's talk page too :).--Aleyamma38 (talk) 16:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38, thanks for the cake, It’s funny cos i actually got a sweet tooth. I don’t usually do reviews on request, but it seems like you know how to source an article properly & I don’t see any imperative reason why I can’t be flexible every now and again, so in summary what I’m trying to say is if you create new articles, you can always notify me about them & ask me to review them. Celestina007 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million Ma'am for your generosity. Actually, I usually try my level best not to create WP:BLP articles because they are quite difficult and risky to make as we have to be very careful to see if subject attains all criteria of WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. So, I feel agitated until my article gets a review from one of the admins. It's was really a great pleasure of having met you and received your support as a admin who reviewed my WP:BLP articles. Ciao and have a great day Ma'am! :)--Aleyamma38 (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38, thanks for the kind words, I’m not an admin, a new page reviewer is what I am. No need to feel agitated just let me know anytime you create a new article & I’d review it for you. Celestina007 (talk) 14:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million again, Ma'am! --Aleyamma38 (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Afaka kidnapping

The name of article should be Afaka Kidnapping where the incident took place and not Kaduna which is the State. Other kidnapping incidents have taken place in Kaduna afterwards, one in a Primary school in Birnin Gwari where Teachers and Students were kidnapped. The Students were later confirmed not abducted by authorities. How many Kaduna kidnapping do you want to have? Important info like the number of abducted have been removed too. UtubeGodwin (talk)

@UtubeGodwin, I dont understand why you are complaining to me about this, I literally had nothing to do with that. I’m afraid I can’t be of help to you. Celestina007 (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

@TimothyBlue, Aye! thanks mate. I appreciate the message. Celestina007 (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Erae_AMS

Thanks for your feedback. I've streamlined references, dropping from sixteen to five which seem to support the article sufficiently. I've also tried to reword the article to adopt a more neutral tone, as you suggested. Would you take another look? 216.150.233.146 (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

question

I came across your comment here while compiling this start to an RFC I am planning. Specifically Thanks for calling my attention to this @Bkissin, I’d like to say without an iota of doubt that the Guardian Nigeria is definitely a reliable source as they possess a reputation for fact checking and possess editorial oversight and also state clearly when an article is written by a guest editor or a sponsored post. Celestina007 (talk) 2:06 pm, 19 November 2020, Thursday (3 months, 28 days ago) (UTC−5) and I'm curious if your thoughts are still the same? It does not appear to still be the case as I am increasingly running into blatant PR published under various journalists names in a variety of outlets, including the one discussed at RSN but it's literally a copy of other published articles from other media outlets. VAXIDICAE💉 15:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Praxidicae, sorry for the late response I’ve been feeling quite unwell in the last four days. This is a tough question to be honest as the Guardian Nigeria has always been considered a default Nigerian RS from the 90's up until recently as they have been given me cogent reason to doubt their genuineness. For example, the concerns you raised in your statement and to answer your question, my thoughts aren’t more the same. Celestina007 (talk) 19:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Improved Article

Good day Celestina007, I created Mudiwa Hood article and you moved it to draft space stating that it needed more references to meet notable persons guideline, thank you, your move helped me do deeper research to find out the person has more to his biography to add.

So here in Zimbabwe the sources included in the article are actually the top ones if you can research further and see. Mudiwa Hood is the biggest hip hop act in Zimbabwe, the most successful with over 40 awards and many nominations, he is indeed very notable in the country without any doubt.

I have added more information and more sources and I am kindly asking for the article to be published back into mainspace. Zvandofarira2 (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you kindly consider moving back Mudiwa Hood into mainspace. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mudiwa_Hood Zvandofarira2 (talk) 06:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

3Music Awards

Hi Celestina! Just a quick question if I may. I've noticed a recent surge in articles on people nominated for 3Music Awards. Namely, we have seen Yaw Tog, Nanky and KaySo (producer). What do you think about these people? They seem to have a notability claim that depends upon whether the 3Music Award nominations confer notability. I'm not familiar with this award and whether or not it is enough. I'm also unfamiliar with a lot of the sources cited. I have noted that you have already submitted Nanky for deletion, which seems fair enough. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone, hey there, the problem is the music award isn’t a major music award hence if an article’s subject has that award as a sole claim to notability then the subject of that article isn’t notable. Celestina007 (talk) 19:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

UTC)

@Spiderone, 3Music Awards is the second biggest music awards festival in Ghana aside the Vodafone Ghana Music Awards. You can kindly make your off Wikipedia search to confirm. Thanks 154.160.22.251 (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

We work differently

We also achieve the same end. You are more direct, I approach these matters with infinite kndness. The person who threw the stick may be about to discover that it turns into a boomerang. Fiddle Faddle 22:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent, you are correct. I should also mention that as a friend I appreciate the fact that you are looking out for me. I also appreciate the fact that your approach towards things like this are subtle and not as tough (or “harsh” ) as most Nigerian editors have called me. I’m not harsh, in fact I have received a barnstar for random act of kindness, but the problem is, unlike you who knows how to remain calm even if you know you are being bullshitted, I don’t remain calm & handle what I perceive as covert UPE without kids glove. Honestly if they keep violating our policy on copyright I might have to report them. Celestina007 (talk) 23:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007, I would suggest that you simply make the report.

I look out for you because I value your wok. I would hate it were you to jeopardise that by being over zealous. We catch more wasps with honey than with vinegar Fiddle Faddle 07:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I am not always as kind as you believe

I invite you to look at my talk page and at the self identified paid editor's draft, observing or participating at your discretion Fiddle Faddle 20:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent okay I’m not sure why it made me laugh but it did, seeing you vexed is definitely an anomaly, I could have sworn it was me doing the typing, okay enough jokes, but you see how you spoke with conviction when you felt they were trying to play you? That’s the same way I speak when I know I’m being bullshitted. I know BS when I see it but for now I’m taking your advice and recusing myself from engaging them. Celestina007 (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I knew it would make you giggle. It is an anomaly, and I pulled back and gave myself room to think, involving another experienced editor while thinking Fiddle Faddle 18:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent, tbh if you hadn’t told me to just dead it & move on I probably would have over done everything. I took your advice, I’d be a keeping an eye on them but wouldn’t proceed to engage them. In fact they have told me not to message them again & I’m going to respect that but I’d be a close eye on them regardless. Celestina007 (talk) 18:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Wise move. Any evidence can be presented by email, after all. And one cam smile and walk silently away from the creature, trying not to disturb it, all the while calling quietly for its keeper! Fiddle Faddle 19:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI courtesy notification

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Aleyamma38. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ravensfire, I actually feel bad. If I were around amidst this I probably could have talked them out of such behavior, but I haven’t been feeling well for a long while now thus I’ve been in & out of here. Celestina007 (talk) 17:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007, ack! Hopefully you're on the road to feeling better. Long term illness of any type isn't fun. I abhor going to ANI outside of the really obvious stuff. There's a feeling of me failing in my interaction with that person, and here it just didn't make sense. I totally understand that they don't like people changing or flagging possible issues in their articles, but that's normal around here and doesn't mean any hostility. I'm hopeful they'll come back after the block without some of the drama. Collaboration is so much easier. If you have a chance and the energy, would you mind look at Priyanka Choudhary and the talk page and see what you think. Out of courtesy to Aleyamma38, I'm not going to do anything AFD-wise until they return. I'm looking for some additional thoughts as right now, it just feels a bit WP:TOOSOON. Thanks, hope you're feeling better soon! Ravensfire (talk) 18:06, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Ravensfire, Thanks, I’m way better now. Yeah, about the article, I’d definitely do just that. Celestina007 (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Help needed on another not notable article

Hi Celestina007, I came across this article some months ago, I didn't pay attention to it until now. Kwame Baah (musician). 1. it looks like the article was actually created by the subject in the article. 2. The subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability tag, From what I noticed because the subject in question is a so called ''Digital Marketting Expert'', I have a feeling this article was to get him popular or something. Kindly have a look at it for me. thanks. and thanks gain for the previous help. Ampimd (talk) 02:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, yes, it is definitely a non notable autobiography and once again I can’t seem to fathom how a blatant self promotional article has been on mainspace for three years. I’ve sent it to AFD, thanks for making another nab. Celestina007 (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Many thanks for your advice! CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford, anytime, thanks also for listening I was pissed at something recently and it took the advice given to me by Timtrent, to realize my own shortcomings. The advice they gave me was the same advice I gave you. Thanks for your contributions. Stay safe. Celestina007 (talk) 14:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford and Celestina, the giving of advice is the easy part. The truly hard part is to take a pause, understand the advice, pause again and then accept or reject it with a good heart. The fundamental part is the pause.

We all need to remember, yes, me too, that nothing, repeat nothing, is ever urgent on Wikipedia. This is especially true when we are committed emotionally to a position. And this is true whether we are right or wrong.

Not all advice is good. Some is absolute rubbish. The pause gives us time to breathe, time to think, time to be our best selves Fiddle Faddle 14:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Well spoken and very much apt! Celestina007 (talk) 15:01, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Elijah Onyeagba

Thank you for the edit and suggestions that have been for additional sources on my article. I wish to source for more sources to meet the criteria as you have indicated. Kindly endeavor to notify me any other suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torksimlife (talk • contribs) 08:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak already told you here all there is to be said & if you aren’t listening to them it’s very unlikely that you would listen to me. Celestina007 (talk) 09:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

why is this page

what is wrong in this article im going to improve itHardyisback11188 (talk) 07:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Ummm what page? Celestina007 (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2021 (UTC)