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Frequently asked questions

Q: There are many "rules" associated with this page. Why?

A: Recent deaths is one of the most-viewed articles in Wikipedia. Deaths in 2023 was one of the most-read Wikipedia articles in 2023, with over 48 million views.[1] It is important that such a high-profile article have factual information presented in a consistent format.

Q: Why are there redlinks or redirects (deceased subject with no Wikipedia article) listed in the article?

A: Many notable people die before a Wikipedia article is written about them. The regular editors of this page have agreed that a death notice without an English-language article may remain for one month after the death, so that an article may develop. If there is no article after one month, then the death notice is removed from the list.

Q: Why is each death sourced by a simple citation only?

A: Each month, over 1000 deaths are reported. If the "cite news" template were used in each entry, the page would be slower to load as each instance of the template is rendered. Editors have decided by consensus to use a simpler cite in the form <ref>[url, title]</ref>.

Q: Why are dead animals sometimes listed in the article?

A: Many animals (like Lonesome George) achieve notability similar to humans during their life. This article reports the death of any notable biological life with its own article, not just humans.

Q: I saw on social media that a notable person has just died. May I add this death to the list?

A: Material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced is removed immediately and without waiting for discussion (WP:BLP). Blogs and social media sites are generally considered to be unreliable. Every death listed must be supported by a reference from a reliable, independent source.

Q: A new month started five days ago. Why are deaths in the old month still appearing here?

A: It takes some time for deaths to be reported in the media and published here. Editors have agreed to keep the old month listed in the article for seven days after the new month begins. After that time, the "old" deaths are transferred to the article Deaths in <old month name>.

Q: Why is there sometimes a date without entries at the top of the page?

A: A new date is added after a new day starts in the time zone that first starts a new day. A relevant time clock can be found here.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 2 times. The weeks in which this happened:

December 31, 2023 to January 6, 2024 (11th)
January 7 to 13, 2024 (9th)

Vandalism

Can we please keep the joke listings to a minimum this year... or better yet, not have any? Look, last year's shenanigans were fun, but they also caused the article to be semi-protected, meaning those of us without accounts couldn't edit it, which is actually coming into play right now as I'm a NASCAR fan (RIP Cale Yarborough) and I don't have an account... NOBODY ADD ANYTHING ABOUT TRUMP OR PUTIN, PLEASE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.225.115 (talk) 15:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but it's already had so many reverted hits that the same protection is now in place as last year, and will probably happen again for 2025 too. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:29, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They need to stop ruining it for the rest of us! It's pissing me off to no end, and if they protect it for 2025 without any good reason... 68.41.225.115 (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cale Yarborough died on 31 Dec. Jay 💬 06:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jay - Cale has been listed at Deaths in December 2023 already. 68.41.225.115 - there's always good reason to protect Deaths pages, as you just found out. By the way, I'm not understanding why you cannot or will not create an account, get autoconfirmed and start editing Deaths? Ref ^(chew)(do) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For best that would be fixed by auto-protecting all the Deaths in... article by MediaWiki:Titleblacklist and non-AC may not edit. Just a random Wikipedian^(talk) 13:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe admins have been approached about supplying auto-protection in previous years and have declined to offer it. Edit: I should have mentioned, the rationale being that each year's "Deaths" title is different by year date, therefore technically a different article. Ref ^(chew)(do) 17:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cindy Morgan

Hello all. I would like some advice on his date of birth. It seems she died aged 72 instead of 69 according to the Palm Beach Post. It says that the sheriff's office has September 29, 1951 for his date of birth. I'm asking myself if she cut years to his age to seems more younger like some actresses do or if the sheriff made an error by taking his date of birth some days ago.[2] Thanks. Danielvis08 (talk) 20:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would likely figure she indeed scaled down her age given the way Hollywood was (probably still is). I don't see official medical records, which the police would've gotten access to, being wrong. Rusted AutoParts 20:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, on search, I'm seeing a vast majority of sources supporting her birth date of 1954. Sometimes there's no actual conspiracy. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay…but this isn’t a case of one newspaper source saying one thing and another newspaper source saying another. One of the sources is the office of the sheriff investigating her death. Rusted AutoParts 03:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, the sheriff doesn't need to (and usually isn't allowed to) see your medical records to tell how old you are, just your ID. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2024 (2)

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Ex-jogador de futebol Paulo Roberto Ferreira Campos, aos 71 anos, de câncer. Jogou no Fluminense de Feira (1972-1975) e Vasco da Gama (1975-1980). 138.59.114.172 (talk) 18:28, 12 January 2024 (UTC) (Translation: Former football player Paulo Roberto Ferreira Campos, aged 71, with cancer. He played for Fluminense de Feira (1972-1975) and Vasco da Gama (1975-1980).)[reply]

Not done - again, please supply sources and post English in English Wikipedia if you can. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 18:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done now, as a source has been found [3]. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Michael Sugrue

Youtuber and a philosopher 105.97.55.174 (talk) 00:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done - no reliable sources available. Please provide something if you know different. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His death was announced yesterday https://www.youtube.com/@dr.michaelsugrue/community 105.97.19.40 (talk) 12:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable source, and YouTube certainly ain't that. Be sensible. Ref ^(chew)(do) 15:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths due to Covid

Is the Covid-related "See also" section at the bottom of the page still necessary in 2024? What does the community think? JimboB (talk) 16:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm neutral on it, to be honest, though I would never have thought about introducing it myself. It's not outside the scope of the subject we deal with, and even now sometimes has relevance to the article within which the link lies. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No longer warrants inclusion. More people die from other causes than COVID. WWGB (talk) 21:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonna wait one more day to see if there's anyone else willing to say something. If not, since I got one answer in favour of deleting it and another neutral, I'll delete it (it also sounds unnecessary to me at this point). JimboB (talk) 20:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Hi. I'm neutral on it, to be honest, though I would never have thought about introducing it myself. It's not outside the scope of the subject we deal with, and even now sometimes has relevance to the article within which the link lies. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 21:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 ::No longer warrants inclusion. More people die from other causes than COVID. [[User:WWGB|WWGB]] ([[User talk:WWGB|talk]]) 21:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
+:::Gonna wait one more day to see if there's anyone else willing to say something. If not, since I got one answer in favour of deleting it and another neutral, I'll delete it (it also sounds unnecessary to me at this point). [[User:JimboB|JimboB]] ([[User talk:JimboB|talk]]) 20:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)