Talk:Airbus A380

Chart

The airbus is on the list of aircraft compared. Therefore the chart should be on the page in the specifications section. Kenixkil (talk) 02:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Doesnt matter that somebody has created an image we do not normally do comparisions and the image does not add anything to the article. i believe this was discussed and removed before. MilborneOne (talk) 10:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Last airbus is built

Article needs updating to reflect the final airbus is build and the type is out of production. 2601:285:8180:1A10:4526:85F0:C0B1:FB65 (talk) 06:08, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Any reference to support this claim? Ruslik_Zero 20:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

This is covered in the Lead and in one or two places in body of article, but maybe not in the best places or clearly enough. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

I note a hidden comment recently added to the lead: Since the last A380 has been delivered, this para will be updated as soon as the O&D will be issued in January 2022. I'm well aware that we usually wait for the official O&D before updating delivery figures, but here we already have a clear reference for delivery of the final aircraft – in the previous paragraph of the lead, making it inconsistent. Why not update now? Rosbif73 (talk) 07:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Although waiting for the next O&D report to update the Orders and Deliveries section seems reasonable, I cant see why the last delivery couldnt be mentioned elsewhere if it has a reliable reference. It is unlikely that the O&D will actually say it is the last. MilborneOne (talk) 09:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Lede

@Ich-Du-De: - Would the phrase "with no hull losses" be acceptable in the lede. We can't say there have been no accidents, as there are two accidents with articles. Mjroots (talk) 04:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Better to say no hull loss accidents, i.e. no crashes (an accident does necessarily not mean a crash). I don't think this is really misleading, but I understand your concern. -Fnlayson (talk) 04:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, better to say "no hull loss accidents". Because, "hull loss" can be also an incident, e.g. an aircraft caught on fire during parking and was written off. I prefer "No accidents" in this regard as it is more general and strictly follow the definition of ICAO Annex 13, imho.Ich-Du-De (talk) 05:05, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

• The November 2010 event is classified as an accident due to damage per the entry in the Accidents and incidents section. -Fnlayson (talk) 05:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

OK, the "significant damage" in the ICAO Annex 13, point b, is actually a "grey zone". A contained engine failure is easily to be defined as an incident (white) but we have here an uncontained engine failure case and if the cited source defined it as an accident (black) then there is no other choice, except to follow it. I will revoke my "undid" to the edit of @Mjroots:, it there will be no more comments from other editors within one week. Ich-Du-De (talk) 05:33, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ich-Du-De: - I've tweaked the lede. Mjroots (talk) 05:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that User:Ich-Du-De. -Fnlayson (talk) 05:37, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

How many A380s are still in service? Article seems wrong

Of the 251 A380s delivered before manufacturing shut down, how many are still in service? The Operators section-lede says "There were 244 aircraft in service (of 249 delivered) with 16 operators as of 31 October 2021" (and 2 more new aircraft were delivered after October)

just below that, the Airbus_A380#Former operators subsection says "Air France operated 10... retired... Fly Malta operated 1 Airbus A380-800, retired... Lufthansa operated 14... retired"

So, with those 25 retired of the 251 total, the number 244 seems wildly more than 226. Also, have any other A380s been retired but not by "former" operators? 2603:8001:9500:9E98:0:0:0:9A7 (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

An-225 destruction makes A380 heaviest aircraft in the world

Should this be added to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.243.218 (talk) 02:54, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

No, because it didn't, so it isn't. BilCat (talk) 03:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2022 (GSOC microtask)

165.124.85.32 (talk) 20:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —C.Fred (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Largest airplane?

The “largest passenger airliner” needs to be changed to “largest airplane”, for the Antonov an 224 has been destroyed by russian bombing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Planeguy90 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@Planeguy90: By what parameters? Per List of large aircraft, the Scaled Composites Stratolaunch is longer, heavier, has a much greater wingspan than the A380, and carries a much greater payload, albeit external. BilCat (talk) 02:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding New Testing Information

In the second to last paragraph within the Testing section, there is a small tangent from 2014 about further testing of specifically the test models from 2005. I came across new information about Airbus' Flight Lab program, which is testing new rotor engines and sustainable fuels on the planes. I want to add this information, but I don't know exactly where would be best. This information seems extremely relevant to show that although the production of A380s has expired, Airbus has not stopped improving their commercial flop. Would it be ideal to add it right after the 2014 tangent, at the end of the Testing section, or maybe even add a new section?

On a semi-related note but not as relevant, I think the Airbus Flight Lab program could use its own article, since it spans across different Airbus models and is an amazing step to fight carbon emissions among commercial flight. Jadeisbetter (talk) 17:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2022

To change Airbus a380 To airbus 380, the A in a380 is airbus. Planespotter37 (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

No, Airbus includes the A in its model numbers. See A220 and A350 on the Passenger aircraft page. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Lufthansa's A380 operations

• The statement regarding Lufthansa in the Operators section needs clarification and is currently misleading or at least a bit sparse as it can be misinterpreted as the airline bringing all A380s back to service soon which will not happen.
• Lufthansa already sold 6 of its 14 A380 back to Airbus, of the remaining 8 only 4 will be returned to service in 2023.
• See e. g. aerotelegraph.com - "Six Superjumbos: Lufthansa returns A380s to Airbus" (in German) and up to date from this week reisetopia.de - "Lufthansa reactivates overall four A380s" (in German), further sources and explaination is also found at Lufthansa fleet.

2001:A61:3A94:FC01:B442:1FCB:17EB:8AEC (talk) 08:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

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