Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand

General notices

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TAT to "improve" Thailand-articles here

Just noticed it on the FACT blog [2] - the Tourism Authority of Thailand plans to edit articles about Thailand on Wikipedia and Wikitravel. While there are definitely a lot of articles in need of improving, this being done by a government agency is risky. So be VERY careful about POV edits, removal of criticism, etc. But try to do without biting them away, having them edit in accordance with our rules and style would be for our mutual interest. andy (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems like the first editors are already here, see the articles on Pathum Thani, Songkhla (where they even did not read that the article is about the town, not the province) and Phetchabun Province, where I had to do a lot of copyedit and deletion of duplications already. andy (talk) 12:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

You did great work, Andy. Should we try contact TAT directly about the issue? --PaePae | Talk 10:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I already sent an email to TAT yesterday, expressing my concern that editors without knowledge of the Wikipedia policies paid to put tourism-brochure texts would backfire into a publicity disaster, but also offering my help in getting TAT involved in a fruitful cooperation for our mutual interest. So far no reply yet :-( As I can only write in English it might help if someone can talk to them in Thai as well. andy (talk) 11:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Where did you send email to? It said to be from 'e-Marketing for Amazing Thailand 2008'[3] campaign. I will contact them at amazingthailand@tat.or.th, writing one. --PaePae | Talk 04:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw this news as well,[4] [5] and was pretty concerned. I'm glad to see that others have noticed it, too, and are keeping a watchful eye. — WiseKwai 18:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your updated. I wonder if anyone taking care of Thai-related articles at wikitravel? I do not know any policy there. It would be good having someone familiar with wikitravel to deal with TAT together. --PaePae | Talk 04:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Response from born Distinction

I got a reply from born Distinction. They are a consultant company responsible for 'WIKI for Thailand Tourism' project. They said the project does not start making any modification with Wikipedia nor Wikitravel yet. So those edits should not be related to TAT.

However, I had addressed that these users might be a person from the project. They said it should be misunderstood among the participants. They will propose TAT to notice them about our concerns.

• Special:Contributions/Yummyyok
• Special:Contributions/Nakyim
• Special:Contributions/Chakkapun

• User:Borndistinction Special:Contributions/Borndistinction
• Wikitravel: User:Borndistinction Special:Contributions/Borndistinction

They also provided schedule as below:

1. By February 2008 - Found WIKI Working Committee.
2. By February 2008 - Analyze and summarize what information to update and/or create.
3. By May 2008 - Find and gather information.
4. By July 2008 - Compile into draft version and upload to project's blog.
5. By August 2008 - Verify draft for correctness and completeness. Modify and update into last version.
6. By September 2008 - Publish on Wikipedia and Wikitravel.

As of now, phase 1-2-3 are in progress.

WIKI Working Committee:

1. Tourism Authority of Thailand.
   • Information technology office.
   • Information services division.
   • Public relation division.
   • TAT local offices around Thailand.
   • Some other TAT offices in Thailand.
2. Tourism business associations and clubs all around Thailand.
3. Education institutes.
   • Faculty of Tourism and Hospitality Industry, Rangsit University.
   • Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University.
4. WIKIPedia User Experts.

They did sent invitation email to wiki experts writing about Thailand and got some feedbacks, almost foreigners. WIKI Mission for Thailand Tourism project will have an official press conference in March.

They are also inviting us to join the Working Committee for co-operation along the project. Anyone interested? --PaePae | Talk 08:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Announcement from TAT

Editions on WIKIPEDIA TAT has not started editing any article on WIKIPEDIA as yet whereas the articles about 3 provinces in Thailand, Pathumthani, Songkhla and Petchabun, are not edited by TAT.

Editions with the username borndistinction is just try to find out whether how it works but has not touched any content at all.

Editions on WIKITravel TAT has edited and created new content on few articles on WIKITravel already by consulting WIKITravel expert by proving them the authority and copyright of the content from TAT. [6]--Borndistinction (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge with WikiProject Thai provinces

Yes I would strongly recommend mergin thai provinces with the main one ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

If merging just means moving the project page to a subpage of the Thailand project - no problem with that, but I also don't see any real benefit of it. But that's not what I would call merge. But as most of the text on that project page is specific to the provinces, it won't fit into the Thailand project page. Besides, both the provinces and the districts make a nice separated subfield of this project, and with the new activity on the province articles by TAT (User:Borndistinction) a reactivation of the project with additional helpers would be possible. andy (talk) 20:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I just mean moving it to a sub page of the project ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Article tagging

Should Thailand articles currently tagged under WikiProject Southeast Asia be re-tagged under this project instead? It isn't clear to me whether this project is a subproject of WikiProject Southeast Asia itself, but if not, there would seem to be a great amount of overlapping scope.

If articles are transferred to this project, how should the quality and importance scales be treated? Is reassessment needed for all articles? - Paul_012 ^(talk) 14:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It's okay to leave in both. Badagnani (talk) 02:50, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

New userbox available

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Thailand#Templates. Badagnani (talk) 16:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Undiscussed page moves of Thai cities and provinces

See Special:Contributions/Borndistinction. Badagnani (talk) 11:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Thai provinces#How to title the page have been there for quite some time. If no one else thinks they should be changed, these moves should be reverted. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 16:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

In Thailand it is much more common to talk about the province than the city - so when someone just says "Nakhon Phanom" it usually means the province of that name, if meaning the town one says "Mueang Nakhon Phanom" (not to be confused with Amphoe Mueang, which is another different entity). Thus on Thai Wikipedia นครพนม is a redirect to the province; on the Dutch WP Nakhon Phanom is the disambiguation page. Those naming convention in the province project was formulated unilaterally by myself, and says nothing about the town, just the province, as that project was for the provinces only. And actually this move was discussed - by email between me and borndistinction, who is editing on behalf of the Tourism Authority to add more information into the province articles. andy (talk) 20:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thailand in the Dutch Empire

Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes significative parts of Thailand. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Tom kha pladuk

The Tom kha pladuk article has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom kha pladuk. Thank you. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 18:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit, also to be held in Cebu. The Philippine Wikipedia Community is an Implementing Partner of the Open Source Summit. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to meet people from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. You can register for the Open Source Summit here. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

The Philippine Wikipedia Community
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Archive of May 2008

I basically archived everything before 2008, since the page was hopelessly backlogged (some discussions haven't been resolved after 3 years). If anyone would like to revive a topic or request, please do so. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Quick romanization request

I've been looking for an online tool to help me romanize the title of a Thai comics title. I found one but there seems to be some sort of encoding conflict and it's not working for me. I was hoping someone here might be able to recommend something? In the meantime, would anyone be willing to transliterate the following title for me? ตุลาการทมิฬ ฉบับพิเศษ I really appreciate it - thanks! --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 20:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I use thai2english.com a lot - and sometimes thai-language.com is very useful. The first link transliterates your text as " dtòo laa gaan tá-mil chà-bàp pí-sèt". The second link transliterates as "dtoo(L)-laa(M)-gaan(M) tha(H)-min(M) cha(L)-bap(L) phi(H)-saeht(L)" PalawanOz (talk) 07:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the links and your help! --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 07:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:THAI Tagging

An user Badagnani had placed a Bot request for Tagging articles {{WikiProject Thailand}} from Thai related categories. TinucherianBot have autotagged around 1204 new articles. Categories used can be found here .This is FYI -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 18:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

• The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
• The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
• A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Public holidays in Thailand

Dunno if this is the write place for this; if not, tell me where to go. Public holidays in Thailand was re-written by me to add introductory text before the plain table that was there before; tweak that table which basically was correct; and add a new topic, Other national observances. Five days on the new table need attention:

January 25 Royal Thai Armed Forces Day.

February 14 Valentine Day as observed in Thailand.

August Thetsagarn Sart.

August Thetsagarn Jeen.

September Moon Festival (Buddhist), or Thetsagarn Wan wâi Prá Jahn, Thai: เทศกาลวันไหว้พระจันทร์ in case somebody knows a better translation.

Help! Pawyilee (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

From what I know, and comparing with the Thai Wikipedia:

• The Royal Thai Armed Forces Day has been moved to 18 January since last year.
• Thetsagarn Sart (RTGS Sat), is known as วันสารทไทย (Wan Sat Thai) to differentiate it from สารทจีน. I suggest moving the article to something with "Festival" or "Day" instead of "Thetsagarn" (e.g. Sart Festival).
• วันสารทจีน (RTGS Sat Chin) (in the 7th Chinese lunar month) corresponds to Ghost Festival, and is different from เทศกาลกินเจ (RTGS Kin Che; in the 9th Chinese lunar month), which has the articles Vegetarian Festival and Nine Emperor Gods Festival. I don't think the term "Thetsagarn Jeen" exists.
• Thetsagarn Wan wâi Prá Jahn corresponds to Mid-Autumn Festival.

For future reference, you might like to try searching the Thai Wikipedia and find corresponding inter-language links to determine English names of Thai words. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 04:48, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 2230 articles are assigned to this project, of which 406, or 18.2%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Table of contents

Wikipedia's page that serves as a table of contents for its Thailand content is the the List of basic Thailand topics.

It's not quite done, and needs you to refine and maintain it.

The Transhumanist    23:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

List of basic Thailand topics needs maps and pictures

This list has just been moved to article space from the basic topics lists WikiProject. It's useful enough to be in article space, but it still has some redlinks and missing topics, and it desperately needs maps and pictures.

It needs dedicated editors to look after it.

The Transhumanist    23:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: please place it on your watchlist!

Need Thai

Need Thai at Lao Lom. Badagnani (talk) 16:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

If I am not totally wrong, Lao Lom are ลาวหล่ม, and the Lao Loum (Lao Lum) are ลาวลุ่ม. andy (talk) 11:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

People's Alliance for Democracy

People's Alliance for Democracy is going through an edit war. Heavens child, BasicallySo, and GoodHands, all users created at approximately the same time, have repeatedly reverted several edits and have refused to discuss the disagreements in the Talk page. Please have a look and see if you can make some 3rd party suggestions. Patiwat (talk) 06:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at WP:SOCK and follow the guidelines there if you suspect multiple accounts by the same user are being used to influence the article. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 16:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Thailand

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hinduism in Thailand

Does anyone want to expand it to make it its own article? Right now it is only a small section in Hinduism_in_Southeast_Asia. Its surely deserves to be longer.--D-Boy (talk) 03:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Thai political crisis

that article is sorely in need of an update to the recent events. Wondering if someone can help in that regard? Lihaas (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Problem Pattern of Behavior

Just a heads up regarding a pattern of behavior that I saw with an anonymous IP user tonight- User:125.238.152.234 ran through a large number of Thai-related pages, particularly regarding mixed-ethnicity Thai celebrities and Thai people of Mon or Laotian heritage removing or blunting references to their non-Thai ethnic heritage. People from Category:Thai people of Mon descent and Category:Thai people of Mon descent along with various luk kreung celebrities seemed to be the main targets. --Clay Collier (talk) 07:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

FAR on Isan

I have nominated Isan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Colchicum (talk) 22:52, 23 November 2008 (UTC)