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If it's about category than, Why in page [[Narendra Modi]] you(whoever the editor for that page not specifically you,as I hope they also work with wiki policy of catogery etc.) are mentioning him in his categories section as Prime Minister of India, along with that also an [[Member of Parliament (India)]]. As it is a sub-catogery. Because one can be a full time prime minister if he is a member of parliament. It's not only abo that page. It is like everywhere (many pages). And Sir, I am not blasting 😁😁😀😋😃Thanks. [[User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007|Aj Ajay Mehta 007]] ([[User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007|talk]]) 04:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
If it's about category than, Why in page [[Narendra Modi]] you(whoever the editor for that page not specifically you,as I hope they also work with wiki policy of catogery etc.) are mentioning him in his categories section as Prime Minister of India, along with that also an [[Member of Parliament (India)]]. As it is a sub-catogery. Because one can be a full time prime minister if he is a member of parliament. It's not only abo that page. It is like everywhere (many pages). And Sir, I am not blasting 😁😁😀😋😃Thanks. [[User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007|Aj Ajay Mehta 007]] ([[User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007|talk]]) 04:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Aj Ajay Mehta 007}}, Yu obviously didn't bother to read the page I linked then, did you? Please, read it - navigate around in the categories of Modi's article. The parent-child relationship is how the CATEGORY is setup. That's it. Not how I believe they work, how you believe it should be setup or anyone else for that matter. If you look at the category for prime ministers of India, you'll see the parents of that category include Political Officeholders of India. So you wouldn't see that category on his page. But the PM category isn't a child or parent of any Member of Parliament related category. Having both of them is valid - and if a person was a legislator of India at one time and later the PM of India, they should be in both categories, as those are both defining characteristics. Here's something to think about, when you see something done in lots of pages (categories), maybe that's the correct way to use categories. '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 05:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
:{{u|Aj Ajay Mehta 007}}, Yu obviously didn't bother to read the page I linked then, did you? Please, read it - navigate around in the categories of Modi's article. The parent-child relationship is how the CATEGORY is setup. That's it. Not how I believe they work, how you believe it should be setup or anyone else for that matter. If you look at the category for prime ministers of India, you'll see the parents of that category include Political Officeholders of India. So you wouldn't see that category on his page. But the PM category isn't a child or parent of any Member of Parliament related category. Having both of them is valid - and if a person was a legislator of India at one time and later the PM of India, they should be in both categories, as those are both defining characteristics. Here's something to think about, when you see something done in lots of pages (categories), maybe that's the correct way to use categories. '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 05:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
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i'm not sure if i'm supposed to respond on my talk page or this one, but i left a response under your statement on my page. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.196.126.78|151.196.126.78]] ([[User talk:151.196.126.78#top|talk]]) 00:58, April 21, 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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:I've responded on the article talk page - [[Talk:Natural-born-citizen_clause#Preamble]]. '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 17:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
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::i've added every quote directly about natural rights and the equality that all people are born into according to the united states declaration of independence. have i improved it enough? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.196.126.78|151.196.126.78]] ([[User talk:151.196.126.78#top|talk]]) 00:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::It's still what's called [[WP:SYNTH]]. You're taking some pieces of information and using them to create your own conclusions and opinions from those facts. That's not allowed on Wikipedia - it needs to be a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] (think legal scholar or law journal) that draws those conclusions - not you the editor. Your view is a good topic for a blog post, not good for Wikipedia. '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 00:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC) |
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but i'm not adding in any conclusions. i'm trying to get the actual quotes from the actual document into the page. i don't care how it's worded. if you can word it better, then do so. also, i've mentioned several times that lafayette is declared a natural born citizen not by birth or parentage. this is just a fact. it is not a conclusion. it is decided by the assembly. they all state these things themselves. i'm not trying to go out on a limb here. if you grew up in another country, then this might be need extra consideration. the same is true if you were taught to quickly on the subject by a teacher or if the subject was misled. but i'm showing you the actual quotes and i don't wish to add anything novel or new. i'm literally showing what was written. what was said about natural born citizens. lafayette. the natural rights we have. not being bound by governments according to birth. that's the entire thesis of the united states of america in a nutshell. i just would like it on the page somehow to stop all that foreign nonsense that people are taught about being born without the freedom of their own nationality when they talk about the united states. it's fine if it's another country, but the united states has scripture available. |
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:Sigh. The DoI says XYZ, '''therefore''' - and now you're into your interpretation and conclusion. One that's not followed by established law and precedent. Yes, your ''interpretation'' of what those clauses in the DoI mean is novel and new. No, it won't be added to Wikipedia because of all the reasons you've been told already. '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC) |
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i'm not asking about xyz. i'm asking what the conclusion is and what the quote says. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.196.126.78|151.196.126.78]] ([[User talk:151.196.126.78#top|talk]]) 01:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Mentioned
at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Showbiz826#Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:47, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Showbiz826 socks
I just want to let you know I have opened an investigation of the 2401:4900:40A0:0:0:0:0:0/43 IP range. The last investigation was pretty much abandoned, but Showbiz826 in recent days has really vamped up their disruptive edits through the IP range. Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chariotrider555, sounds good to me. There are a couple of other ranges where they sometimes edit, but that's by far their main range. Ravensfire (talk) 15:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- I noticed you and Chariotrider555 tracking rajput related pages. A new user called Bhojpal is involved in opinion based edits on List of Rajput dynasties and states and other such pages. I have reverted some but still needs scrutiny. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
"Personal attacks" reply
He deleted some stuff because he though they were "too mythological". If that isn't vandalism I don't know what is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YaSiRu11 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- YaSiRu11, then you don't know what vandalism is. Again READ the page I linked (especially WP:NOTVAND section). Good faith edits, which those absolutely were, with good edit summaries, which those had, should NEVER be described as vandalism. Questioning an edit is fine, using loaded terminology is not. Ravensfire (talk) 15:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
PROD
Hi Ravensfire, I have removed the proposed deletion tag that you have placed on Balaji Murugadoss as this was previously deleted through an AFD process in 2018. Please note PROD should not be used for pages that were previously discussed at AFD. For more info, please read WP:PROD. I am going to AFD this as this page doesn't look similar to that of 2018's and hence doesn't qualify for WP:G4 either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umakant Bhalerao (talk • contribs) 05:51, January 29, 2021 (UTC)
- Umakant Bhalerao, thanks for spotting that - I had tried to move it to draft, and there's already a one-two line draft article, so not something I could really do other than a copy-paste job. I'm fine with AFD, there's not much other choice. Hopefully the creator will ask it to be draftified. Ravensfire (talk) 14:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Review / Feedback required for my edits
Dear Ravensfire, Thanks for showing me the Copyvio Tool. I have made my best edit so far by expanding Who's Your Daddy (web series). Can you please share your review on this? If it is good, how can we remove Stub message from the bottom? -- VKG1985 (Talk | E-Mail | Contrib) 06:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing Junior Research Fellowships Page changes
Hello, I am Rohit kumar, I appreciate and accept your review of the reference I created in UGC NET JRF, But the resource is not a blog and education website in the sector. There is not an unreliable source. — Preceding undated comment added 12:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Rohitkumar1997, self-published source, same thing as a blog basically. Ravensfire (talk) 13:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Amused?
Hey there, thought you might be amused, well, slightly anyway, by this. Pakistani actress Hania Aamir was apparently pissed off that Wikipedia had the wrong birthdate listed, 11 February. This was enough for her to release a series of Instagram stories, and to curse the offender. "God willing, you will have to answer to Him about that". Er, um, that seems a bit extreme for a global encyclopedia that anyone can--wait, look who effed it up. I dunno, now I kind of want some celestial justice here. Think the Pope will consider installing an SPI booth at the Vatican? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb, okay, that's funny! And some cosmic justice there! Ravensfire (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Just a token of appreciation for your contributions to Wikipedia. Keep going dear . Vengeance 01 (talk) 15:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
Thank u
Thanks for important points regarding copyright--Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 17:44, 21 February 2021 (UTC)vansh_tyagi24
- Vansh tyagi24, and then you UPLOADED MORE OF THE SAME?!?!?! Do you NOT understand that you CANNOT DO THIS? Really - NO MORE IMAGE UPLOADS. Ravensfire (talk) 18:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay sorry for that--Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
About Images Deletion
Hii in crime patrol article I think there was atleast one image of award winning and also those images are not copyrighted. Please add any one of them image--Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 15:42, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Vansh tyagi24, those are the other images you've uploaded, right? Those are all tagged as "Own work" which I highly doubt is accurate. Own work means you actually took the picture, and given your track record of prior images, that's unlikely without substantial evidence. Three of them, for example, have Facebook tags in the metadata, so it's obvious where those are from. There's no indication of where the other images are from, so it's impossible to determine the copyright status. I really need to get a deletion request going on those images. Ravensfire (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Q.
Is medium.com work as citation--Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 04:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Vansh tyagi24, medium.com is generally NOT considered a reliable source. It's basically a blog site. See the entry on the Reliable Source/Perennial sources page. Ravensfire (talk) 14:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
FYI
Came across this: Ravenshfire and for a minute I thought it was you! —SpacemanSpiff 05:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- SpacemanSpiff, I did have a few too many beers last night! Ravensfire (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Finally blocked as a sock of one of your friends. He also created another one to imitate me (not as good though) -- SpacemanEmily!! —SpacemanSpiff 13:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- SpacemanSpiff, Bwaahhhhhhahahahahahaaa!! Their creative juices must be getting low. SpacemanSpiffy? SpacemanJiff? Or the Sylvester the Cat version SpppphhhhacemanSphhhhhiff! Ravensfire (talk) 13:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Finally blocked as a sock of one of your friends. He also created another one to imitate me (not as good though) -- SpacemanEmily!! —SpacemanSpiff 13:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
About Sanjeev Tyagi's Article
Now, I improved the article so much and mostly lines have inline citations. So please stop discussion of deletion. And There are many articles of living people from same show with 5 to 6 citations. and i am working on it to make more it reliable. And I not write only about crime patrol while write about major shows, movies, Theatre play, Webseries/ webfilms. So, Redirection to single show is a insult of actor. ( waiting for reply ) THANK YOU Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 08:54, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Vansh tyagi24, I've reviewed it with your changes and I'm still not seeing how it meets WP:NACTOR. To go into more detail, several of the sources you've added are very poor quality. Clickbait articles (lots of image, little text) are just terrible sources for Wikipedia. There's a lot of excessive references that just aren't good quality. You added information about Hanak, but source doesn't mention what role he plays, just that he's in the production. Theatre production - one source proves the show exists, but doesn't mention Tyagi. The other is about Tyagi, but doesn't mention theatre. Not helpful. Other television appearances have no source at all. Not helpful.
- Also, once a deletion discussion has started and others have commented, it must run through until the end. I couldn't close it early if I wanted. Ravensfire (talk) 14:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Asking a question
I have created an article named Assam Nepali Sahitya Sabha . Now the problem is that it is not showing in Google search. As my experience a reviewed Wikipedia article only shows in Google search and a pending is not. So my question is that. Is my article Assam Nepali Sahitya Sabha has been reviewed? If not then if you can review it please do it as fast as you can Jogesh 69 (talk) 16:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Jogesh 69
- New articles are set with NOINDEX until a new page patroller reviews them - Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_658#Wikipedia_page_not_showing_on_Google_search_results. That just takes time as there are a lot of pages that need reviewing. I'm not a new page reviewer, so I can't help speed that up. There's no deadline for Wikipedia, so just be patient. Ravensfire (talk) 17:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Complain
Why did u edited Dadasaheb Phalke award part on Radhika madan wiki page. Saswata2333 (talk) 07:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Saswata2333, there's more information at WP:DADASAHEB, but basically, it's a non-notable copycat award. She did not win the actual Dadasaheb Phalke award given at the National Film Awards. There also wasn't any reliable source included for the award. Ravensfire (talk) 13:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Proxy editor
Hey there, saw your recent reversion of this edit at Velayudham and thought I'd mention that Fylindfotberserk and I saw a flare-up of pro-Vijay edits (financial data inflations, etc) from someone (possibly Bothiman) who was using multiple proxies from various parts of the world. The first flare up was reported here, and I reported this latest one here. Take care, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb, oh joy, love it when annoying socks return. I'd just spotted last night that Hwkefrance has been somewhat actively editing Mohammed Burhanuddin and Uttaran as 188.236.* over the past week (plus a named account sock). Yet another disruptive sock to actively monitor again! Ravensfire (talk) 17:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I hope that medical science one day comes up with a cure for whatever form of illness this is. I simply can't put myself in their shoes; I can't comprehend how someone could feel so entitled to do whatever they want on someone else's property. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Un Spam My Domain
Hi, Hope you are fine, one of youe friend spam my domain pcbeducation.com from wikipedia this website yoo much informative about aiou and i think this website diserves a link here so please un spam it. Regards, Pcbeducation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishif98 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hamishif98, Not going to happen. It was blocked on the global blacklist because you kept spamming it over and over using multiple accounts. See MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/May_2020. Wikipedia DOES NOT TOLERATE SPAM. Gentle reminders didn't work. Warnings didn't work. Apparently, only very direct action works. Since you did it across multiple Wikipedia sites, the only option was to globally block. Your actions drove the result. Ravensfire (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting us know about hte new domain though, I'll get a request is to have that added to the blacklist. Ravensfire (talk) 17:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Please create biographical living person article
Bikram malati film director make an article for biographical living person This for knowledge google please
Most searched celebrity on Google
He is YouTuber director actor She this knowledge graph about Bikram malati (https://g.co/kgs/muXweV) filmography Please search on google
- Krodh (2019)
Web series YouTube
Please search on google
- Bikram malati untold story
- Bikram malati show — Preceding unsigned comment added by MahankGjkm (talk • contribs) 12:19, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- MahankGjkm, Given that Bikram Malati has had to be protected because it was recreated so many times (lowercase m), why do I have a feeling you're not being totally honest here? Previous accounts? COI disclosure? No thanks, this is not a notable person (and yes, I did a search) - don't use Wikipedia for self-promotion. Ravensfire (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Greetings
Hi Ravensfire,
My first article was here of Amanat Ali (singer) since then I have created many articles voluntarily and one of the articles was Draft:Shadab_Siddiqui but its been 3 months and the article wasn't even reviewed by anyone. Recently a song by the singer "Tum Bin" went viral on social media and on television channels so I have also updated the article with almost notable links to Indian media, so by any chance can you review this article? either it can be approved or declined but at least it should be reviewed.
Thanks --Static Hash (talk) 13:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Static Hash, I'm not a reviewer, so I can't help you there. The backlog of articles to review is pretty massive, and as the note at the top says, it can take 4+ months sometimes. There is no deadline on Wikipedia, so you just need to be patient. Some areas you can continue to improve the article would be to add sources for the date of birth, without a source, it would be removed. A couple of times you're using the same article published in different websites - just use one website, please. There are still several places where you're using multiple references when really only one is needed (WP:REFBOMB). Ravensfire (talk) 13:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Don't Blame
You blamed me! You need to know what PERSONAL ATTACKS actually means. You criticized my grammar although you could correct them if there was any grammatical mistakes but you choose to criticize. Also you wrote: I'm not sure if it is written in neutral tone, and I see many grammatical mistakes etc. Don't add puffery material or content which seem to be baised, try to be neutral
, this was JUDGEMENTAL, which is not appreciable. I just pointed out your spelling mistake it doesn't mean I did PERSONAL ATTACK! please DON'T BLAME by saying that. you really need to work on you communication skills (just advice not personal). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farazdeswali (talk • contribs) 21:46, March 18, 2021 (UTC)
- Farazdeswali, NONE of the comments made towards you were personal attacks. It's a comment to help you improve. This is an international project and nobody expects everyone to be perfect. I'm certainly not perfect in my grammar, and when it gets corrected or pointed out, I just strive to do better. You WILL have people commenting on your edits, reverting them, correcting them, improving them and you need to consider how you're going to handle that. Describing something as racist when it clearly wasn't is absolutely a personal attack. Continue with the somewhat hostile approach you've had thus far (all caps, even!) or realize that part of collaboration means others pointing out where you can do better. Collaboration works much better when you assume that comments from others are there to help you, not to denigrate. Think on it. Ravensfire (talk) 03:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire, Now I appreciate your tone. I reacted because of that comment(Don't add puffery material or content which seem to be baised, try to be neutral) which was not but by the way Let it go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farazdeswali (talk • contribs) 22:17, March 18, 2021 (UTC)
Regarding your message at Talk Page
On the Talk Page of List of vice presidents of India by longevity, you wrote the following :
On a different topic around notability, the title says longevity, which usually would refer to the life of the person. The page is all about their age though. This is a really confusing article. In addition, this entire page could be put as a short paragraph in the main Vice President article. I'm not seeing somehting that screams it should be split out.[1]
On this note, if the name of the article can be changed from List of vice presidents of India by longevity to List of vice presidents of India by age, as it is mainly dealing with age, which I agree. I named it so to maintain uniformity as other two pages on List of presidents of India by longevity and List of prime ministers of India by longevity, both were using the word "longevity" and not age, but List of vice presidents of the United States by age is using the word "age". On putting this entire page as a short paragraph on main Vice President of India article, I would request to keep it as a separate page as Presidents, Prime Ministers of many countries including India have this type of articles separately, but there is no issue in putting a summary of this article in the main article, and inserting this article's link in main article, but keeping this page as a separate page. Will that work out?
Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Talk:List of vice presidents of India by longevity", Wikipedia, 2021-03-19, retrieved 2021-03-20
- Kavyansh.Singh, comments like this are really best left at the article talk page, where is more likely that interested editors will see it and comment. I've got the page followed on my WP:WATCHLIST so I'll see when it's been edited. I understand that several other pages are called longevity, but if you look at them, they have a different focus than your article, which in part is what triggered my comment. Ravensfire (talk) 21:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
The Swan Princess and The Princess and the Frog
That IP user was trying get people to agree with the unconfirmed comparison on the respective talk pages. I already told him/her once and for all to stop. I hate repeating myself. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 12:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Priyanka Choudhary
I had already quoted so many references for the subject Priyanka Choudhary to meet it all the requirements for WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, but I really don't understand why are you again and again adding the the General Notability Criteria. It kind of feels silly, because there seems to be similar articles like Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha which have half the amount of SOURCES that I quote for my WP:BLP articles, plus these subjects Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha don't even fulfill WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG as much as the subject Priyanka Choudhary does! However, they do not contain any TEMPLATES. Is it that the WIKIPEDIAN ADMINS target only some EDITORS? No seriously, it seems very ridiculous....--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Aleyamma38, Please stop with the hyperbole and shouting, it distracts from anything useful and presents your view in a poor light. This is related to an article, so the discussion needs to be happening on the article talk page where other interested editors are far more likely to find it. On other articles, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - basically, this discussion is about this article, not any other. Ravensfire (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire Excuse me I don't really shout! And, now you are giving me more surety that you are teamed up with certain other editors and targeting me! Great keep it up! And you haven't even answered what I asked for! Okay I will present about the wicked Wikipedian Adminstrators targeting some editors to admins who don't play SUCH DIRTY GAMES!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Aleyamma38, All caps and bolded? That's considered shouting. It makes your comment harder to read because of the distracting text. I highly doubt I'm the only one that's mentioned this to you. Look through other talk page posts, you won't see that formatting. Also, I'm not an administrator, that's pretty easy to check - you'll see my name isn't there. Feel free to bring it up through - WP:ANI is the correct venue. I'm hoping to see you start a reasonable discussion about the tag on the article talk page, that would be a helpful gesture. Ravensfire (talk) 17:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Part of what I think you're missing is that Wikipedia is a collaborative editing environment, and the ideal editing process is called Boldly make a change, but when it's Reverted, start a Discussion on the talk page. Article tags in good faith, especially on newer articles, really should be discussed on the article talk page. There were issues with exaggeration in that article early on that have been removed, but that made my concerns about notability more significant. Generally, two series with significant roles is what NACTOR is wanting, and Choudhary has just the one. Again though, article talk page... Ravensfire (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire Yes I do use CAPS AND BOLD, obviously I can't change what other people think about that! Oh yeah the Drmies and Fizconiz with whom YOU ARE TEAMED UP IN PLAYING DIRTY POLICTICS also did say that! But everyone has their STYLE OF WRITING, it not just me and I'm not the ONLY ONE TOO! And, thanks a lot for showing how much Wikipedia is a collaborative editing environment. Keep it up!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 18:00, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sigh. Ravensfire (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire Yes I do use CAPS AND BOLD, obviously I can't change what other people think about that! Oh yeah the Drmies and Fizconiz with whom YOU ARE TEAMED UP IN PLAYING DIRTY POLICTICS also did say that! But everyone has their STYLE OF WRITING, it not just me and I'm not the ONLY ONE TOO! And, thanks a lot for showing how much Wikipedia is a collaborative editing environment. Keep it up!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 18:00, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Part of what I think you're missing is that Wikipedia is a collaborative editing environment, and the ideal editing process is called Boldly make a change, but when it's Reverted, start a Discussion on the talk page. Article tags in good faith, especially on newer articles, really should be discussed on the article talk page. There were issues with exaggeration in that article early on that have been removed, but that made my concerns about notability more significant. Generally, two series with significant roles is what NACTOR is wanting, and Choudhary has just the one. Again though, article talk page... Ravensfire (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Aleyamma38, All caps and bolded? That's considered shouting. It makes your comment harder to read because of the distracting text. I highly doubt I'm the only one that's mentioned this to you. Look through other talk page posts, you won't see that formatting. Also, I'm not an administrator, that's pretty easy to check - you'll see my name isn't there. Feel free to bring it up through - WP:ANI is the correct venue. I'm hoping to see you start a reasonable discussion about the tag on the article talk page, that would be a helpful gesture. Ravensfire (talk) 17:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire Excuse me I don't really shout! And, now you are giving me more surety that you are teamed up with certain other editors and targeting me! Great keep it up! And you haven't even answered what I asked for! Okay I will present about the wicked Wikipedian Adminstrators targeting some editors to admins who don't play SUCH DIRTY GAMES!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Ravensfire, I suppose I should be glad to see I'm not the only one getting yelled at. User:Cyphoidbomb, I've asked the editor not to ping me anymore. Pinging someone when they asked not to be pinged is considered harassment. I'm bothered by this, by the yelling, by the inane insults and the phony accusations. Now I'm playing DIRTY POLITICS with Ravensfire? Drmies (talk) 20:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, for someone with 1400 edits, their style is rather abrasive, isn't it? It doesn't look like advice and suggestion clearly aren't welcomed by them either I know you haven't edited the specifc article discussed here, so pulling you or anyone else in is just bizzare. I've got a pretty good feeling things will end up at ANI. The personal attacks here are one things, continuing them on other talk page is getting a bit over the line. NPA warning left, hopefully they can accept the constructive advice and move on. Ravensfire (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
New to wikipedia - interested in your role
Hi I am new to wikipedia and will be making some corrections and additions to the Bulleit Bourbon wikipedia page.
I notice you have reverted my changes (which I will reply to separately) and would like to know your role and authority to revert/edit/moderate content that is added to the Bulleit Bourbon wikipedia page.
For example, I notice that for awards we added, you said they need to be "notable...have a wikipedia page...and secondary source." Who decides which awards are "notable" within the Bourbon industry? This seems subjective to me at the least.
Any insight you can provide about you and your role -- as well as any guidance I can review as to how to properly add to the wikipedia community would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your attention.
Maxcatwiki (talk) 19:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Maxcatwiki, I'm an editor, like everyone else here, including you. My apologies for not leaving a welcome message on your talk page that may have helped some. That full list of unsourced awards had a couple of problems. First, it's totally unsourced, Wikipedia's Verification policy requires information to be supported by reliable sources so readers can verify claims. Wikipedia also tries to avoid WP:INDISCRIMINATE lists, which is exactly what this represents. Major, significant awards are good, but there are a lot of meaningless / trivia awards in the spirit industry. I do have a question for you, do you have a WP:COI around this article, or are being WP:PAID for these edits? Neither prohibits you from editing, but please read those pages as disclosures can be required. Ravensfire (talk) 19:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire, Thanks for the reply and information. I have updated my page with my payment disclosure. I did notice that someone else has just made an edit to this page, most likely trying to improve that section, but provides false information (i.e., that Hollis B worked for Diageo for 25 years whereas she only worked for Diageo from 2006-2016) and that third sentence ("Hollis has since changed her name to Hollis B Worth, and writes about her experiences on her website.[12]") is refering to her "experiences" and using a citation that is merely a link to her personal webpage. I don't understand how this is appropriate for the Bulleit Bourbon wikipedia page, and not simply promoting her own self-interest. Your thoughts? Many thanks, Maxcatwiki (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Maxcatwiki, I'm going to copy this to the article talk page, as it's the most relevant there. Someone will need to review what's in the source to verify what's in the article. WP:BLP1E is a relevant policy, where someone is notable because of one thing, so rather than have a separate page, there can be a slight expansion about the person on that one page. Ravensfire (talk) 14:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire, Thanks for the reply and information. I have updated my page with my payment disclosure. I did notice that someone else has just made an edit to this page, most likely trying to improve that section, but provides false information (i.e., that Hollis B worked for Diageo for 25 years whereas she only worked for Diageo from 2006-2016) and that third sentence ("Hollis has since changed her name to Hollis B Worth, and writes about her experiences on her website.[12]") is refering to her "experiences" and using a citation that is merely a link to her personal webpage. I don't understand how this is appropriate for the Bulleit Bourbon wikipedia page, and not simply promoting her own self-interest. Your thoughts? Many thanks, Maxcatwiki (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Alif Revert
Hello, I'm Ravensfire. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Alif (TV series) have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Blogs are not good sources for Wikipedia and shouldn't be referenced
A: Not promotional -- the blog referenced has nothing to do with me, and does not sell any goods, B: Not advertising, not soapbox -- C: Article gives a four line synposis of the plot. The link provides an in-depth synopsis, a fairly complete and well-written plot summary of the drama. D: Purpose of Wikipedia is to provide INFORMATION. SOmeone who is reading the article about ALIF is interested in learning about what is in this TV Series. Existng four line description is highly in-adequate for this purpose. If someone want to learn MORE about the plot, the link - as the title indicates - provides a complete plot summary with spoilers. Actually I wanted this summary, looked up the Wikipedia article, did not find what I was looking for, searched google for summary and came up with this link which has exactly what I was looking for. I added the link to the Wikipedia article so as to save future searchers in my position from this trouble. E: The "REFERENCE" not being sourced to a blog is not relevant in this situation - this is not an academic article - it is plot summary of a TV series. Asaduzaman (talk) 00:26, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Asaduzaman, blogs are self-published and are not acceptable sources for Wikipedia. See WP:RS and WP:SPS. Ravensfire (talk) 00:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Unbelievable levels of dogmatism combined with refusal to think for yourself!! I give up Asaduzaman (talk) 04:30, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Asaduzaman, ahhh, so if I don't agree with what you want to do, I can't think for myself? That's what you just said, and that's utterly pathetic. Maybe, JUST maybe, I agree with the policy for avoiding self-published sources AND more importantly, the reasoning behind that policy. And maybe, JUST maybe, that's the reason I reverted the blog you added. So maybe, JUST maybe, you ought to examine your own knee-jerk reaction for dogmatism. Regardless, I do not tolerate people that stoop to personal attacks. I've got your talk page followed, you can make any further response there, your presence on this page is not welcome at this time, and any posts you make here will simple be reverted, unread, as vandalism. Your attitude, and your attitude alone, has driven this action. Ravensfire (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
magadha
In magadha article I only published a detailed Monarch list from Brihadratha dynasty to Pala dynasty In present article Brihadratha or Parghota dynasty not mention I only mention & add more details list. So why you reverted it, I again type reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:41C5:F2C6:0:38:BD9A:5501 (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Mainly because you did not include references in the edit. It's impossible for a reader to verify what you've added without including those sources. There's enough unsourced stuff in there, but adding more isn't going to help improve Wikipedia. WP:CITEHOW has some good information on how to add references. Ravensfire (talk) 15:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Why not accepting my draft "Deepak Rawat IAS" to create article
Reason why? Let me tell you I have added a ton of reference and sources for the page Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 17:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Aj Ajay Mehta 007, first, I'm not a new article reviewer, so I couldn't accept the article. I noticed that you used a junk scraper site as a source and removed it, and restored the earlier AFC decline message (which helps reviewers understand prior issues and possible improvements). If I was, it's questionable at best. There's a lot of sources with passing mentions of the article subject, but those don't help with notability. Do you have some type of relation (friend, relative, etc) with this person, or have been WP:PAID to create this article? Ravensfire (talk) 18:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok, You have removed that junk site etc. Now it should be accepted. Isn't? And why isn't there notability of article. There are lot notability by many newspapers {those are in wikipedia good site(preferable source,) whatever it is} and there is notability by the bench of Supreme Court of India comprises of Chief Justice of India. Why? I mean how u couldn't find notability? And about relation, I don't have any direct relation with article(person). And about Paid😆😂{paid ऐसा भी होता है क्या-Is that also happen😆😂}. I haven't been paid for this article at all(Not just for this article,for any other, I haven't paid) I am not a paid person at all for anything to do. I just want to improve and add knowledge and information for wikipedia by my own. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 04:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Answer it.🙄😑 Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 17:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Aj Ajay Mehta 007, first, kindly remember that everyone here is a volunteer. Making demands like you've done is rather rude. Second, read again my first reply, especially the first part - I'm not a new article reviewer. I cannot accept the article if I wanted and even if I could, it's unlikely. The sources aren't really strong and feel more like puff pieces that good news articles. Sources need to be focused on the article subject, passing or brief mentions don't meet that criteria. There is no deadline on Wikipedia, just be patient and the article will get reviewed in time. Ravensfire (talk) 17:35, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Rvt on Duryodhan article
Hii Ravensfire, Why you reverted my edit on Duryodhan article, the movie Rajneeti was based on modern politics of India and not on epic Mahbharat at all, there are many depictions of him in popular culture already, no need to add dubious depiction like that. Best Holy Contributor 92 (talk) 00:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Holy Contributor 92, as I noted in the edit summary, the source explicitly made the comparison. I get you disagree with the source, but Wikipedia works from what sources say, not what we want them to say. Ravensfire (talk) 02:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
About Holy Contribution 92 edit warring
Sir this user seems to be sockpuppet of User:Aristocratic 536 as he was interested in changing infobox images of many personalities like Amitabh Bachan, Alia Bhatt, Tamannaah etc. and same they have done at Virat Kohli's article too as they have removed the releavent 2017 photo of Virat. And their are few another changes too which match with the contributions of sockpuppet account and their invenstigation is also opened at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aristocratic 536. They are just ruining the infoboxes of articles and adding their desired changes. Please check the history of above mentioned pages and then you will find what I am talking about.119.160.117.1 (talk) 10:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- As Holy Contributor 02 noted, this does belong in the SPI report where I did see you commented. I also left my thoughts there. However, no personal attacks applies everywhere, some of your comments have crossed that line. Ravensfire (talk) 02:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Deepak Talwar
Sir i have submitted the page deepak talwar again after added some reference please review and accept the article.
Plotterof (talk) 03:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
How to upload images
Hai Ravensfire I am new to wikipedia. Question:Where do we get photos to upload in wikipedia? I had upload many photos in wiki pedia and Sir/Mam had removed it and said 'this photos are copyright violation'. I agree it because I have taken from different sites,So where do we get photos to upload. Can I upload photos taken by me? Do I want to upload photos in wikicommen before uploading it in wikipedia? Please help me... --Mam KP (talk) 15:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam KP, For the most part, you cannot upload any image you find on-line as they are protected by copyright and have licenses that are not compatible with Wikipedia. This includes Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, but also includes news websites - basically just about everything out there. Images that are in the public domain, or are explicitly listed as having a compatible license (usually Creative Commons licenses). The WP:IUP page has more information on image policy here on the English Wikipedia.
- There is a crucial difference between English and Commons - Commons ONLY allows image with compatible licenses. Here we allow fair-use images, but that's only allowed in very limited circumstances (and almost never for living persons).
- Specific to India-related film and television articles, Bollywood Hungama has graciously relicensed some of their images as CC-BY-3.0 which is compatible. The template needed on commons has some details on the requirements (c:Template:BollywoodHungama) - basically it has to be from a Bollywood set, party or event in India and taken by a BH photography. Usually the url will mention parties and/or events and will have a BH watermark. You'll see those used in a lot of biographical articles. Hope that helps some. Ravensfire (talk) 15:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok thank Ravensfire.Can I ask one more doubt, can l upload tue photos taken by me Mam KP (talk) 16:19, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam KP, if they are actually taken by you and have the metadata intact to prove it, yes. Ravensfire (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok or can I upload photos from wiki commen ? Just doubt only 0k Mam KP (talk) 03:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Regarding your last edit on page Deepak Rawat
You have removed the tag or post whatever that is...of the person. For your kind information and knowledge An Indian Administrative Services Officer is also an Indian Civil Servant. So let it be there. So improve your knowledge and go through information before just edit it back. Anything that is beyond your knowledge doesn't mean it is wrong. So learn. As everyone in this world is learner. Thanks. Plz reply. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 04:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Aj Ajay Mehta 007, you need to improve your knowledge about how Wikipedia's category system works. When a child category is present, the parent category is not included except for certain ones marked as non-diffusing. Indian Civil Servants are not a non-diffusing category. As you said, something beyond your knowledge doesn't mean it's wrong. So learn. Improve your knowledge. Clear?
- You may want to think about spending 30 seconds looking on Wikipedia for how something works, like, I don't know, maybe looking at WP:CATEGORY and learning. Or maybe asking why something was done, not blast through out of control making wild assumptions that are completely wrong. Like you did here. Ravensfire (talk) 04:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I got it. And I am not blasting. Don't assume it as blasting at all. I am just discussing. And as your wish, I admire that. You are right about that it is a kind of sub-catogery. As it is about wiki policy n all. If it's about category than, Why in page Narendra Modi you(whoever the editor for that page not specifically you,as I hope they also work with wiki policy of catogery etc.) are mentioning him in his categories section as Prime Minister of India, along with that also an Member of Parliament (India). As it is a sub-catogery. Because one can be a full time prime minister if he is a member of parliament. It's not only abo that page. It is like everywhere (many pages). And Sir, I am not blasting 😁😁😀😋😃Thanks. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 04:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Aj Ajay Mehta 007, Yu obviously didn't bother to read the page I linked then, did you? Please, read it - navigate around in the categories of Modi's article. The parent-child relationship is how the CATEGORY is setup. That's it. Not how I believe they work, how you believe it should be setup or anyone else for that matter. If you look at the category for prime ministers of India, you'll see the parents of that category include Political Officeholders of India. So you wouldn't see that category on his page. But the PM category isn't a child or parent of any Member of Parliament related category. Having both of them is valid - and if a person was a legislator of India at one time and later the PM of India, they should be in both categories, as those are both defining characteristics. Here's something to think about, when you see something done in lots of pages (categories), maybe that's the correct way to use categories. Ravensfire (talk) 05:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
ANI courtesy notification
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Ravensfire. Thank you. --Aleyamma38 (talk) 06:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)