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March 9
Request on 02:40:40, 9 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by MaMingRoberto
- MaMingRoberto (talk · contribs) (TB)
MaMingRoberto (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
My article was declined because:
"Almost all of the content in this BLP article is uncited. Work needs to be done to add reliable, independent sources with significant coverage that establish notability."
All the information in the article is verified in the press that is listed in the third paragraph under press mentions and citied in the "external links" section. If I move those press citations up to the body of the article as footnotes would that fix the problem?
Thank you
- Hello, MaMingRoberto. Wikipedia articles summarize the significant coverage that reliable, independent sources devote to the topic and references to those sources are used inline in the body of the article. Your draft only has one reference, to an academic journal article about something different. That's bizarre. Can you explain that? You have a lot of external links. Those in the body of the article should be removed. If any of them are of value and are useful as references, then they need to be properly formatted as references, and placed in the proper places in the body of the draft. External links are not references. Cullen328 (talk) 04:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @MaMingRoberto Please click on WP:REFB. David10244 (talk) 07:28, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
04:12:35, 9 March 2023 review of draft by Eddy Oliveira Designer
I wanted help to be able to publish this page in English version, since this page would be a variation of the original one in Portuguese. I couldn't understand which reliable sources were mentioned in the refusal of the page.
Eddy Oliveira Designer (talk) 04:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Eddy Oliveira Designer: the entire 'Biography' section, which constitutes almost the whole body text of the article, is unreferenced. This would be a problem in any article, but especially so in one on a living person, see WP:BLP. Please ensure that every material statement, anything potentially contentious, and all private personal details are clearly supported by citations to reliable published sources.
- Note also that just because this person has been deemed to warrant an article in pt.wiki, doesn't automatically guarantee acceptance into en.wiki, so you need to make sure that the subject meets our notability standards such as WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
05:32:42, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Xkalponik
The page has been rejected, and I've been suggested to see WP:NPOL. I did, and it states, Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage are notable". The draft's subject is a major politician, he's a presidium member of the main opposition and one of the biggest political parties of the nation. He's been subject to numerous press coverage throughout his career. Would a reviewer reconsider this? Thanks. X (talk) 05:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Xkalponik it also states
Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.
Standard coverage about campaigns is generally considered trivial and what a subject says is not independent so cannot be used to establish notability. S0091 (talk) 17:00, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
06:04:39, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Mambomo
tried editing some references, of the artist Mambomo (talk) 06:04, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Mambomo Unfortunately, the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. (The external links you provided are not inline references as described in WP:REFB). Please do not resubmit it. David10244 (talk) 07:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
08:14:34, 9 March 2023 review of draft by Sahupankaj
- Sahupankaj (talk · contribs) (TB)
Trying to create wiki page but not able to understand which section of the content to be removed or edited.
Sahupankaj (talk) 08:14, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Request on 08:38:19, 9 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Sahupankaj
- Sahupankaj (talk · contribs) (TB)
Sahupankaj (talk) 08:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is your question, @Sahupankaj? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
08:53:11, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Markjiang8
- Markjiang8 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi teachers, I wrote an article about a company, but that company doesn't have any English references, What can I do for choose those references and improve article quality? Thanks for your help.
Markjiang8 (talk) 08:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Markjiang8: I'm no teacher, but I'll reply while waiting for one... Sources don't need to be in English, but they do need to be reliable and independent, and to provide significant coverage of the subject. The reviewer is contending that the sources cited are insufficient to establish notability per WP:ORGCRIT.
- I would add that the draft is quite promotional and peacocky in nature, veering into the ADMASQ territory.
- I've also posted a COI query on your user page, please read and action that as your next step. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
10:01:11, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Verflix7
Hey! I wanted to create a wikipedia article about Railsponsible. Railsponsible is a sustainability initiative of the railway industry, and it exists already since 2015. Also Wikipedia articles on comparable initiatives exist (e.g. Together for Sustainability), so I was wondering why my submission got declined. What do I have to change? Thank you in advance! Verflix7 (talk) 10:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Verflix7: did you read the decline notice? For notability per WP:GNG, we need to see multiple independent and reliable secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject. The draft currently only cites the organisation's own website, and one other source which may or may not meet the GNG criteria but in any case is alone not enough. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
13:07:17, 9 March 2023 review of submission by GMorris419
- GMorris419 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I need help understanding how my article (Sugar Valley Rural Charter School) is not meeting the qualifications to become an article.
GMorris419 (talk) 13:07, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GMorris419: because, as was repeatedly pointed out by the reviewers, notability per WP:GNG requires significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources, and none of ones cited meets this standard. In any case, this draft has now been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:50, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I understand that my citations do not meet this standard, but I do not understand how they do not meet this standard. It seems the sources I used are impartial, non-biased, reliable, and secondary. GMorris419 (talk) 15:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sources 1-3 are just stats and directory listings; source 4, while arguably the best of the lot, is little more than a passing mention; and 5-6 are routine business reporting. None of these provides the sort of significant coverage required to establish notability (and even if 4 did, which IMO it doesn't, it alone isn't enough, as we need multiple sources). HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:23, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I understand that my citations do not meet this standard, but I do not understand how they do not meet this standard. It seems the sources I used are impartial, non-biased, reliable, and secondary. GMorris419 (talk) 15:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
14:46:45, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Mspendl828
- Mspendl828 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, could someone please help me with this submission?
It has been declined for not being supported by reliable sources, I have cited five different sources for the information in the article, including the BBC, NME and the Guardian newspaper.
I don't believe there's anything in the article which isn't taken from the sources referred in the article.
I'd really appreciate if someone can let me know what I'm doing wrong.
Thank you!
Mspendl828 (talk) 14:46, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Mspendl828: it is true that you have cited five sources, of which some, but not all, can certainly be considered reliable. You may wish to ask the declining reviewer directly what they found lacking in that respect.
- Personally, I would still decline this, albeit for a different reason, namely lack of notability. The sources are all about the single event, of Arkin being signed up to a record label, and aren't IMO sufficient to establish notability per WP:GNG. As for WP:MUSICBIO notability, a single album with no particular list, certification, etc. merits isn't enough to meet this notability standard, either. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:48, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for the reply and for helping clarify the submission requirements. I really appreciate it :) Mspendl828 (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
15:57:39, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Catherineailsamacintosh
- Catherineailsamacintosh (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Catherineailsamacintosh (talk) 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Catherineailsamacintosh (talk) 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)I have been advised that my submission "Bob Giles architect" does not comply with requirements because "fails the first non-free content criterion." I take this to be because 2 of the images are marked "copyright Bob Giles" and the third is marked "copyright
Simon Kennedy". Both these individuals have agreed to waive their copyright. Should I therefore simply remove the note on the origins of those images?15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Catherineailsamacintosh (talk)
- Hi @Catherineailsamacintosh: the notice on your talk page refers specifically to the File:Bob Giles, architect.pdf only, which isn't even referenced in the draft, and therefore has nothing to do with why the draft was declined. The reason it was declined is because it is insufficiently referenced, with many paragraphs and even entire sections without a single citation. This would be a problem in any article, and especially so in articles on living people. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
17:10:33, 9 March 2023 review of submission by PhoenixBrmnzo
- PhoenixBrmnzo (talk · contribs) (TB)
PhoenixBrmnzo (talk) 17:10, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'd like to ask why a draft article was declined. May I know the reason(s)? Thanks.
- Hello, you have not specified what article you are inquiring on. Please review the instructions under the "Click here to ask a new question." link above and edit your inquiry accordingly. nf utvol (talk) 17:14, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- I added it now. PhoenixBrmnzo (talk) 17:18, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy link Draft:Treatment of prisoners of war in the Greco-Italian War. Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for adding it. PhoenixBrmnzo (talk) 17:28, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy link Draft:Treatment of prisoners of war in the Greco-Italian War. Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- I added it now. PhoenixBrmnzo (talk) 17:18, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
My message was also that this topic/subject needs more research. PhoenixBrmnzo (talk) I understand that it needs more citations. It's all good. Thank you.
17:53:44, 9 March 2023 review of submission by 83.32.100.28
Hello, thanks for your feedback. I am trying to include as many reliable sources from Internet in English and Hebrew. Snir Zano is a well-known entrepreneur in Israel. I ask you to please reconsider the decision of declining this article and letting me know what I can do to amend it.
83.32.100.28 (talk) 17:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- See below. S0091 (talk) 16:52, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
17:56:12, 9 March 2023 review of submission by Jackcohenkm72
Jackcohenkm72 (talk) 17:56, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Jackcohenkm72 in order to meet notability, sources need to meet all four requirements: reliable, secondary, independent and cover the subject in-depth. The current sources are either primary and/or not independent. Press releases, interviews or comments by the subject are not useful. Also, it appears the sources are about the company rather than Zano so does not provide in-depth coverage about him. The draft has now been rejected so will no longer be considered. S0091 (talk) 16:51, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
March 10
01:34:47, 10 March 2023 review of submission by Airborne84
- Airborne84 (talk · contribs) (TB)
After two declined submissions for this article, it is unclear to me why it is not considered notable. I'm requesting a more detailed rationale. Clarification will enable me and other editors to address those specific shortfalls. There are currently three in-depth, reliable, secondary, and independent sources on this topic. There is a three-page article in Paper Mayhem magazine, a nearly full-page review in Space Gamer, and another 351-word stand-alone review in Gaming Universal—all magazines used as sources in many other play-by-mail game articles. What am I missing? Thanks. Airborne84 (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Airborne84 (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I will add that all three publications are independent of the subject, and to my understanding are reliable sources for game-related topics. BOZ (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I accepted it, since it seems you have found additional sources that weren't in the AfD discussion. If I'm not missing something it should be perfectly fine to directly create/move your own draft to mainspace since you have found additional sources since the AfD discussion. Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, and much appreciated! I for one am more comfortable to have someone review a draft in that case who can be more objective than myself. :) BOZ (talk) 11:54, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Help needed
Can someone help me create this page and let me know what the problem is With it not being accepted for publishing..? Many thanks 2A02:3032:D:EEB6:6479:56F:4242:A2F4 (talk) 11:21, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- You need to tell us which 'page' you're referring to. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
11:53:06, 10 March 2023 review of submission by 2600:4040:937B:1B00:7D56:1A56:4D46:D1C5
2600:4040:937B:1B00:7D56:1A56:4D46:D1C5 (talk) 11:53, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Your draft is just a copy of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
14:31:21, 10 March 2023 review of draft by Roosra
I would like some advice how to make this an accepted page. I understand Management 3.0 is a niche, and not as big as Scrum. Still, almost 18.000 people attended the workshops, 485 trainers, and active in 155 countries. Only. this is only published on their own website. I wanted to start small with this article, and it can grow in the future.
Roosra (talk) 14:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Roosra: we need to see what multiple independent and reliable sources have, purely of their own volition, said or written about the topic. This is called in the Wikipedia world 'notability', and is a core requirement for any article to be published, regardless of its size. Your draft currently cites no such sources, as all the references lead to Jurgen Appelo, therefore notability is not established, and there is no evidence that this term is being widely discussed rather than being merely a neologism. Please add sources that meet the WP:GNG criteria before resubmitting. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:49, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
20:46:50, 10 March 2023 review of draft by Devin Bender
- Devin Bender (talk · contribs) (TB)
Devin Bender (talk) 20:46, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
20:46:50, 10 March 2023 review of submission by Devin Bender
- Devin Bender (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
I recently attempted to create a Wikipedia page on the "August Wilson Journal." Already there is a Wikipedia page on August Wilson, however, my goal was to create a new page that was more focused on the journal. When I went to submit it I was told about my sources. I went ahead and revised my current sources (making sure the citation was correct) and added some more to back up my page. I am confused about if this is what needed to be fixed and just looking for a bit more clarification on this. Thank you, Devin Bender (talk) 20:46, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Devin Bender yes, sources are required not only support the claims made for verifiability but also to prove the subject is notable. Simply existing is not enough and notability is not inherited so its connection to August Wilson matters not. You may find this essay about establishing the notability for journals helpful. S0091 (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
March 11
Why was my article declined
Courtesy link: Draft:Good Party
My article was declined and i dont know why UrFathermaybeblind (talk) 04:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @UrFathermaybeblind: it was declined for the reasons stated in the decline notice, specifically inside the two grey boxes within the large pink box; to wit, lack of evidence of notability, and promotional nature of the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Cubic Castles
I'm posting this message in regards to the decline of my draft on the 2014 indie game Cubic Castles. Draft:Cubic Castles The decline message said I did not use reliable sources even though the sources I was using was from the official secondary wiki for the game. I apologize if I got anything wrong and if you can direct me on the requirements to get it published. Thanks! - Slug9k — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slug9k (talk • contribs) 10:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Slug9k We don't need the whole url when you link to another Wikipedia draft or article, simply place the title of the target page in double brackets like this [[Joe Biden]] displays as Joe Biden. I've fixed this for you here.
- Wiki type sources are not considered reliable sources as they are user-editable(just as Wikipedia is not a reliable source). An article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the game. For games, that is typically independent reviews/assessments of the game. If you have no independent sources, the game would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if this is wrong, but the wiki is made by the Cosmic Cow, (the developers of the game) and they have made it to where editing cannot be accessed by others. I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear before. Slug9k (talk) 10:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- In that case then it is a primary source and still not does not count towards the inclusion criteria. We need to see others have taken the time right about the subject on their own accord and had it published by a reliable source. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 22:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if this is wrong, but the wiki is made by the Cosmic Cow, (the developers of the game) and they have made it to where editing cannot be accessed by others. I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear before. Slug9k (talk) 10:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
13:37:06, 11 March 2023 review of submission by Swiss Rhone Ranger
- Swiss Rhone Ranger (talk · contribs) (TB)
Thanks for reaching out. I'm not an editor nor do I wish to become one. We are wine growers in the northern Rhone in Switzerland. We are the Swiss Rhone Rangers. It's a not for profit organisation based in Switzerland founded 2 years ago. There are no other references to the Swiss Rhone Rangers as it's a new association. There are however Rhone Rangers ie. wine makers producing Rhone type wines in the US (California) in Austrialia and South Africa. In other words Swiss Rhone Rangers are simply Swiss wine growers growing Rhone wine. I find no references to this and I've searched wikipedia and found no references to the Swiss Rhone Rangers. We are Swiss. We are Rhone based and are Rangers. Any and all help appreciated. MTIA Swiss Rhone Ranger (talk) 13:37, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Don't write articles about yourself. I think you would have more success in getting listed at https://www.winetourism.com/wineries-in-rhone-wine-region/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Dolores Cannon
Today I translated the Dutch article about Dolores Cannon to English. Soon a draft was made of it. I translated the text and sources literally, so I wonder why it was not approved? In my opinion, it is just a decent article. S. Perquin (talk) (discover the power of thankfulness!) – 17:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @S. Perquin each Wikipedia language is its own project with its own policies and guidelines. Generally, the English Wikipedia is more strict as far as notability guidelines. Please read through the linked documentation in the decline message which outlines the notability criteria. If you have additional questions, you can ask here or at the Teahouse. S0091 (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
22:10:37, 11 March 2023 review of submission by Andrewsmith12345
- Andrewsmith12345 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Andrewsmith12345 you are wasting your time more importantly the time of Wikipedia's volunteers . See also the deletion log. S0091 (talk) 22:20, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- My time is just as important how can you work out that volunteers time is more important than mine Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Because you are likely a sock, see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Drug Addicts Anonymous so I will be filing an investigation. Best you just go away and save everyone time. S0091 (talk) 22:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- File your investigation and get a kick out of being a keyboard warrior. Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- No help whatsoever on here about as much use as a chocolate teapot Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- File your investigation and get a kick out of being a keyboard warrior. Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Because you are likely a sock, see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Drug Addicts Anonymous so I will be filing an investigation. Best you just go away and save everyone time. S0091 (talk) 22:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- My time is just as important how can you work out that volunteers time is more important than mine Andrewsmith12345 (talk) 22:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
March 12
03:29:45, 12 March 2023 review of submission by Treepak411
- Treepak411 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Treepak411 (talk) 03:29, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
I posted a brief article about my artistry and my own work and it was denied but I am an emerging talent who is trying very hard to get himself out there — I am on Spotify as a verified artist and on Soundcloud as well with a family is semi-famous. Please reconsider this article —I would so genuinely appreciate it.
- @Treepak411: notability cannot be inherited from your family. I don't see how you meet the notability guide for musicians either. Also, please be aware of Wikipedia's autobiography policy. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 03:44, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok…well can you at least write one about my family '' like Steven Spolansky or Jodi Smith (née Spolansky) —I really need reach but I could really appreciate this potential opportunity Treepak411 (talk) 04:37, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Treepak411 that is counterintuitive to the purpose of Wikipedia, this is an encyclopedia on topics which are already considered notable by our standards. It is not meant to be an avenue of promotion or extending anyone's "reach" . Your time would be better spent elsewhere if this is your goal. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:58, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can I just please have an article? Treepak411 (talk) 18:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Treepak411 that is counterintuitive to the purpose of Wikipedia, this is an encyclopedia on topics which are already considered notable by our standards. It is not meant to be an avenue of promotion or extending anyone's "reach" . Your time would be better spent elsewhere if this is your goal. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:58, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
08:26:02, 12 March 2023 review of submission by EstezaRemmy
- EstezaRemmy (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Hi everyone on this help page, My first page on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Iconic_Kent_Kris was declined for passing as a Wikipedia Article, and I am stuck on where I did not satisfy the requirements.
If any one here can be of help and assistance to have the page approved, I will be grateful.
Thanks in advance!
EstezaRemmy (talk) 08:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @EstezaRemmy: the draft was declined for lack of notability; the sources cited are interviews and publicity pieces, whereas we need to see what independent and reliable sources have said about him, on their own initiative.
- There is also unreferenced content in the draft, eg. the entire 'Career' section hasn't a single citation. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you @DoubleGrazing for the helpful feedback, so probably as it stands i will have to find more reliable sources before resubmitting for further review, right? EstezaRemmy (talk) 17:31, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @EstezaRemmy: that's correct – you need to find more and better sources to establish notability (see WP:GNG for advice); and on a related but separate point, you need to support the contents better, using more citations. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you @DoubleGrazing for the helpful feedback, so probably as it stands i will have to find more reliable sources before resubmitting for further review, right? EstezaRemmy (talk) 17:31, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Request on 09:58:43, 12 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by DanielChutzpah
- DanielChutzpah (talk · contribs) (TB)
I'm requesting a review since I don't understand what the problem is with the draft article I submitted. The article respects Wikipedia's standards and I have been taking into account all of the reviews I received from previous reviewers. I, again, modified the draft article today to respect as much as possible the guidelines and policy of Wikiepdia and would appreciate that the article be published (or that at least I know why it's not...). Thank you in advance.
I am by the way associated with the subject of the article, as stated explicitely.
DanielChutzpah (talk) 09:58, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @DanielChutzpah: this draft has been rejected, which means it won't be considered further. If you wish to challenge that, you need to do so directly with the reviewer who rejected it, and you need to have substantive grounds for doing so.
- I should probably add that if I were reviewing this now, I would be declining it for insufficient referencing, as quite a lot of the content is either unreferenced or referenced using inadequate sources. There are also many other issues with this. Which is to say, the draft would need quite a lot of work to bring it up to required standards, so don't expect it to be simply waved trough as-is. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello DoubleGrazing and thanks for your reply and explanation.
- Do you mind expanding a little on the referencing? Which parts are not referenced adequately according to you? Because as it is, everything looks very solid to me.
- Please feel free to answer me in private if this forum is not appropriate.
- Thank you in advance.
- ?
- ? 2A0D:6FC2:5FB2:B400:C9A3:A3A1:1F33:81A2 (talk) 10:59, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't want to get too much into it, as this has been rejected and as such is not viable content, but:
- Sources like Amazon, Baidu, PRNewsWire and YouTube are generally not considered reliable.
- Forbes' editorial content is usually reliable, but their contributors are often not independent, and their writings are not subject to editorial oversight; see WP:FORBESCON.
- Anything written by Arieli herself needs to be corroborated by an independent source. For example, the statement that she served as a Lieutenant in Unit 8200 is referenced only by an article she wrote.
- Per WP:BLP, all material statements, anything potentially contentious, and private personal details such as DOB, educational achievements and family members all need to be backed up by clearly citing reliable published sources.
- My hunch is, you've written what your client or employer wanted you to write, and then cited some sources to support some of it. What you should do instead is summarise what reliable published sources have said about her, no more, no less, citing the sources as you go. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. DanielChutzpah (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't want to get too much into it, as this has been rejected and as such is not viable content, but:
11:36:51, 12 March 2023 review of submission by 2600:4040:937B:1B00:8D0F:1F63:EB74:6FE4
2600:4040:937B:1B00:8D0F:1F63:EB74:6FE4 (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Firstly, this draft has been rejected.
- Secondly, this is just a copy of an existing article, as pointed out in the review comments, as well as on this page two days ago.
- And thirdly, you don't ask a question. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:45, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
12:19:22, 12 March 2023 review of draft by WriterGP
Query about which citation form to use.
I am quoting from an article accessed via the British Newspaper Archive. Is this the correct way of citing?
Another citation for an article, accessed the same way, refers to an article with no title. How should I cite this?
Many thanks.
References
- ^ Christmas, Linda (1969-03-07). "It's all a dream to Irene Evans..." Middlesex County Times. Retrieved 2023-03-08.
WriterGP (talk) 12:19, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
22:18:55, 12 March 2023 review of draft by Antivoid
I tried to submit an earlier version of this draft, but it was rejected due to lacking sources. The original article had no sources so I had to look for some. I found two of them, but I'm not sure if I'll need to add more sources.
Antivoid (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Antivoid: the draft has only two sources, which isn't really enough to establish notability per WP:GNG. Moreover, it has only three citations, leaving the vast majority of the content unsupported, begging the obvious question – where is all this information coming from? So yes, you will need to add more sources, and cite them throughout the text, so that it is clear which source supports what content. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- So will I be able to have a minor page if I add kore resources (about two) Treepak411 (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
23:39:58, 12 March 2023 review of submission by PIRINATION
- PIRINATION (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello! My article was denied and I'm curious as to why. Thanks!
PIRINATION (talk) 23:39, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @PIRINATION Welcome to the Teahouse. The reasons why are given in the big gray box in the draft, after the words "Submission declined". In that explanation, the words or phrases in blue (or possibly purple) are clickable links. Clicking those links, and reading all of the information given, should answer your question.
- Writing a new article is hard until you are familiar with all of the rules and guidelines. I'll give a partial answer to your question: several sections in your draft have no citations. For example, where did the information in the "Early life" section come from? Where did you learn all of that? The assertions in that section (and throughout the draft) must be backed with references showing the sources of the info. David10244 (talk) 08:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
March 14
Request on 01:28:27, 14 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by UrFathermaybeblind
- UrFathermaybeblind (talk · contribs) (TB)
I want to know what was the reason for the decline and how could i get it published
UrFathermaybeblind (talk) 01:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- UrFathermaybeblind (talk · contribs) (TB)
Can you please tell me how can i get this published all the things are provided the references the website what is the problem then can you advise me to get it published
UrFathermaybeblind (talk) 02:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @UrFathermaybeblind: the reason for the declines has been provided by the reviewers, namely that the draft is virtually unreferenced with no evidence of notability, as well as being promotional in nature. In any case, this has been rejected and won't be considered further at this stage. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
05:22:36, 14 March 2023 review of submission by Z812483032
- Z812483032 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have rewritten the content that may have caused controversy, so I have resubmitted it for review and inspection. I would greatly appreciate it if you could guide me on how to improve the content I submit. Thank you.
Z812483032 (talk) 05:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Z812483032: this draft has been rejected and won't therefore be considered further; not because it "caused controversy", but because it is not written as an encyclopaedia article (see WP:NOT). It is also entirely unreferenced, suggesting that it may be original research or synthesis. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
07:52:02, 14 March 2023 review of draft by Ben wid
Hi, I created a draft (Draft: Christoph Ingenhoven). One reaction to that was negative, which I can't understand. Will my contribution be checked again? I would be happy to explain why I consider the article to be suitable and important information for the English Wikipedia.
Ben wid (talk) 07:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ben wid: it's not clear whether you already resubmitted the draft or something just went wrong with the AfC tags, but either way it is back in the pending pool, so I would suggest you simply wait for the re-review. (BTW, please don't edit the AfC tags, they form a record of the draft's progress through the system. Thanks.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ino. it seems to be working now Ben wid (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Request on 12:51:39, 14 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Georgealexandar
- Georgealexandar (talk · contribs) (TB)
George alexandar A (talk) 12:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Georgealexandar: you don't ask a question, but your sandbox draft was rejected and deleted. Please note that this is an encyclopaedia, not LinkedIn or classified ads. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
18:33:45, 14 March 2023 review of submission by Paulboy
Hello! I am working on creating a page for Camila Coelho, one of the biggest creators and entrepreneurs from the original 2009 blogger era that is a top creator to this date (was on Forbes 2022 creator list, CEO of two businesses), but I am running into some trouble despite having about 30 credible sources. Any help would be appreciated. She has been on GMA, CBS This Morning, interviews with Vogue U.S., Elle U.S., InStyle U.S., Harper's Bazaar U.S., People Magazine U.S., Business Insider U.S., Women's Wear Daily (WWD), Business of Fashion, and many more, including far spanning International titles. WWD has ranked Camila as the talent who brings the most media value to New York and Paris Fashion Week multiple times in the last 2 years. I have found many, many smaller creators in the same space who have lenghty pages, while Camila has been a prominent creator for 13 years. Please note there is only one Forbes contributor interview, the Forbes lists are from the editorial board, including financial audits, and are completely separate from contributors.
Paulboy (talk) 18:33, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Paulboy: you've improved the draft, and resubmitted it; now you need to wait for its next review. Or do you have a question you wish to ask? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
22:58:20, 14 March 2023 review of draft by WikiNikki0127
- WikiNikki0127 (talk · contribs) (TB)
WikiNikki0127 (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I submitted an article for review on 3/10. I've been working to get this article published for a while now. I believe I had finally removed all of the "nonreliable" sources and included all of the reliable sources possible. I was waiting to receive the email that it was declined or approved, but I never got one. I logged back in today to see the status and it shows that I never submitted it on 3/10 on the main draft page. I have to look at the View History page to see that. My View History page has strange notes that I do not understand...any help would be appreciated.
curprev 06:20, 14 March 2023 174.212.224.64 talk 6,733 bytes −448 →Notable Alumni: not notable. See WP:ALUMNI and WP:WTAF undo 12 March 2023 curprev 13:52, 12 March 2023 174.212.224.64 talk 7,181 bytes +335 This draft has been rejected. Do not resubmit. undo Tag: Undo 10 March 2023 curprev 16:19, 10 March 2023 WikiNikki0127 talk contribs 6,846 bytes +63 Submitting using AfC-submit-wizard undo Tag: Reverted curprev 16:18, 10 March 2023 WikiNikki0127 talk contribs m 6,783 bytes −398 removed nonreliable sources. undo Tags: Reverted
23:36:13, 14 March 2023 review of submission by Ttwkr
Dear reviews, I think there's a huge mistake here. He's a notable person, probably there's a need for more sources. Let me know
Thank you Ttwkr (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
March 15
Request on 01:47:15, 15 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by UrFathermaybeblind
- UrFathermaybeblind (talk · contribs) (TB)
i am not resumiting the article it is automatically getting resubmited and i dont know why