User talk:Frelke

The Kinks

Ok. Do it. Edit it. It really does need it. I've done a lot of work and the hard process of getting the article at this point was quite much even for me. I think that it's excellent article as I'm a huge Kinks fan, but in a moments like these I need some respite after all. So, I do hope that the article will get better and better and there won't be any problems in seeing it rival The Beatles and Rolling Stones or the Who articles as I think that the band rivals them on many musical aspects and on some they are even better.

Good luck and regards: Painbearer 00:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Education

Template:Eucation tag seem like a good idea at the time. Not sure not so its removed. It was a bit US specific as well. --Pfafrich 21:23, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Education

You know what? I reckon this would be a great time for you to be BOLD! Have a look at List of education topics, have a think about what we might have scope to cover, and what we should cover, and just redesign it. Or if you're not too crash hot with tables, feel free to draw an image as a BMP or whatever of your idea, and I'll try and table it up. Don't worry about getting it wrong: the great thing about wikis is that they're in a constant state of improvement.

Also, keep in mind a navigation template should link things that are already linked in some way - it's about the topics, not the articles (and their quality) per se. So Quaternary education is pretty crap, but it's nontheless a significant article in relation to higher education. Plus, we hope that articles will constantly improve.

This template should be listed on the list of nav templates, but I think because it was created by an anon, it just never happened.

What do you say? Go for it! pfctdayelise 10:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

As I said, be bold and go for it. You can set up one to work on in your own user space at User:Frelke/Template:Education. I have heard that the EasyTimeline syntax can be pretty hard to get used to, though.

To be honest, it has never really been clear to me what problem you perceive the existing template to have. Is it that it isn't consistent with UK terminology? eg preschool/nursery school. pfctdayelise 09:37, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

That Kelly bloke

Happy to help. I've reverted, and left a note on R.S.'s talk page explaining "how we do things round here" SP-KP 20:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Hoping you can return the favour - R.S. is back in deletion mode SP-KP 20:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

"Reading for a degree" renamed

"Reading for a degree" now renamed to Reading (for degree), per Talk:Reading (for degree). Also updated Reading to match. Duckbill 02:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Robsteadman

User:Robsteadman is leaving Wikipedia, and asked me to delete all his pages. I checked for "what links here" and it led me to a sub page of your user page. I checked your contributions, wondering for a moment if you were Rob returning under a new name, and found that you had copied all his talk pages into subpages of your own user page. I

• User:Frelke/RS

• User:Frelke/RSBin

• User:Frelke/RSArchive1

• User:Frelke/RSArchive3

• User:Frelke/RSArchive4

Can you explain why you are keeping a copy of these pages?

Do I have to ? Frelke 06:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Have you any connection to Rob?

Other than thinking he is a very dangerous moron ? Frelke 06:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to get admin feedback as to what the best thing to do is when someone announces that he's leaving, and I'd like this cleared as well.

What "this" do you want cleared ? Are you saying that you want to clear all records of what has been happening in relation to RS over the last couple of months. Well actually that is what RS wants, and I am inclined to believe that anything RS wants is bad for WP. Frelke 06:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.

AnnH ♫ 23:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of the procedure/rules for deleteing users (and it seems to me that you're not either) but I think this is a much better way to do it and is what should have been done for RS. Otherwise he is still controlling his talk and user pages, which is what a lot of the fuss was about in the first place. Frelke 06:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I have replied here . I apologise for not informing you of the original post as I just didn't think to do so. I am still fairly new so have not mastered all the procedures yet. Gilraen of Dorthonion AKA Sophia^TalkTCF 20:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

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Irish Naval Service

Thanks for your clean up on these articles. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

N/P, when you get to you get to it. Looks as if your WIP is coming along though, i know the feeling, i have a tendency to overextend my self and get bogged down. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Gaelic Games

I know that you said that you tied up with other things, but i noticed that you edited several articles relating to the GAA. A couple of users and myself have a project to help work on the articles, was wondering if you like to sign up, no need to jump right in, no is the a commitment if you do join or anything, just edit as you can. If you get a chance check it out, if you like what you see sign up, we are always looking for good editors, if they are knowledgeable or not. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Talkpage

Please do not use my talk page to msg other users, msg them direclty. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Honorifics

The answer's in the word "inline", i.e. in the running text of the article. (It basically means "don't start articles with "The Right Honourable".") Proteus (Talk) 18:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I was part of the discussion that resulted in the current policy. If it implies (not infers) that, then it's wrong. Sorry. Proteus (Talk) 18:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Revert

I have reverted your change to The Right Honourable. The reason is that that self-reference is not appropriate, since it is attempting to insert WP guidance into an article that has nothing to do with WP. Looking over what has been happening I can see why you did it, but in any case, I don't think it will work. Incidentally, AFAIK, the consensus has been that Rt. Hon. (most other titles/ honorifics) is not used at the start of the article, but can be used in info boxes. Thanks CaptainJ ^{(t | c | e)} 18:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The thing is though, I didn't click through to the Rt Hon article, because I didn't expect an explanation there, even as a new user. More experienced users, who may feel more bold in making changes, should know about the Manual of Style anyway. The only suggestion I can make is a link at the top of the discussion page of Rt.Hon, and perhaps other articles?CaptainJ ^{(t | c | e)} 18:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Ruth Kelly

Could I ask that if you are happy with the article as it is, that further debate on what exactly defines nationality (especially in an area as complex as this - see British_Isles (terminology)) is not going to be of benefit, and in any case not especially relavent to the Ruth Kelly page. I have made a similar request on User_talk:Robertsteadman#Ruth_Kelly. Regards, MartinRe 08:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Isobel Lang

I understand you removed that chunk of text from Isobel Lang article because direct copy and paste of large portions of external articles is apparently not allowed. So if I change a few words (e.g. lives -> resides, interests -> hobbies etc.) will it be OK to put it back? Thanks. Jameboy 10:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Editor re-starts misbehaving after being unblocked

Hello, Frelke. I hope, before I go to bed tonight, to post something at WP:ANI about Rob and Neuropean. I feel bad about what has happened, because I saw the distressed message Neuropean sent Rob (and had also seen some of the frivolous RFCUs and RFIs that Rob was filing), and I saw that it was obvious that Rob was stalking Neuropean, and I intended to do something, but didn't move quickly enough. As I see it, Rob was blocked indefinitely, and was unblocked on condition that he would behave himself. I have undeleted the old histories of the Robsteadman user and talk pages, and am also looking at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Deskana for diffs. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 22:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, Frelke. The report took longer than I expected, and I didn't want to clog up the noticeboard, so I made the main report here, and linked to it at WP:AN/I. My ANI/I report can be seen here. With regard to the deleted archives, I don't see any reason to undelete them. They were deleted at Rob's request, when he was leaving, along with his user page and talk page. I undeleted his user page and talk page solely for the purpose of making diffs available for evidence, not because he's been a bad boy and this is something he doesn't want. In any case, archives are not essential. Some users don't archive at all; they just delete stuff when the page gets too full. Everything is in the now-restored history. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 21:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

And by the way, how about removing the "dangerous moron" comment from your page? I know it was a while ago, but still, no point in kicking someone when he's down. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 21:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It might be better to strike the original words through (or maybe the whole sentence), rather than use asterisks. The asterisks give a slight implication of "I'm-thinking-such-awful-things-that-I-can't-put-them-in-print", so could be seen as worse than the original, regardless of intention! To strike something through, just put <s> immediately before and /<s> immediately after, and it will come through like this.

On a related matter, Neuropean has posted here, asking for Rob to be given another chance. I'm going in to work shortly, so won't be posting there just now, but as I see it, he doesn't want to be responsible for Rob's block, since he did some provoking. However, Rob was violating his parole long before the Anne Frank's cats article was nominated for deletion. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 07:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Marian College

Hi, Frelke. I admit that I hadn't checked the website and it seems I'm mistaken. I used to attend Sandymount High, which I knew was on Herbert Road, but when I googled it it turned out that SH was 1, Herbert Road, thus making the dividing line between the two streets where the two schools met, rather than Herbert Bridge, which I'd assumed. I've fixed the relevant entries for Landowne Road and Herbert Road. Well spotted! Autarch 18:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

FIPS

Under FIPS, the code for the Philippines is RP. It can be found under the R's in List of FIPS country codes. Before my edit, it looks like someone confused the FIPS and ISO 3166-1 a2 codes for the Philippines. Nothing has been nuked. :) - Thanks, Hoshie 13:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:IACRound.svg

I appreciate your efforts in attempting to create an image free of copyright for use on Template:Irish Defence Forces. However, the image you created is a derivate work of Image:Ie round.gif. Yes, two of the colors you used in your creation are slightly different than the original, and there is a black line around and separating the three zones, but the image proportions are still precisely the same. The subtle changes you made are not enough to free the image of copyright concerns. For example, you can't take the logo from Coke and make slight color changes and add a few lines and say this is your work alone, and you can do whatever you like with it. If you tried to make and sell a hundred thousand t-shirts using such a logo, the lawyers from Coca-Cola would be on your doorstep very rapidly. As a result of this, I've retagged the image you made as a {{logo}}.

Since it is not free of copyright, it must be used under terms of fair use. Images used under these terms that are not used in the main article namespace are subject to deletion. I have therefore tagged the image with {{orfud}}.

Also, obviously the intent is to represent the Irish Air Corps with this emblem that you have created. However, if you create another image that can not count as a derivative work, it will not be the actual emblem of the Irish Air Corps, and thus using such an image on a template to identify that group would be as innaccurate as using a Coke logo to represent Pepsi.

Again, I appreciate your efforts but they are insufficient to our needs. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. --Durin 13:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Horley

Frelke

I am a little concerned that you have edited the 'Horley' entry to remove some vandalism to the article and have attributed this vandalism to me. I assume the vandalism you are referring to is the derogatory comment appended to the name "Andy Thompson". If you look at the log, you will find that this wasn't my edit at all, it is attributable to an unnamed user on ISP 193.60.199.36. My edit was to remove two unnecessary words from the paragraph about the development on the town so that the entry made sense (It actually says this and gives the location of the edit in the comment I made with the edit). While I applaud any effort to prevent this resource being used for scurrilous and unfounded remarks (As it happens, I've met Andy Thompson and have a great deal of respect for him), I feel that you should take a bit of care before accusing anyone of something they have not in fact done. I accept that I am new to Wikepedia and if I have offended any of the etiquette for this group I apologise and would appreciate guidance, I find it a little disconcerting, however, that my first attempt to help should meet with this response.

RF1952 09:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

New Cork vote

There is a new move request and survey regarding Cork. This time it is proposed to move Cork to Cork (city in order to move Cork (disambiguation) to Cork. You are being informed since you voted in the last Cork survey. See Talk:Cork. --Serge 07:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Cork poll

I'm sorry about the back and forth, but I've restored the poll to the original instructions with a clarification, in case that affects your vote. --Serge 02:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

And indeed Serge did that against the consensus of the other editors on the page. Its back to the simple version now. pschemp | talk 19:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Frelke. Do you agree that If the article is moved from Cork, then Cork (city) is the consensus title for the article? You clearly feel strongly that the primary use of the (case insensitive) sequence of letters C-O-R-K is the name of the city in Ireland, not the stopper in a bottle of wine, or the bark the stopper is made from. Do you think that the way forward from here is to announce a possible move on WP:RM and hold a 5-day poll on whether to move the article from Cork to Cork (city), or do you think you can accept that there's a consensus on talk:Cork to move it, even though you personally disagree with the move? I don't mind if you choose to answer here, my talk page, email to me, or on talk:Cork. I probably won't read your answer for 8 hours or so. --Scott Davis ^Talk 14:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

See this. Djegan 16:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

It looks like events overtook us both, but I don't think the eventual outcome would have been much different. I hope you haven't been put off contributing to Wikipedia totally by this mess. Thankyou for helping to determine that Cork, County Cork would not have been the right move, as that was originally my choice. --Scott Davis ^Talk 00:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for your comment today on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements). I knew it needed a response, but couldn't think of the words. You expressed it well. --Scott Davis ^Talk 14:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ruth Kelly

Thanks a lot for your help with recent improvements on that page, esp. copyediting my changes (oops) and tracking down some of those elusive references. I think we've tremendously improved the standard of the article. Fingers crossed for GA! - WJBscribe 20:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Tuskar Rock

Sorry I would have reomoved it but it was already gone so problem solved. Sorry again.--St.daniel 02:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

World's Smallest Political Quiz userbox

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Please reply to User talk:Audacity, as I will not be watching your talk page. Λυδαcιτγ 07:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

To Do

Thanks for putting back the Irish Wikipedianss to do. I missed it and now we need to update it as most of it is over 12 months old. Cheers ww2censor 15:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Croke Park Fixture Table

It is entirely likely that, once the IRFU and FAI have finished building their brand spanking new stadium that is going to cost them €365 million, they're not likely to want to use Croke Park anymore are they? As for the excuse "the fixtures aren't listed on the IRFU and FAI pages", that's spurious at best. These fixtures, for the time that they last, are historic and a list of them should be maintained. Hammersfan 22/02/07, 09.55 GMT

I wanted to keep you informed...Hammersfan 22/02/07, 15.30 GMT

Ed Joyce

You asked: "Just wondering why you reverted the edit to Ed Joyce. It looked like a perfectly good edit to me? It may be a sock but it looks like you have removed some very useful info."

Abusive sockpuppet accounts are not permitted to edit. When we catch one, we try to revert all edits. By definition, any edit from a blocked user is a bad edit. You are welcome to reintroduce the edit yourself if you wish. This would not be considered a revert. You would be responsible for the edit just as if you were the first person to perform that edit. --Yamla 14:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

You said: "Just for future reference, given that there are no block logs for that IP, how do you know he is an abusive sock?"

I wasn't reverting the IP's edits, I was reverting edits by Maddy92 (talk · contribs), a couple of revisions earlier. That is a confirmed abusive sockpuppet, see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Prince Godfather. And thanks for keeping people honest! --Yamla 16:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

You said: "I picked that up in the meantime. Given that the IP editor edited the same paragraph, how were you able to isolate his/her changes and keep them whilst reverting Maddy92's edits? Have you some cool editing tool that allows that?"

I wish. That would be very very useful, particularly when reverting contributions from a different long-term vandal, Verdict (talk · contribs). No, I did it by hand using the history. --Yamla 16:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Maritime trades invite

Hey Frelke, though this might be of interest! Cheers. Haus42 13:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:Female members of the Cabinet of the United Kingdom

Hi Frelke, thanks for your message re Category:Female members of the Cabinet of the United Kingdom, see reply on my talk page (I prefer to keep discussions together, much easier to follow). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Charlwood

I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what's happened to the info box code in Charlwood. Wasn't the info box code ok before? Now it's all very difficult for a lay person to read. There are lots of these info boxes in the villages, I don't think that it's the way to go ahead to make them all like this. Perhaps though I just don't understand what's happened. SuzanneKn 20:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

No worries, carry on fiddling. This latest info box is quite new and I've been putting them into the villages of Surrey so I was a bit anxious that I'd done something wrong. SuzanneKn

South East England box

I wondered if you could quickly solve this query for me. I have put this info box

at the bottom of my new page Woking (borough). Now the link to Woking takes me to the old page for the town rather than my new page for the borough. If you look at Guildford, there is a page for Guildford and a page for Guildford (borough). The info box take one to the borough which is where it should go. Now the link goes to Woking the town because I've only just made Woking (borough). What I need to know is how to go into the info box code above and change it from Woking to Woking (borough). Thanks for seeing if you can help. SuzanneKn 21:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Mea culpa

I should immediately have distrusted the urge to do a random act of kindness -- they never work out right. Consider yourself owed a beer or whatever similar commodity suits your tastes. Cheers. Haus^Talk 23:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

NPA

Your edit summary here constitutes a personal attack; kindly read WP:NPA, and desist. Andy Mabbett 08:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Your continued trolling here show that it was not a personal attack, but an accurate assessment of your actions. And I am prepared to leave the conversation here for all to view rather than removing it from my talk page as you seem to do with any criticism on your own talk page. Frelke 09:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Cease making personal attacks. Andy Mabbett 19:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)