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Cretan School

fixed links for Strelintzas. was a bit puzzled that you ve linked theophanes the Greek with the cretan. I assumed it was a mistake and fixed it Ipodamos

Century Club

I'd suggest renaming the "footballers with 100 caps" to "FIFA Century Club" because (1) that's what the FIFA calls it, (2) it sounds better, and (3) it will prevent future debate over whether or not this is arbitrary. Do you think that's a good solution? debate here. >Radiant< 14:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comte de Saint-Pol

Johnbod, I would appreciate your opinion on the date of this portrait. I'm inclining towards the late 16th century. --Ghirla^-трёп- 19:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen your magnificent rewrite of the Gothard article. Kudos! I am so ashamed of myself that I can't be of much use these days. --Ghirla^-трёп- 19:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looted Art

Hallo Johnbod, i understand you remark - most of the sources i have added though use the term "looted" when they describe the overall picture of the plunder of Italy, while many individual actions alone might belong into the "illicit" or "stolen" art section. Within the Looted Art article I believe we should focus on the bigger picture. I am not sure about your addition of "Italian criminals" - I am aware, that the "digging" part is certainly done by locals - without the extensive networks of sales men, art collectors and museums looking the other way however the scale and damage would be much much smaller ... In the long run though I see this particular article becoming so large, that we have to split it into individual ones, allowing us to connect the looted, plunder, illicit, stolen core articles in a more systematic way. Any suggestions or anything else you have in mind?Okinawasan 12:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Smoking by Bouwer

If you could find some nicely rustic scenes of smoking from the early 17th century, it would be a great addition to smoking. The rather uninteresting van Ostade was certainly a poor substitute for Smell, no matter what one might think about poop in art.

Peter ^Isotalo 18:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Medieval clothing

Can you watch for the gathers at the waist of the bliaut - pleats? gathers? wrinkles? Thanks!!

Did you know we have these [1] in the Commons? I just found them. - PKM 22:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and if you can find a citation for people being sewn into their clothes that would be great; User:Daniel Case will move 1300-1400 in fashion to A-class if we get that. (I've found 3rd hand corroborating evidence for this earlier, but nothing I can cite in this article.) - PKM 18:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Concert/Album artists

I'm glad that was kept; I often visit SF and the artforms from the psycedelic era posters are still being emulated or originals are being sold for obscene amounts of money. There are many books (perhaps none notable) available locally about the history and the scene - even a tour guide for where hippies would have been found in their time. Rob Brown and Ray Anderson don't seem to have articles yet. Rob Brown and Ray Anderson may be too local in nature for interest, although they have a kind of cult following in SF. Coincidently, I think the UK guy may be Arthur Brown, see [2]. Carlossuarez46 18:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, art and music are more your subjects than mine. Thanks again. :-) Carlossuarez46 18:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Figurative art

Hi Johnbod, I hope you will re-read the article [3], because I don't think it is written primarily about American painting. Rather, one paragraph tips in that direction, and it is that paragraph which I suspect was written by editors trying to promote a particular group or school, hence, my recent note to Tyrenius. My very best regards, JNW 19:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe there's not a lot of substance there yet, but must Americans shoulder the blame? I'm not keen on rewriting it myself (I prefer bios, and generally make only small edits to thematic articles), nor do I wish to rapidly revert the decision of an editor I admire, so it stays as is, for the moment. Yes, wikipedia offers too great a temptation for artists not to take advantage of the promotional possibilities. Cheers, JNW 19:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've cut out all the unreferenced material and moved it back to Figurative art as we need something there. I suggest continuing discussion on article talk page, and building it up again, or at least making sure it doesn't get written in the wrong way. Tyrenius 17:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1200-1300 in fashion

I missed that some folks had started 1200-1300 in fashion back in June. Let the games begin. - PKM 19:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Untier of Knots

Hi! Could you put the article Mary Untier of Knots into your watchlist! Sometimes there is spam in it!? Thanks out of Germany :-) --Janiwan 15:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Maurice

Thank you for your concern

http://andrewfanous.com/CopticCorner/WikiAuthorization.htm

Is it ok now or is more information needed? Thanks. --Lanternix 18:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a personal website. The person cannot give copyright to images he did not produce. - Jeeny ^Talk 19:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Getty list

Hi! I saw your comment on the Schiavone page. Next time, I'll definitely use the proper procedures for name change. Thank you for the useful info, I didn't know about the Getty Artist List. You said it's the most authoritative reference for the names used in English, and I intend to use it as a reference for name changes in the future, but what do I say if some other user questions the list's authority? Is it confirmed somewhere as "the" reference? --Zmaj 07:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! You know how people can be particular about sources. --Zmaj 12:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another one

Hey there - Have you seen the CFD for Category:African American baseball players? I was kinda surprised not to see your name on one of the comments. (Though, with all the CFDs you manage to comment on, I can see how you might have missed one!) In any event, I hope you'll weigh in soon. Regards, Cgingold 14:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry to hear you're leaving us at this moment (even if only temporarily!). But do enjoy your holidays, and come back refreshed and ready to do battle! :) Cgingold 15:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS - I was slightly curious about your user name, and then, purely by serendipity, I spotted an article in that category for "Murdering doctors" about a certain John Bodkin Adams. Is there a connection?

I thought perhaps it was a perverse sort of, shall we say, "homage" to the gentleman. Pure coincidence, then? Cgingold 15:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bliaut

Thought you were on holiday. :-) Found some info on bliauts in Koslin and Snyder, Encountering Medieval Textiles and Dress: Objects, texts, and Images, which I own but confess to not having read cover-to-cover (densely academic). Will read, digest, and post. Confirms a style with sidelacing, and one called a bliaut gironné with a separately cut (presumably from the name gored) skirt. Onward! - PKM 02:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thiruchelvam Nihal Jim Brown

Thanks and do keep a watch on this article as I have added the relevant information about his body being recovered. Thanks Taprobanus 02:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Early medieval European dress

On 13 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Early medieval European dress, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 17:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

14th century fashion

User:Daniel Case has asked for "... whilst the Italian cities were relatively conservative, in contrast to the following century" to be 'cited or otherwise dealt with' in 1300-1400 in fashion in order to ugrade the article, and I can't find a suitable reference (is that from Braudel? I only have Vol 3). That was your contribution (I never remember to use "whilst" when writing to UK style). - PKM 03:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to your return

Best wishes, JNW 14:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taschen Book

Hi, yeah my dust jacket says Masterpieced of Illumination as well, but I was always taught that the title page is the definitive title. I'm kinda groggy today. I was up early watching the lunar eclipse, so I'm doing some essentially mindless tasks, such as adding to the reference sections. Dsmdgold 14:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity, I checked Worldcat and it's only indexed under Codices Codices Illustres, even in the German, French and Spanish editions. The eclipse was cool. We were cloudless, I got the best pictures that I could expect given my crappy camera, and my daughter greatly enjoyed it. It was the first time she had seen one. Dsmdgold 15:18, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chiaroscuro

I'm pretty busy right now (new semester just started, and I need to do some painting, etc.) but I will take a look at at this when I get the chance. Also, if you have a good reference to help with the third and fourth paragraphs for Art, that would be great. I'm going to look for some stronger material than that which is there now, which I had already removed, and tagged upon its return. Thanks, JNW 15:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Art--you're right on it. There are certain topics, abstract and interesting enough to invite lots of unsourced prose. The result seems to be a hodgepodge of an article, composed of contributions both good and indifferent. Thank you for your additions. JNW 22:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strike throughs

First I was using them, then I was asked not to by one editor, so I stopped. I just put four articles through GA and I was told to strike through items as they are addressed. One thing is certain, FAC is an arbitrary process and after studying what has passed and what has failed, the tag is of questionable value in my mind. After Cranmer, I am through with FA articles and intend to work only to GA - where the standards seem to be more widely understood by the reviewers. -- SECisek 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coptic architecture

Hi John! I spent several hours cleaning up a few recently created articles on Coptic topics. They all contain copyright infringements, apparently unbeknownst to the editor who created them. Would you mind taking a look at something like Coptic architecture and maybe giving it some finishing touches when you have time? I feel bad that I've had to seriously trim down on a lot of the material that was included, and I am no expert on the topic. Thank you, — Zerida 07:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your efforts Johnbod. It seems that copyright issues are quite hard to avoid. ~ Troy 20:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see you're busy at work on Coptic architecture, John. Looks beautiful, many thanks for the prompt attention, — Zerida 21:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they certainly seem to be popping up frequently. Will see what I can do. — Zerida 03:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh boy, this is going to take days. At least we now know so something can be done about it. Troy has been recruiting other Wikipedians, so hopefully more help is on the way. — Zerida 03:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Johnbod! I don't think I have anything. All my info is very European. I haven't got any useful photos. What a pity. Anyway, you have the article looking good! --Amandajm 14:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dharmic religions Centralized discussion

I propose Wikipedia_talk:Hinduism-related_topics_notice_board#Dharmic_Religions for a centralized discussion about use of the phrase in many Wikipedia articles. Andries 21:22, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CfD comment

Would you be able to clarify your comment here? I'm not sure if you support the nomination (by me) to rename, or are arguing to keep the name. Carcharoth 12:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I've added more at the CfD itself. Carcharoth 12:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

cat move

No one disagrees that Category:Fields of History should be changed to lower case, and I can't see any circumstances under which the renamed version would be deleted.--ragesoss 16:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thankfully, no I don't. But the name itself is simply against naming conventions. Maybe the discussion will get crazy and a "consensus" will develop of people who are completely unfamiliar with the discipline of history yet won't take my word for the way that historical jargon (like "fields of history") is used. I'll take that chance, and meanwhile, try to clean up the category.--ragesoss 16:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bible of San Paolo fuori le Mura

Damn, that was fast, I was on my way to add the cat and edit conflicted with you. Dsmdgold —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsmdgold (talk • contribs) 22:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Renaming that anti to active-anti sounds good

I would surly agree to this rename sounds very good although i did not finish reading yet all the pros and cons it sounds very reasonable, thanks for trying to bring this to a consensus.--יודל 18:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review of deletion of Category:Esperantists

The deletion is up for review. In case you'd like to chime in, go here. --Orange Mike 18:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 4 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Coptic architecture, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 22:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

El Greco!

Hi! Some remarks:

I reentered the two sentences about El Greco in Italy you removed, expressing my disagreement. I do not intend to initiate an edit war, so, if you insist on removing them, I will respect that, but I do not see something wrong with these sentences. If you don't like the phrasing, you can rephrase them.
Yes, the preponderant opinion is that Theotokopoulos was Orthodox by birth, but why is it wrong to include the dissenting opinions as well? Yes, they are from sites, but those who write in these sites are respectable researchers.
If you want to edit the timeline, just go to Timeline of El Greco's life.
It is great to add new sources, but PLEASE!!! keep the same form I have adopted in Citations and References. E.g. in citations only writer-book-page, in References all the other data (ISPB etc.). If you want to cite more than one sources in one citation, put them one after the other in different lines using the symbols <br> and * (next line). The article is featured, and, believe it or not, all these details are important, in order to keep its featured status, and not to have "stupid" nominations in FAR. At least, these details matter for me who nominated the article!

By the way, thank you for keeping the article safe from vandals. If this phenomenon continues, inform me, and I will semi-protect the article, until the vandal attacks are over. Cheers!--Yannismarou 12:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion on this

Please don't take this message as canvasing for your vote. I write to u in hopes that u can clarify this problem, since some claims are surfacing that a particular organization isn't notable enough, i, as an orthodox Jew, am not familiar with its issue, and thus could not testify to this regards, Please be so kind to shed your knowledge on this [4]. Thanks.--יודל 12:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where's here? Handicapper 15:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart Dauermann

There is an attempt currently under way to delete Stuart Dauermanns biography, i understand that much info is based on sites fond of his work, but this man seems very prominent and notable on outside websites from Google can u help save it? by correcting the problems if u find some on it. Thanks--יודל 21:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WTF?

You won't let me put in objective information about Madonna as a compromise, so this is an edit war. What is wrong with referring to Madonna as "the most successful female artist by record sales" in the disambiguation page?

Madonna > *

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 :::I think I could go with nearly all of that, but we would need a clear naming convention for the non-fiction "books by" category. And I'm not quite sure what you mean by the "+drama & poetry" element. Surely that is catered for by the "poetry by" and "# play" conventions although the last is a bit odd in format. Also the level of change is very large and I'm not sure everyone would be ready yet for it! :: [[User:Kevinalewis|<span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span>]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|<sup style="color:#C90">(Talk Page)</sup>]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|<sub style="color:#C90">(Desk)</sub>]] 14:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
+== WTF? ==
+You won't let me put in objective information about Madonna as a compromise, so this is an edit war. What is wrong with referring to Madonna as "the most successful female artist by record sales" in the disambiguation page?
+Madonna > *