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It's cheeney not chayney. Chaney is a different but related name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.200.74 (talk) 12:59, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. Jibal (talk) 01:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Education

A editor is attempting to remove Cheney's attendance at several universities (in the infobox) because he did not obtain degrees there. I am aware of no wiki rule that mandates completion of degrees to place there. Furthermore this is long-standing content that is typical for other bios as well. (See Al Gore's bio for example.) And finally the editor has failed to gain consensus for this change. It has been reverted by both me and Calton. The ONUS is on you (not the other way around.Rja13ww33 (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Footnote #114 is an expired link. Change the link: https://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/cheney-authorized-libby-to-leak-classified-information-20060209/ to the archive.org link: https://web.archive.org/web/20110804035648/https://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/cheney-authorized-libby-to-leak-classified-information-20060209/ 181.55.61.129 (talk) 23:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: Relevant citation has been updated to automatically send the reader to the archived version which was already present within said citation. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 18:59, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In the portion of the Dick Cheney article that discusses his being compared to Darth Vader, include the quote from source 184 where he says "After all, Darth Vader is one of the nicer things I've been called recently." 174.83.14.34 (talk) 02:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There is no need to include the quote, as it is sufficiently summarized. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Liz Cheney is no longer the member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Wyoming's at-large district as of January 3, 2023

Please change: "Liz, congresswoman from Wyoming since 2017, is married to Philip J. Perry, a former General Counsel of the Department of Homeland Security."

To: "Liz, former congresswoman from Wyoming, is married to Philip J. Perry, a former General Counsel of the Department of Homeland Security."

Or: "Liz is married to Philip J. Perry, a former General Counsel of the Department of Homeland Security." Brandeman (talk) 03:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kornatice (talk) 03:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Birth of daughter inaccuracy

The article states "October 6, 1965, the draft was expanded to include married men without children; Cheney's first daughter, Elizabeth, was born 9 months and two days later."

This statement has been published numerous major outlet, and this article cites to a few. The problem is that none of those articles are correct from a mathematical standpoint.

Liz Cheney was born on July 28, 1966

October 6, 1965 to July 28, 1966 is 9 months and 22 days, not 9 months and 2 days. Someone at a newspaper didn't hit the 2 key twice and nobody has checked the calculation since.

Calculation: https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=10&d1=6&y1=1965&m2=07&d2=28&y2=1966

Please fix this since I can't. It's a perfect example of Wikipedia being MORE accurate than some longstanding news organizations. 174.45.36.20 (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Further review indicates that the duration is correct, but the date Wikipedia lists for the selective service's change is incorrect: It was October 26, 1965 not October 6.

The original calculation of 9 months 2 days can be found here, where it lists the accurate date of the selective service change as October 26, 1965: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/03/how-dick-cheney-dodged-the-draft.html

The Washington Post article to which it cites lists the same date, October 26, 1965: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/04/03/the-unsettling-calm-of-dick-cheney/9b1e7d68-a1c5-413d-8f4e-2a22cd409afa/ 174.45.36.20 (talk) 00:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 95: / Line 95: @@
 Please fix this since I can't. It's a perfect example of Wikipedia being MORE accurate than some longstanding news organizations. [[Special:Contributions/174.45.36.20|174.45.36.20]] ([[User talk:174.45.36.20|talk]]) 00:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
+:Further review indicates that the duration is correct, but the date Wikipedia lists for the selective service's change is incorrect: It was October <u>2</u>6, 1965 not October 6.
+:The original calculation of 9 months 2 days can be found here, where it lists the accurate date of the selective service change as October 26, 1965: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/03/how-dick-cheney-dodged-the-draft.html
+:The Washington Post article to which it cites lists the same date, October 26, 1965: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/04/03/the-unsettling-calm-of-dick-cheney/9b1e7d68-a1c5-413d-8f4e-2a22cd409afa/ [[Special:Contributions/174.45.36.20|174.45.36.20]] ([[User talk:174.45.36.20|talk]]) 00:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)