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The prison that he is scheduled to be moved to - on a day that the public will not have advance information about - is not a "stone's throw away from Utøya".--There is a plan that Breivik will be moved from Skien Prison; for now I don't think we need that information about distances - and possibly not ever. [[Special:Contributions/89.8.88.119|89.8.88.119]] ([[User talk:89.8.88.119|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The prison that he is scheduled to be moved to - on a day that the public will not have advance information about - is not a "stone's throw away from Utøya".--There is a plan that Breivik will be moved from Skien Prison; for now I don't think we need that information about distances - and possibly not ever. [[Special:Contributions/89.8.88.119|89.8.88.119]] ([[User talk:89.8.88.119|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
:The distance between Utøya and [[Ringerike Prison]] (transferred there yesterday), is around [https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/breivik-flyttet-over-til-nytt-fengsel.jWqo_86OZ?utm_source=vgfront&utm_content=direktewidget&utm_medium=direktewidget_nyhetsdognet] 10 kilometers. [[Special:Contributions/89.8.64.104|89.8.64.104]] ([[User talk:89.8.64.104|talk]]) 22:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


== "Directorate of the Corrections Service" ==
== "Directorate of the Corrections Service" ==

Revision as of 22:17, 29 March 2022

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Law mandates that prisoners must be indicted again, if prosecuting authority rejects parole

Source [2] from 2022 that explains that Norwegian law mandates that prisoners in preventive detention, who have been refused parole must be indicted again. 84.48.174.53 (talk) 12:58, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ajoj

Neće srbija ući u 21. stoljeće dok ovakve ljude rađa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.252.199.36 (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Testimony in 2022

Has he on January 18 denied responsibility or not? Does media's experts think that his answer on that point, is ambiguous?

  • He testified today (at 14:29) that he committed the acts "to the degree that I let myself get radicalised, and that is to a certain degree my fault".

Original quote, according [3] to NRK: "– Jeg som menneske utførte handlingene i den grad at jeg lot meg radikalisere, og det er til en viss grad min skyld".
I am not convinced that his whole testimony contains one major (and clear) idea about him having much guilt for the massacre/terrorism in 2011. Some other RS will chime in. 89.8.89.15 (talk) 15:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Style

Excessively wordy and not very easy to read. Solipsism 101 (talk) 18:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to discussion:

  • "On the way to his first jail meeting, Breivik's police escort was met with an angry crowd, some of whom shouted abuse".[1][2][3]"
    Arguably nothing notable happened: Shouting at 2-3 cars passing by, has non-obvious notability. The convoy of 2-3 cars was not stopped by any crowd or individual. (However, on at least one day, at least one person was able to hit (with his hand, cirka one time) the side of one of the 2-3 cars in the convoy that was driving by. 89.8.89.15 (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2022 (UTC)89.8.89.15 (talk) 20:34, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Andresen was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference nrk1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ "Norway police say 84 killed in Utoeya shooting". Reuters. 23 July 2011. Retrieved 23 July 2011. R. Andresen: "We have no more information than ... what has been found on (his) own websites, which is that is goes toward the right (wing) and that it is, so to speak, Christian fundamentalist."

Please anyone, remove

  • " the trial [had been] scheduled for 3 days, and a fourth day [was] scheduled as a possible extra day [if needed]".
    Justification: The trial ended on the third day (and that is referenced in the article). The rest of the information is of little consequence - in any. 89.8.158.98 (talk) 12:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)89.8.158.98 (talk) 12:22, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please anyone, replace

  • "At the start of the trial, Breivik gave "several Nazi salutes also directed at" the judge; Breivik gave a Nazi salute to [the members of the public in the courtroom or] listeners - mostly journalist."

  • Replace with: "At the start of the trial, Breivik gave several Nazi salutes.
    Comment - Anyone has my support to make that replacement. Justification: Nazi salutes are not illegal in that country. No police report has been made regarding threatening gestures in court, towards the judge (or the three judges). 89.8.158.98 (talk) 17:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTNEWS

Since the hearing started, I see that one or multiple users (it's unclear because anon) have been updating the article frequently regarding the events. Please don't do that - Wikipedia is not a newspaper. It's also not a transcript. While some of the content is encyclopaedic, most of it isn't. --Xurizuri (talk) 13:23, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary - most of the content is encyclopaedic (if not all).--Developments since your post of January 22: Breivik lost one "parole trial" in 2022. However, the wiki-article has sourced that he will not be in any courtroom for the next two years [no matter what happens to his appeal regarding the "parole trial"].--If these perspectives are of help to you, then fine. 89.8.172.54 (talk) 21:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Has not registered (any) political party; His trial testimony in regard to his occupation

He has not registered any political party (yet) (as of his trial testimony in 2022). Furthermore he says that his occupation is: candidate for parliamentary elections, in regard to an (unnamed) Nazi party.
If one wants to say more than that - then there have to be sources to back that up; for now the wiki-article does not have inline sourcing for saying more than that. 89.8.118.74 (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to discussion (and somebody can fork it on out)

Please anyone, be bold and move to discussion, the following

  • "Previously, in September 2020, an application for Breivik's parole was made by his attorney, Øystein Storrvik. As of July 2021, Breivik has been in prison for ten years, granting him the right to have the court system review his petition for parole.[1]"

    If and when someone moves the above text to this talk page, then someone else can later move these details to any new relevant article.--The issue about parole, is clear enough in other parts of the article. 89.8.88.119 (talk) 14:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC) 89.8.88.119 (talk) 14:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ [1] "Det opplyser massemorderens forsvarer, advokat Øystein Storrvik til VG. – Jeg har på vegne av ham sendt inn en begjæring om prøveløslatelse, sier Storrvik til VG. – Han har krav på domstolsprøving av prøveløslatelse ved minstetid som er ti år i hans tilfelle. "

Mistaken reporting in 2022 about a a "stone's throw" etc.

The prison that he is scheduled to be moved to - on a day that the public will not have advance information about - is not a "stone's throw away from Utøya".--There is a plan that Breivik will be moved from Skien Prison; for now I don't think we need that information about distances - and possibly not ever. 89.8.88.119 (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The distance between Utøya and Ringerike Prison (transferred there yesterday), is around [4] 10 kilometers. 89.8.64.104 (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Directorate of the Corrections Service"

Authorities in relevant news today: Kriminalomsorgsdirektoratet (KDI). Source: NRK at 11.59 today.--Stuff that deals with Breivik, is (arguably) normally presented to media by underlying agencies.--However, I don't think we need the name of the agency etc. in regard to the events from today, that the article mentions.89.8.88.119 (talk) 16:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC) 89.8.88.119 (talk) 16:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should be simplified?

  • "Previously, between the inception of SHS, in 2002, and 2016 Norway had only imprisoned ten or eleven[1] prisoners under these conditions, of which Breivik's term has been the longest.[2][3]"

    One could maybe say something like:
    "As of 2016, nobody had served longer under SHS prison conditions; he still has (as of 2022) the same conditions.[4]

    Even simpler:
    "As of 2022, nobody has served longer under SHS prison conditions - which were new conditions in 2002 (well before Breivik's murders)."
    89.8.172.54 (talk) 21:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ NRK (10 March 2016). "Norge har aldri evaluert Breiviks soningsregime" [Norway has never evaluated Breivik's regimen of imprisonment]. NRK. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
  2. ^ "Dom" (PDF). p. 12. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 April 2016. Retrieved 25 April 2016.
  3. ^ "Prisons in Norway". Life in Norway. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 23 March 2019.
  4. ^ Note: "Previously, between the inception of SHS, in 2002, and 2016 Norway had only imprisoned ten or eleven (source: NRK (10 March 2016). "Norge har aldri evaluert Breiviks soningsregime" [Norway has never evaluated Breivik's regimen of imprisonment]. NRK. Retrieved 28 April 2016.) prisoners under these conditions, of which Breivik's term has been the longest.(sources: "Dom" (PDF). p. 12. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 April 2016. Retrieved 25 April 2016.) "Prisons in Norway". Life in Norway. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 23 March 2019.)"
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