Talk:Daniel Day-Lewis

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2023

I am Victoria Belfrage, Daniel Day-Lewis's agent. I need you to edit the following ASAP please:

FIRST EDIT Under the 'Early life and education' section, in the second paragraph, you need to delete the second half of it. Please delete the following, it's incorrect: "Day-Lewis had to deal with tough South London children. At this school, he was bullied for being both Jewish and "posh".[20][21] He mastered the local accent and mannerisms, and credits that as being his first convincing performance.[21][22] Later in life, he has been known to speak of himself as a disorderly character in his younger years, often in trouble for shoplifting and other petty crimes.[22][23]"

SECOND EDIT Under the 'Personal life' section, in the fourth paragraph, after the first sentence ends ' ...die-hard agnostic'. And before the second sentence begins 'In 2012, he donated....' we will need to have you insert the following:

"In 2011, Daniel Day-Lewis was inducted into the American Academy of Arts & Sciences. In 2012, he received an Honorary Degree from University College, Dublin. In 2013, he received an Honorary Degree from The Juilliard School. In 2015, Day-Lewis received an Honorary Doctorate from Goldsmiths, University of London. And in 2020, he was awarded an Honorary Doctorate from Birmingham City University." VivVic17* (talk) 15:42, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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When ready to proceed, kindly open a new edit request on this talk page. Regards,  Spintendo  22:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

British or English

The citation support for describing this actor as English, rather than British, seems very thin. The citation attached to the opening sentence of the lead includes a single isolated self-reference to himself as an “Englishman” (which I would casually make of myself), but that fact remains that, legally and by his citizenship, he is British. Encyclopedia Britannica describes him as a British actor.[1] As does the American Academy of Arts & Sciences.[2] As does Amazon.[3] And IMDB.[4] As does Canadian CBC.[5] As did the UK Guardian.[6] As did the respected US publication, Hollywood Reporter, announcing his retirement.[7] As did the US Variety website, at around the same time.[8].

Around the English-speaking world, he is known as a (retired) British actor, and the cited support for describing him as English when he remains a British citizen is extremely thin. Review the rest of the opening paragraph of our article’s lead, and you will see that these link to a fair few additional citations. Several of these refer to DDL as British; none to him as English. MoS policies on biographical articles place a premium on citizenship and deprecate references to nationality or ethnicity. Hence the case for describing Day-Lewis according to his citizenship appears overwhelming. MapReader (talk) 15:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Daniel Day Lewis emphasizes his 'Englishness' in most interviews he gives, in his last prominent interview with W magazine, Daniel reinforces his English identity and explains how this has affected his career and parts he was offered and not offered, the 'English' aspect being intrinsic to this. With actors their associated ethnicity/identity is a part of their persona, some make purposeful choices on how they are portrayed and the wiki guide on UK nationalities recognises this. I don't see a reason to force an identity on Daniel just as I wouldn't on Ewan McGregor or someone.Halbared (talk) 20:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Without any citations, that’s just assertion without evidence. There’s no comparison with McGregor, who is widely known and widely described as a Scottish actor. Day-Lewis is widely described as British, and how he is described by most RS governs how he should be described in the WP article, not the views of one editor. The “guide” to which you refer isn’t policy, nor even a guide, but simply an essay; based on one (and, as it happens, not even British) editor’s view. It has no weight whatsoever when it comes to article editing, where we should follow the MoS. MapReader (talk) 21:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

No contrary citations have been offered in two weeks, so it is reasonable to return and edit the main page. MapReader (talk) 19:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Quite right too. Anglophobes will always protest, but Sir Daniel Day-Lewis is a self-professed Englishman, and there's nothing they can do about it. 51.6.69.71 (talk) 19:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)