User talk:Bbb23

Blocked user Kingcutie under new sockpuppet HDClear

It appears that user Kingcutie is once again vandalizing his brother's wikipedia page under sockpuppet HDClear, for which he was previously banned by you.

It's not entirely clear to me how to proceed with bringing attention to this.

WIKI PAGE: Har Mar Superstar

OLD USER: User:Kingcutie

NEW USER: User talk:HDClear

"Frivolous" Reports

Interesting to note you said "many of these reports you file are frivolous", and yet when I clicked on every report I made to AIV/UAA on the first and second page of my contribution history as a sample, only one was not blocked because it became stale (the one you declined was subsequently blocked by another admin). I then expanded my history to randomly click on reports and detected no obvious issues with my reporting.

I might have taken your comment if you had said it should have gone to UAA instead of AIV (although this has also been debated with many admins in the past). We can agree to disagree on that one report but respectfully your accusation does not quite standup to my editing history. Unless I am mistaken, I am also not aware of you bringing any concerns to my attention either on my or your talk page in the past.

The amount of spamming on this site (esp. stealth spamming as opposed to blatant spamming) has exploded exponentially over the past few years and yet good faith reports like mine appears to be read as I am the one that's the problem, which is rather bewildering. Admins like yourself are the reason why many long time editors are abandoning the project, and I am on the verge of retiring myself. Cahk (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Apparent block evasion

Bbb23, can you please deal with 93.40.209.94, which is apparently being used to evade a recent block you applied to User:Arbe21 21? Their problematic edits in Epirus and Dorians are identical to those of the aforementioned user. Thanks in advance for your time. Demetrios1993 (talk) 07:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Besides 93.40.209.94, now there is also User:Rakovic123hamzi, who was created less than an hour ago, just to restore the same problematic changes that were formerly attempted by User:Arbe21_21 and 93.40.209.94. Some form of page protection might also be warranted at this point. Demetrios1993 (talk) 08:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I've blocked and tagged the named account as a sock. I've blocked the IP for one week for block evasion. Now they are blocked, I'm not comfortable protecting Epirus because I don't know if the edits by other IPs are disruptive. You can always request protection, though, at WP:RFPP. Dorians is a no-brainer; no protection is needed at this point.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with this. I should have elaborated that I was referring to Epirus when I suggested for page protection; indeed, Dorians hasn't suffered a similar scale of disruption. If it continuous, I will heed your advice and make a formal request via WP:RFPP. Epirus was actually a mess, following a mix of disruptive and constructive edits. I also don't know what to make of 46.99.251.6, who restored the same problematic versions (both in Epirus and Dorians), but geolocates to a different country than the blocked 93.40.209.94. Demetrios1993 (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Catanzaro Cosenza 4 a 0

Hi, why was this sockpuppet case deleted with no merging? I see someone mentioned the accounts were blocked at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/14 novembre, but I'm surprised that the content of the investigation itself wasn't merged, as I suggested on the page. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 21:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

It was simpler. It didn't make sense to merge.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Advice

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1225921480: so what should I do now? I have never reported users on their discussion pages if I remember correctly. What should I do now? Undo his edit and send him a warning? And, more importantly, what warning should I send to him? JacktheBrown (talk) 14:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

The user's edits don't strike me as vandalism. Are they unreliably sourced? You already have a discussion on the article Talk page, but although Sapsby has responded, you haven't continued to discuss the dispute. And unless you're willing to go to SPI, drop the allegations of socking.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

What I think is wrong is the imposition: these two users edited these two pages without first reaching a consensus, which is not correct for Wikipedia. Thank you for your reply. JacktheBrown (talk) 15:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Satish Awasthi

Hey!Bbb23, Hi there, I don't think the article Satish Awasthi are notable and this article is only created for conflict of interest and advertising on Wikipedia? what do you think about that? Happy editing ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 17:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

It's at AfD now.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Sir @Bbb23 I am just trying to only contribute but there are some contributors put some allegations on my Reletion with @Pecific0001

and I clearly certified that I don’t have any relation if my edit is Wrong please take Significant Action. Why they are blaming ? Metaxtech (talk) 18:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Bbb23,

I just wanted your opinion on a new editor, User:Zenon.Lach. I came across an article they PROD'd and I don't think they've been editing long enough to understand Wikipedia policy though they've racked up quite a lot of edits in a couple of weeks. But it's the comment on their User page that gave me pause, that made me think that they were a returning blocked editor. I know you don't have CU goggles but I hope you can offer me your spidey sense. Thanks for any opinion you can offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Boy, that's an LTA I haven't thought about in a while.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Can you identify them? I'm just curious. Thanks for the swift action. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see you tagged their User page, nevermind. Weren't they once an editor in good standing that went rogue? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Not exactly, they were a prolific editor with a tortured history. One of the more deceitful LTAs I've had the pleasure of knowing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

you deleted "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Maidana"

Why did you delete this article? I needed this for my verified Spotify artist profile. My YouTube channel is also verified. You don't need to delete my biography. I am an independent artist! Lennyonwiki (talk) 02:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

He didn't delete it, it's been put in the draftspace, as seen here. Also, I can see that the draft is not in English. If you want to write a draft in another language, then check to see if you can find a Wikipedia in your language. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@NoobThreePointOh It was A7 speedied. -- ferret (talk) 02:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ferret Ah, yes. Right. Forgot about that. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Bbb23, Ferret, seems like a NOTHERE block waiting to happen. Drmies (talk) 15:06, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Statue of Sabrina

What do you make of this, Bbb? Drmies (talk) 15:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• And why are the numbers/links in your archive box so neatly lined up, while mine are so messy? Drmies (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • They're either sock or meat puppets. The master account practically admitted as much. Have you run a check? If not, I'll block based on behavior.
    I'm tidier than you. Everyone knows that most academics are slobs - supposed to be part of their allure, but I think it's just an excuse for not cleaning up their office. :p --Bbb23 (talk) 15:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
    • I kinda figured you'd make it personal, and maybe it is--I compared the code on our two pages and can't see a difference that would account for it. My office is a mess, that's a fact. Yeah, I checked yesterday, but I think we're dealing with a frat here. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
    • You know what, I'm going to get rid of five books, right now. Drmies (talk) 15:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
      • Hmm that's harder than I thought. Candide, Bodkin's Archetypal Patterns in Poetry, The Interpretation of Dreams, Nickel and Dimed, gone--as is Doctor Faustus (haha I have more copies). Actually I might hold on to that Bodkin book, looks interesting. Mark Kurlansky's Salt--your time has come. Drmies (talk) 15:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
      • (edit conflict) A "frat"? Is that somehow different from a meat puppet? Now that I look at our two Talk pages, I don't think yours looks "messy". As for why it's different, I'm not good at templates; if it really bothers you - and my guess is it doesn't - ask one of the technical people. Seriously, I am a very tidy person IRL. I can't work in clutter. Some people thrive on it - makes me cringe. Only five?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
        • I threw out a thesaurus as well, after learning that "nates" is another word for "buttocks". Come on: it's hard to get rid of books. You young people don't know. "Frat"--"fraternity". Boys whose parents pay the bill so they can have fun. Drmies (talk) 15:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
          • You young people. How young do you think I am?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• Came here for a teenage witch, left disappointed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Hmm at my talk page satisfaction is guaranteed. Drmies (talk) 16:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
    • Absolutely, SFR, you're better off there anyway. No doubt Drmies understands your comment here. I don't. And at least half the time (the better half) I don't understand what Drmies says either. I'm still working on frats and meat puppets. Ah well, no one understands me, here or IRL. I've been in therapy ever since I became an admin, and when my CU privileges were yanked, I added another therapist. I'm billing the Foundation and the Committee.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

      Unrelated, but if I recall correctly you expressed concern about my smoking habit a while back. Over 4 months smoke free at this point, much to my dismay when I'm fishing or working on a farm project. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

on that editor you just blocked

referring to aaaaa1234567890, do you think the diff that introduced the file to zabivaka would need a revdel as well if the file gets deleted? because its name is... relatively harmless, as far as those things go

and on that topic, can i request speedy deletion of that file? i can't do it directly because my isp treats 1984 as a set of guidelines, and would have my head on a platter if they found out what i was doing cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I barely understand any of what you just said. What does your ISP have to do with anything?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

my workplace's isp keeps track of everything everyone is doing at all times, which includes accidentally bumping into not safe for work depictions of football mascots

which is to say that if i went to that file's page on commons or something and reported it, it's likely that they would mistake my activity for deliberately using wikipedia to look at peepee cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Cogsan, Do it at home? You use your work's computer? — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 18:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

in that case, i'll do it when i get home

that would also be a good time to check if the other file they uploaded (or edited, not sure) was klonoa porn cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

it seems both images were deleted on 6:24 pm utc, which would be 3:24 pm here, which means i was slow

sorry for bothering you two cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Cogsan ^ ^ — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 16:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Would you mind looking at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheChineseGroundnut

Insults are starting to be thrown, or at least considered. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Pragmatic. Thank you. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry that you had to make this edit

I copied and pasted it but not sure why it did that. — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 01:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

It is a PA

What purpose does it serve for you to reinstate a personal attack? I think it is very unfair of you especially because you reinstated it in your capacity as an admin. Lightburst (talk) 02:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Bbb23, you restored my edit probably about one nanosecond before I tried to do the same.

Lightburst, I don't think I can access my edit summary without completely screwing up that page but here's my best recollection of what I said: "This edit contained no policy violations. To the contrary, it was made entirely as a good-faith effort to protect this site from the harm it'll suffer if you lose the right to contribute at RFA. If you want to discuss this somewhere else, let's, but an edit war here won't benefit either of us." City of Silver 02:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

We are on Bbb23's talk page because they reinstated your pa, but I do not expect a response from. Bbb23 do better. I struck all of my comments and will no longer participate in these pre-rfa discussions. SOS, you personally attacked me twice in the thread. I attacked no-one in that discussion and was only commenting on the candidate's 0-100 knowledge of the project. For your part, your comments were accusatory and sarcastic; you said things like Lightburst is "at it again" and "disrupting RFAs" and you called for my ouster for not providing diffs. It is clearly best if I just steer clear of vetting the candidates at RFA. I will simply vote without a rationale and if it gets no weight, that is fine. Also I encourage you to strike the comments yourself as I find them hurtful and provocative. Lightburst (talk) 03:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Respectfully, I'm not convinced to strike because as I explained in the italic text in my previous message, I don't accept that anything I said was against any policy or guideline. I suspect Bbb23 will be most unimpressed to see this discussion continuing here so if (either of) you has anything more to say, let's take it to my talk page. City of Silver 03:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

That birthdate vandal yes is back...

Now going under the name of "Bidenomics" and changing poor Johann van Beethoven's birthyear to an unsupported/unverified birthdate in November of 1740. (They seem fixated on Novembers for whatever reason.) The Frédéric Arnault edits are a new wrinkle... Shearonink (talk) 13:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 15:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Do we know who the master is? I saw a lot of accounts CU-blocked by Ponyo, but they were not tagged. Looks like a Korean master based on some IP blocks, but that didn't help me much. Might be Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SpencerTarrence7981, but I can't be sure.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The oldest account I can trace it back to is Beale ciphers, if you want to tag the accounts. These are all confirmed to be Beale ciphers: 토탈리콜, Evander Holyfield, 이성계1, 괘걸 and Bidenomics.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:17, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Actually, the oldest account is 괘걸 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). What tags should I use? Thanks for responding to my ping.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it was early and the 4/19 vs 9/14 creation dates were blurry to my tired eyes. The accounts are all  Confirmed to each other, so maybe tag 괘걸 as the master and the rest as either confirmed or proven? -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

All tagged as confirmed. Have you thought of eye drops? :p --Bbb23 (talk) 18:17, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I just dropped a wad of cash on my first pair of glasses (2 pairs, actually). Clearly they're not doing the trick.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Not to worry - it'll only get worse.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Help maybe

Hey, sorry if i write you again but somehow i can't move Draft:Basketball at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 3x3 tournament to the mainspace (teams, schedule, first players known and stuff). Is there some way you can help me on the short way or should i use the RM way? Kante4 (talk) 14:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Kante4, try resubmitting. I think you can't do it yourself because you made the page and it is an AFC draft. — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)