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this article mentions his report regarding estimated japanese deaths from an invasion compared to the nuclear bombs, but doesnt really explain why he would even be asked to write about that in the first place. The [https://www.pbs.org/transistor/album1/shockley/shockley2.html PBS article] mentions that he apparently invented a nuclear reactor outside of the Manhattan Project in 1939, which if true would certainly seem notable enough to be included here. Can't seem to find a talk page section discussing this, so I'm wondering why its not included. --[[User:Jonas1015119|jonas]] ([[User talk:Jonas1015119|talk]]) 23:49, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
this article mentions his report regarding estimated japanese deaths from an invasion compared to the nuclear bombs, but doesnt really explain why he would even be asked to write about that in the first place. The [https://www.pbs.org/transistor/album1/shockley/shockley2.html PBS article] mentions that he apparently invented a nuclear reactor outside of the Manhattan Project in 1939, which if true would certainly seem notable enough to be included here. Can't seem to find a talk page section discussing this, so I'm wondering why its not included. --[[User:Jonas1015119|jonas]] ([[User talk:Jonas1015119|talk]]) 23:49, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

== Why views on race ==

are to going to give his views on food and cartoons aswell what has that got anything to do with lmao it’s entirely irrelevant nobody in his time would have cared stop forcing modern ideas on history [[Special:Contributions/109.180.163.92|109.180.163.92]] ([[User talk:109.180.163.92|talk]]) 21:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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Precipitated the unconditional surrender of Japan

Preceded it, yes. But did not cause it. Hirohito had already sued for peace four times but was ignored by the Truman administration.

Where are your sources for this statement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.132.179.74 (talk) 06:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Changed to "preceded".per WP:CONSENSUS. Llll5032 (talk) 02:53, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 46 supporting Shockley's difficult family relationships is of suspiciously low quality

In reading Reference 46, that purports to support the quite negative statement that Shockley "was almost completely estranged from most of his friends and family", I find the article has a strong negative bias towards all of Shockley's life and work, and not an objective one. For examples the reference states:

- "yet he lived a life of noisy desperation" in the first sentence
- "was driven by the internal demon of hubris" in the second sentence
- "offended by his abrasive personality"
- "Although he won the highest possible civilian honor for his work, that work has long been forgotten."

And that's just in the first 6 sentences; it continues in that tone. That appears to be a very non-objective source. I'd suggest that sentence be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.20.239.21 (talk) 02:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The PBS article is footnoted: Copyright 1999, ScienCentral, Inc, and The American Institute of Physics. I don't know about ScienCentral, but the American Institute of Physics is generally considered a reliable source. The article, not surprisingly for something coming through PBS, is written in a gossipy style (I think the more polite way to say it is "New Yorker Magazine style"). I don't think that invalidates the comments made - they generally agree with other comments made about his possession of an abrasive personality. I see no reason to remove the sentence about being estranged from his family. Tarl N. (discuss) 04:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That reference is just describing him as he is widely known to have been -- it's not a negative bias; it's an accurate depiction of what he was like. MrAureliusRTalk! 04:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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this article mentions his report regarding estimated japanese deaths from an invasion compared to the nuclear bombs, but doesnt really explain why he would even be asked to write about that in the first place. The PBS article mentions that he apparently invented a nuclear reactor outside of the Manhattan Project in 1939, which if true would certainly seem notable enough to be included here. Can't seem to find a talk page section discussing this, so I'm wondering why its not included. --jonas (talk) 23:49, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why views on race

are to going to give his views on food and cartoons aswell what has that got anything to do with lmao it’s entirely irrelevant nobody in his time would have cared stop forcing modern ideas on history 109.180.163.92 (talk) 21:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]