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For many years until [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran&diff=next&oldid=1211304575 this] edit three days ago data from CIA's country factbook has been used in this article's Infobox under religion section. Articles of other countries like [[Syria]] use CIA factbook as well. The new source used three days ago is an unreliable online survey from an unknown website called "GAMAAN" with dubious results. For example, it claims 7.7% of Iran population (87 million) are [[Zoroastrianism|Zoroastrian]] which would be more than 6 million people, while the number of Zoroastrians across the world is no more than ~ 120,000! This source has zero reliability to be used on Wikipedia, It is not clear who with what expertise has conducted such a survey and how it can make such big claims for an entire country. Either official numbers have to be used mentioning that they are official, or if there are concerns with those numbers we can remove all the stats, It is not madatory to have percentages for religious breakdown when reliable data is not available. Just look at [[Lebanon]] e.g. [[User:Sicaspi|Drako]] ([[User talk:Sicaspi|talk]]) 20:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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HDI is incorrect
The HDI given for Iran does not match the source, which should be 0.798, "high".
Religion section needs addressed
I'm sure we've all read the many reports and polls of the rise agnosticism/atheism/non-Islamic worldviews in Iran, but the article lists prominently the clearly state-manipulated "90+% Muslim" stats. We shouldn't be parroting the lines of the Islamic Republic and should make it more clear that Iran is a lot more diverse than the State propaganda is putting out.
Could this be addressed?
Please don't generalize the population of Iran as mostly Muslim, as it is not accurate. Contrary to your statement, many people in Iran tend to distance themselves from Islam. Additionally, Iran is home to various religions; it is the Islamic Republic's authoritarian regime that attempts to portray the majority as Muslim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.130.15 (talk) 17:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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45.84.41.69 (talk) 12:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 13:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Persia
Iran was historically known as "Persia". Not today. I think it's better we change the beginning line to "Iran, also historically known as Persia". Seeing as no news source for example refers to Iran as Persia anymore. Pro translator (talk) 12:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- No need. Persia translates to Iran in Persian language, and vice versa, both are the same with zero difference. Greeks called Iran Persia, and a lot of westerners still know Iran as Persia thorough their study/school books etc. A change will significantly harm the etymology of the term. Cyrus-Gg1 (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Recent reverts
@HereIAmNow1379: I have undone your mass revert for several reasons:
- You restored a significant volume of unsourced and poorly sourced content. Per WP:BURDEN you are required to provide reliable sourcing in order to restore this content
- Image captions are meant to be succinct, typically no more than three lines; more detail should be provided in the body, at linked articles, or on the image description page
- There should not be more images than the volume of text can support, to avoid issues with article layout. Not everything discussed needs an image here.
- You are adding a lot of content and detail to an article that is already quite long. The material here should provide only a high-level overview of the topic, with details left to the child articles. The articles that you raised as comparators, Poland and China, are both significantly more succinct than this one. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Have not had time to really look but [1] Moxy- 16:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is truly useless. How is it possible that people put so much time and effort publishing useful information and deleted so easily?! If no one does anything, everyone's efforts will be wasted. So what I do is this:
- 1- I will remove some of the existing images and replace them with more important ones
- 2- I will put the information that was previously on the images on the the article body without the images
- In this way, the rules will not be violated and I request you to please do not delete them so that the editing works of all users remain on the article. HereIAmNow1379 (talk) 17:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Can no longer load full article on my phone to help trim...can only load lead ...18305 words is a huge problem. Moxy- 18:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
We are not Moslems
Please don't generalize the population of Iran as mostly Muslim 174.95.130.15 (talk) 17:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Change first picture of Iran
Iran has lots of beautiful places, but you chose not good picture to introduce Iran in first picture, please change it, the second picture is better for show of Iran 174.95.130.15 (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Religion numbers and unreliable survey
For many years until this edit three days ago data from CIA's country factbook has been used in this article's Infobox under religion section. Articles of other countries like Syria use CIA factbook as well. The new source used three days ago is an unreliable online survey from an unknown website called "GAMAAN" with dubious results. For example, it claims 7.7% of Iran population (87 million) are Zoroastrian which would be more than 6 million people, while the number of Zoroastrians across the world is no more than ~ 120,000! This source has zero reliability to be used on Wikipedia, It is not clear who with what expertise has conducted such a survey and how it can make such big claims for an entire country. Either official numbers have to be used mentioning that they are official, or if there are concerns with those numbers we can remove all the stats, It is not madatory to have percentages for religious breakdown when reliable data is not available. Just look at Lebanon e.g. Drako (talk) 20:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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