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On 26 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to October 2023 Israel–Lebanon border clashes. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 22 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2023 Israel–Lebanon border clashes to 2023 Israel–Lebanon border conflict. The result of the discussion was moved.

On 25 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Israel–Hezbollah War (2023–present). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 25 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. consensus not to move (closed by non-admin page mover) Warm Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) → Israel–Hezbollah War (2023–present) – If the 2,000 casualties per Hezbollah is true should this be moved to Israel–Hezbollah War (2023–present) because that would be enough deaths to be considered a war and I think we should discuss this. HuntersHistory (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (for now) - If reliable sources start calling it a war, then we can change it, as per WP:COMMONNAME. At the moment, I haven't seen sources calling it a war. EkoGraf (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Not described as a war by RS. Ecrusized (talk) 15:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose current name meets WP:COMMON and is more WP:PRECISE than any alternative. // Timothy :: talk 21:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support I respect the points raised, but I'd like to offer a different perspective. Even if some sources hesitate to use the term "war", the conflict's characteristics (casualties, sustained military engagement, regional implications) arguably align more closely with traditional definitions of war than a lower-intensity conflict. We should consider these tangible factors, in addition to labels, when assessing the conflict's nature. Media outlets, particularly in the West, can sometimes be slow to adopt terms like "war" due to legal and political sensitivities. This reluctance shouldn't prevent us from using the most accurate descriptor as the situation develops. While "conflict" is technically accurate, it risks downplaying the severity of the situation. "War", while carrying its own connotations, offers a more precise and informative title. Detsom (talk) 23:48, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) and Syrian civil war

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Procedural close: There is no reason this should be an RfC rather than a regular discussion. See WP:RFCBEFORE. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 09:50, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should this conflict be included as part of Iran-Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war or not? Wendylove (talk) 22:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with Selfstudier, let’s do rfcbefore first and maybe elaborate on the reasons for your request should you choose to do another RfC. FortunateSons (talk) 18:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the RFCbefore? I don't understand the question either.Selfstudier (talk) 11:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add name of killed Hezbollah commanders to commanders and leaders

Someone should add “Ali al-debs” to the commanders and leaders column. https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1368298/senior-hezbollah-commander-al-debs-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-nabatieh.html

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2461511/middle-east Jabbatheblack (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should also add the commander “Mohammed Alawiyeh”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hezbollah-commander-dies-days-after-being-injured-in-an-israeli-strike/ Jabbatheblack (talk) 02:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also “Hassan Salami” who was killed today

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-it-killed-senior-hezbollah-commander-in-south-lebanon-strike/ Jabbatheblack (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading Details in Casaulties Section

Per Israel, total casaulties are 8 soldiers and 6 civilians, not 14 soldiers.

Yet, in the page it's stated "Casualties and losses// Per Israel 14 soldiers killed". Even in the same page some of the reported incidents in which Israelis were killed it's explicitly stated they were civilians. For example, "On 5 November, Hezbollah shot down an Israeli Elbit Hermes 450 drone over Nabatieh, with wreckage falling over houses in the towns of Zabdin and Harouf. One Israeli civilian was killed when anti-tank missiles hit the Yiftah kibbutz. Four people were reportedly injured after an Israeli bombing that hit two ambulances. Later, an Israeli airstrike hit two civilian cars in Lebanon carrying members of the same family driving between the towns of Aynata and Aitaroun which killed one women, three of her granddaughters between the ages of 10 and 14, and severely injured her daughter. In response, Hezbollah fired at Kiryat Shmona, killing an Israeli civilian." IdanST (talk) 19:07, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14 Israeli soldiers and 6 civilians were killed. However some of the "civilians" killer were working on behalf of Idf by their own admission. It should be worth noting that Hezbollah has the highest ratio of military to civilians casualties in the history of modern warfare. For example during the south lebanon conflict in the 90s 300 israel soldiers were killed vs 4 civilians, one of whom was a reporter embedded with a general who was eliminated in a surgical operation. That's a 99-1 ratio 2605:B100:D4C:A51:0:C:860B:E01 (talk) 17:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False, 8 soldiers and 6 civilians in the Israeli side were killed.

By the way, it has been updated since in the Wiki Hebrew version that 10 soldiers and 6 civilians were killed.

Considering civilians as both civilians and soldiers is misleading. IdanST (talk) 10:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10 or 11 soldiers killed 6 civians killed and 3 soldiers in accidents. Not sure what the ambiguity between the 10 or 11 soldiers is caused by 2605:B100:D4C:A51:0:C:860B:E01 (talk) 21:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Totally 10 killed Israeli soldiers in the conflict, so 10 died in the conflict and 46 others died in accidents, 3 of them under the Israeli Northern Command, but not due to the conflict (soldiers die each year by accidents like speeding or messing with ammmunition etc.).

By the way, I'm shocked that the main template shows 44-61 civilians killed in Lebanon and implies 0 Israeli civilians died. IdanST (talk) 10:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

three were killed in accidents directly related to operations in the north, 2 in a tank accident on the lebanese border, one by munitions explosion and are listed in official casualties. See the hyperlink in casualties section 100.43.116.198 (talk) 05:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong details in the Template

In the Israeli side,

Units - It implies only the 188th Armored Brigade participated. That brigade is part of 36th Division, but that entire division was in Gaza and surroundings in 7.10.23 - January. That brigade was in no way participating in the conflict yet. Only 91st Division (including 300th brigade in which its 2nd rank officer Alim Abdallah was killed) and 210th Division participated in the conflict in a low-volume fighting.

Killed civilians - it implies 0 Israeli civilians killed although 6 Israeli civilians killed. IdanST (talk) 10:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambulance

https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/725453/ 2.55.173.209 (talk) 13:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Killed civilians - it implies 0 Israeli civilians killed although 6 Israeli civilians killed. [[User:IdanST|IdanST]] ([[User talk:IdanST|talk]]) 10:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
+== Ambulance  ==
+https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/725453/ [[Special:Contributions/2.55.173.209|2.55.173.209]] ([[User talk:2.55.173.209|talk]]) 13:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)