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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Theroadislong,

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Theroadislong,

New Page Review queue December 2022

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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Draft submissions

Hello, I just submitted two draft articles: namely, Draft:Wilmington and Western 58 and Draft:Columbia River Belt Line 7. Would you like to approve them and redirect them into proper articles? Larrysteamfan (talk) 04:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong (talk) 07:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Indoor Advertising

Hi, I just submitted two drafts of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Indoor_Advertising. Please consider the later because is has some errors corrected. Thank you. Fraredemptor (talk) 09:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

As you have been told the draft is "riddled with problems" tone is not appropriate and we already have an article on advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 09:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

My article refers to a specific form of advertising - indoor advertising. This is different from put of home advertising and this is the sole purpose of my article. I have tried to correct the problems of my article. Please take a look at it. Fraredemptor (talk) 10:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I suggest you ask for help here Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk Theroadislong (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I followed your advice but I didn t get any replay. So what should I do now? are you going to revise my draft once more or not? it s been a week since my last attempt to post my text but i didn t get any answer. Fraredemptor (talk) 07:35, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

You can re-submit Draft:Indoor Advertising for review, I won't review it again, I don't think we need a separate article on indoor advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong why did you deny my draft

Why? Numberblockfan22323 (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

The reason is in the pink box, the topic is not notable. Theroadislong (talk) 21:05, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Alf Webster

You may find this one interesting. I declined it due to inadequate sourcing, though. S0091 (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Oooh yes that looks promising, I'll see what I can find on them. Theroadislong (talk) 18:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Great! It will hopefully be a nice change from reviewing some of not so interesting stuff not to mention the loads of crap we get. S0091 (talk) 19:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes a very pleasant change to find a nugget amongst the dross. Theroadislong (talk) 19:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Cheers to nuggets! S0091 (talk) 19:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

GPTZero Draft

Hello Sir,

You declined this page as it was inadequate for submission, page link - Draft:GPTZero

I made a proper page on this same topic that got declined because of the above existing draft, Link to my page - Draft:GPTZERO

Please advice me, what i am supposed to do in this case? As i took alot of time drafting mine for submission, yet the existing one is declined with one line of code Yabancii (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC) Yabancii (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

The draft that I declined as a test edit, had a single line “GPTZero is an AI detector” you should edit the other draft and blank the test one. Theroadislong (talk) 09:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay Sir, i was able to contact the person with the single line draft, he will delete his draft.

and then we will re-submit our main draft.

Thank you so much for replying back.

Yabancii (talk) 10:09, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2023

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Request on 14:03:21, 29 April 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Varun Godham

• Varun Godham (talk · contribs)
  • User:Varun Godham/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Varun Godham (talk) 14:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Your draft needs to show how the subject passes the criteria at WP:NWRITER, also note that blogs and YouTube are not usually reliable sources.

The Fourteen of Meaux

Thanks, mate. I kind of promised the creator to help with this, but didn't get around to it. Good to know you've accepted it now. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes though strangely they had messed the draft up again with this edit [1] It looks Ok now though and an interesting topic. Theroadislong (talk) 07:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Theroadislong: Thank you for your continuing patient and kind support but I have to say that, at my advanced age, I do not believe I have the faculty to easily assimilate these tortuous instructions and the technical language required to meet the required standards for acceptance of my submission. This you have long mastered as evidenced by your great experience and contributions over such a long period. Would it be therefore impudent of me (in noting your positive remarks about my subject to DoubleGrazing) be prepared (if protocols allow) to complete my contribution to an acceptable standard under your name? It is, I firmly believe, of considerable theistic importance to the Protestant movement in France and to the history of Meaux in particular that the history of The Fourteen of Meaux should have its' place in Wikipedia. If this be impertinence I will not be offended to be told and I will persevere but question my ability, at 93, to complete before Azrael gathers me into his arms. Deo volente! Rowbarton. Rowbarton (talk) 05:27, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Rowbarton As previously advised on your talk page, your article was accepted on 30th April you can see it if you click the link here The Fourteen of Meaux. Theroadislong (talk) 07:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Regarding bKash Limited Wikipedia Article

Hello Theroadislong, can you please mention why I used copyrighted content? All the informations given on the article is from the official website of bKash Limited. Hence, it will be really helpful if you could inform me about the copyrighted details so that I can recover accordingly. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 12:43, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Exactly Sakib.mahboob, you also said in your edit summary "All the informations are taken from their official website: https://www.bkash.com/en/about" you CANNOT copy and paste content from their site, we have no interest in what their own website says in any case, we need independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:47, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Theroadislong. I have updated the writeup and did it on my own. Now, I have not copied from any article/website rather did the writeup which I used on my University assignment. Requesting you to please check and approve. I am really eager on Wikipedia and want to be an active participant. If it is possible, I will be very glad to learn more from you. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 13:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit it was entirely promotional an unsourced, please STOP. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

bKash Information Update

Hi, I have tagged you on the Talk section of bKash Board of Director section. Please have a look. I think it is an important information and has to be updated. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding User:IndieVest/sandbox

Hello, Theroadislong. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:IndieVest/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 10:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Gary Hutton

Hi @Theroadislong,

Thank you for getting back.

The Interior Design industry regard is driven primarily by published interior design projects, ‘design’ focused features and thought leadership in interviews, dialogues, teaching, books and published articles.  

An attempt has been made to establish Gary’s notability and cite reliable, in-depth sources.

Amongst all the cited sources, which ones can be retained to get the Wiki approved? SKCOTT (talk) 17:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The sources you have added are an improvement on what was there, do you have an undisclosed conflict of interest by any chance? the personal life section has zero sources where did the content come from? With regard to establishing notability Wikipedia ignores interviews and dialogues as they are not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 17:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Some questions

1.If we don't find any independent resources on the topic on which we want to make an article, will an article on that topic can enter wikipedia article space?

2.how you write an article on those topics which don't have any reliable or independent sources? Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are based on reliable independent sources, if they don't exist then we can't have an article on that topic. Theroadislong (talk) 08:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Ponniyin Selvan: II

Can you please accept it now? The mainspace article is a redirect now tagged for deletion. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Hi! I don't know how I've come here, but an article I've created does not exist. I do not understand how this project works now, but I worked hard on it. Having read some of the policies, it's up for some review, and you're on that list. Can you review it for me? דפישולץ (talk) 12:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

It's Draft:Ayala Hasson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by דפישולץ (talk • contribs) 12:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

I'll be very grateful if you do it for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by דפישולץ (talk • contribs) 12:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

@דפישולץ: please stop posting your request on reviewers' talk pages; the draft has been submitted, and someone will get around to it sooner or later, you don't need to personally request reviews. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Please specify

Hello sir/madam

I saw that you declined my submission on the Wiki page about Korat Adveentist International School. Can you please be more specific about where it wasn't neutral? Thanks. Airuang3004 (talk) 01:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

The whole draft is just blatant advertising for the school, all the sources are their own website, we have zero interest in what that says. Sources need to be independent. Theroadislong (talk) 07:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:IndieVest/sandbox

Hello, Theroadislong. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Honorary Ranks, Penny Mordaunt

In the UK, honorary titles are not put before a name. The topic of Mordaunt's honorary rank is also open on the talk page. Can you go to that before reverting edits, please? Catiline63 (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Apologies, I was reverting the idiotic censorship of "cock" which your edit re-added! Theroadislong (talk) 10:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks :) Catiline63 (talk) 10:45, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for your support of the Michael Felts article! Can the notability warning be removed? I am wary of doing it myself for fear of seeming biased. -Etoile ✩ (talk) 15:16, 9 May 2023 (UTC) I am also wary, maybe leave it a while and see if others add more references. Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Some Questions 2

Can we use school website as a "reference" for staff details and student enrollment details in school articles? Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 04:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes you can but the draft still fails WP:NSCHOOL and YouTube is not a reliable source, neither are listings. Theroadislong (talk) 07:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Except the problem you stated in my draft, what other problems are there in my draft? and what improvements can be done ?

Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Keith Thompson (Musician)

Hi, Thank you for your input with this. I have made several corrections and re-written sections. I have put in verifiable references to the main body....but how do I verify the personal information such as, he is married with 3 children etc.........and/or do I need to verify this?

Many Thanks

KathyAustin KA23 (talk) 07:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

You absolutely MUST reference any personal details per WP:BLP, that entire section is unsourced at the moment where did you find the content? Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)`

Admin

Hey! Keep seeing you at AFC. Have you ever considered adminship? Very few admins work at AFC. We could so use an admin at AFC. If you’ve been around this long with your experience and never gone for it, you probably have no interest I guess. But you’d be great? — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

I have been asked a number of times, but could really do without the extra stress involved! Theroadislong (talk) 11:36, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

[Bishzilla amused.] Bishonen admin, she never stress! Laziest user on Wikipedia! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 11:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC).