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As for the hip hop thing, the reason Swayze means "gone" is because he starred in 'Ghost'. It's not a comment on his career. |
As for the hip hop thing, the reason Swayze means "gone" is because he starred in 'Ghost'. It's not a comment on his career. |
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"Hypoxia in descent" does not exist. Hypoxia can occur only at altitude. Returning to ground level cures it immediately. Sounds like BS. |
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== Patricks other movies == |
== Patricks other movies == |
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I can't believe I spelt 'Donnie Darko' wrong, I must be tired! Thanks "Obli" :-) redcountess 23:09, Feb 28, 2004 (UTC)
Apparently there's no entry for the North and South Miniseries.. the link is wrong the moment.
--Delpino 23:29, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Questions
"He is also known for his spirituality." ??? This is so vauge it's pointless. I think it should be removed unless someone adds a little more.
Also, I wonder if this article should mention that he sang and wrote the lyrics to "She's Like the Wind" from the Dirty Dancing soundtrack. --Quasipalm 14:04, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
In List of Scientologists Swayze is identified as being a scientologist... can we get some clarification? K-UNIT 09:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
In hip hop slang, to be Swayze is to be gone.
How do we verify this??? - CobaltBlueTony 16:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
It's common knowledge... do a search on it.
He has stated in printed articles that he believes in the healing power of Crystals. He keeps them around his ranch for protection and wore a Crystal around his neck on his television interveiw with Tony Danza last week. Does this count as a Religion?Marcus9 13:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes to Quasipalm, Patrick Swayze wrote and sang his own song, "She's like the Wind" in the movie Dirty Dancing. He wrote it years before he made the movie. He sang it at parties he attended. When they needed a song for, "Baby" Patrick suggested his song. They heard it and it was accepted/inserted into the movie. All songs in Dirty Dancing went Gold, including his song.Marcus9 13:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Crystals are a belief, not a Religion. Never have I heard or read the Baptist Religion mentioned by him, nor being in Sciencetology. (This does not mean he did not say this, this only means, I did not hear or read it.) I agree that should be removed off the front page unless someone has proof that he mentioned these on an interview. I read in articles he was raised Catholic and an, "Altar Boy." Later, after he married, he looked into Buddhism, EST and a few other beliefs, but only his belief on the power of Crystals were consistantly mentioned.JosieB 14:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
As for the hip hop thing, the reason Swayze means "gone" is because he starred in 'Ghost'. It's not a comment on his career.
Flying incident
"Hypoxia in descent" does not exist. Hypoxia can occur only at altitude. Returning to ground level cures it immediately. Sounds like BS.
Patricks other movies
The list of Patricks movies is not complete. Here are more movies he was in.
2004 George and the Dragon 2003 One Last Dance 2001 Green Dragon 2000 Forever Lulu(aka Along for the Ride USA video title) 1998 Black Dog 1995 Three Wishes 1995 Tall Tale 1992 City of Joy 1979 Skatetown U.S.A.
Why not add the t.v. movies?
2004 King Solomon's Mines 1986 Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories (Life on Death
Row)
1985&86 North and South 1984 Pigs Vs. Freaks 1981 Return of the Rebels 1980 The Comeback Kid Sue3646 21:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
And how could anyone forget "Magnolia?" (unless they've succumbed to fear?) 208.61.124.173 (talk) 15:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- You know, you can just add the information, you don't need to ask permission, I doubt anyone's camping on the swayze page. If you're worried about verifiability, then just source it some how. 66.233.248.181 (talk) 19:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Question
Is it really important to know what his favorite colors are? I don't really mind it being there, but it just seems unnecessary. Any comments on the matter?
- I would say "favorites" are a bad territory to enter: Do we want to know every celeb's favorite colors? Why not favorite food? And favorite ice cream, and favorite soft drink... Unless it's really relevant somehow (Jack White's favorite colors influence the band's color scheme, for instance) I say such trivia is not encyclopedic. Rainman420 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Actors Favorite
To fans an actors favorite of anything is important. Interviews have said Patrick Swayze favorite color is black. Favortie Food - Sushi, Favorite ice cream, Ben and Jerry's and favorite soft drink. It is revelent to a fan that is taking the time to look up their favorite actor, and revelent to anyone doing research to, "know" the actor. (JosieB 16:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)) (JosieB 16:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
- Sure. On a fansite, but this is an encyclopedia. Ashmoo 05:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree with Josie on this one. If data of whatever type is out there sufficiently to become part of the topic, it belongs in the article as it rounds out the body of knowledge of the topic. Jkolak (talk) 05:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Actors Married Life
Patrick has been married to Lisa Niemi since June 12, 1975 (I was her maid of honor). They met in a dancing class of Patrick's mother Patsy Swayze. This is common knowledge. They have one of the more famous longterm happy marriages in Hollywood. This is easily verifiable. Thanks.
Sincerely, Pamela Wagner 301-699-2119 (I am a researcher by profession and an old friend of Patrick's and Lisa's) (JosieB 16:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
Vandalism
This section I removed as it has nothing to do with Patrick Swayze. (JosieB 16:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC))User:JosieB
- It's not supposed to be about Patrick Swayze, but the Patrick Swayze article. Prometheus-X303- 06:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I always make fun of people who ask this
I always make fun of people who ask questions on wikipages, User:Travb/If I had a nickel
But out of desperation, here I go. I can't find an article that talks about Patrick Swayze being the worst actor and being responsible for the worst movies of all time, including Red Dawn, anyone read this article, if so were did you read it at? Please message me on my talk page if you have, because I am not going to watch this page. I will then track down this article and post it offline for all to read. Sounds good? Travb (talk) 13:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
hip hop expression added
I didn't add references, but a simple google search will give lyrics. I think this type of material falls under common knowledge. Does anyone definitively know the earliest use of the expression? I know it must've been early 90s. JesseRafe 01:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Guys and Dolls citation
I'm new here (I just registered about 2 minutes ago), so I'm not really sure how to do this, but I found some websites that could be used as citations for the line about Patrick appearing in Guys and Dolls in London. Hopefully someone here will know what to do with them. Here are the links: Playbill article: http://www.playbill.com/news/article/101104.html BBC article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5040164.stm Thanks! Swayzefan100 18:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Age posted here for Patrick isn't accurate
I knew the Swayzes when I was a kid. I went to all the same public schools as them, the boys sometimes came to our house, and his mother Patsy taught me to swim. Patrick was known as "Buddy" Swayze then, and his brother Don was "Donnie."
Patrick couldn't have been born in 1952. That would make him my sister's age, but he was actually three years ahead of her at school. His agent probably concocted that year to keep him bankable on the screen. His correct birth year would be about 1949. The exact year should be easy enough to verify from county records.
Patsy's dance studio was adjacent to our old high school. It had a large swimming pool in back, so she gave dance lessons inside and swimming lessons out back. Sis was a student of Patsy's, and danced with Patrick many times in company recitals. He briefly had crush on her when they were teenagers, but she was never interested in him. This was around the mid-1960's.
The article suggests Patrick and Lisa Niemi met when she was 15. Assuming the 1956 birth year listed in her Wikipedia article is correct, that would make her exactly my age (just a month apart) -- meaning Patrick would have been 22 or so at the time. Obviously Lisa's birthdate is agent-concocted as well. She has to be closer to my sister's age (born 1952), since they were students of Patsy's at the same time. Sis knew her vaguely, but not well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.250.145.24 (talk) 22:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
Cancer
All of you couldn't wait to get home and print the latest info? Don't any of you have anything better to do than debate a man's illness. I just love to see how quick someone will update a site when new info comes out. Go through the pain and rigors or dealing with cancer, see what it does mentally and physically and then decide if you want to debate the merits of where the info came from. Better yet, get a job as a reporter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.249 (talk) 01:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Surely using an Enquirer article as a citation is merely speculation when it hasn't been confirmed by a reputable source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.133.109 (talk) 17:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- It was reported by many reputable sources. I don't know why they chose the Enquirer article instead of actually looking it up. I fixed it so it isn't made to look like just rumor, because its not. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- yes, but the news organizations all cite the Enquirer as the source of the news so I'm still not sure it should be given credible status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.79.35.227 (talk) 20:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. The only source of this is actually the National Enquirer. All other news sources are relying solely on the Enquirer. Repeating a unreliable source multiple times does not make it more reliable. Given that this is a BLP, I'm removing the segment until it is INDEPENDENTLY reported by multiple reliable sources, per policy. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 20:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know how this whole discussion system works but a couple minutes ago Swayze's publicist confirmed the news. Also, the whole "has only 5 weeks to live" part should be removed, unless 1) it is a fact, and 2)you want to update the info weekly(talk)16:47 5 March 2008 (EST)
- If you have a reputable source confirming that, please add it. in the meantime, I'm going with WP:BLP: Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space. TJRC (talk) 21:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have reinserted the paragraph in question with a new source as reference. A rep of the actor has now confirmed his illness. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 22:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Someone seems certain that the post choronical link is required so I've left that and added a couple of more reliable sources so that this isn't reverted again. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 22:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nice work. That's what was needed. TJRC (talk) 22:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Someone seems certain that the post choronical link is required so I've left that and added a couple of more reliable sources so that this isn't reverted again. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 22:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have reinserted the paragraph in question with a new source as reference. A rep of the actor has now confirmed his illness. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 22:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you have a reputable source confirming that, please add it. in the meantime, I'm going with WP:BLP: Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space. TJRC (talk) 21:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know how this whole discussion system works but a couple minutes ago Swayze's publicist confirmed the news. Also, the whole "has only 5 weeks to live" part should be removed, unless 1) it is a fact, and 2)you want to update the info weekly(talk)16:47 5 March 2008 (EST)
- Agreed. The only source of this is actually the National Enquirer. All other news sources are relying solely on the Enquirer. Repeating a unreliable source multiple times does not make it more reliable. Given that this is a BLP, I'm removing the segment until it is INDEPENDENTLY reported by multiple reliable sources, per policy. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 20:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- yes, but the news organizations all cite the Enquirer as the source of the news so I'm still not sure it should be given credible status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.79.35.227 (talk) 20:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Seems like the info is still majorly in flux, with the 5 weeks thing in particular now being disavowed.[1] Dstumme (talk) 22:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, here is a reference where his named doctor is quoted as dismissing those claims - that trumps un-named "spokesperson" in my book. I tried to stick it in but the reference system defeated me. --Fredrick day (talk) 23:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- My apologies for my out of order edit summary in the article- it's just a family member recently passed from the same complaint and reading about it made me tense and upset - sorry. --Fredrick day (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
[2] "“Actor Patrick Swayze has been diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer and is currently undergoing treatment,” a rep for the actor said in a statement released on Wednesday. “Patrick is continuing his normal schedule during this time, which includes working on upcoming projects. The outpouring of support and concern he has already received from the public is deeply appreciated by Patrick and his family.”" "According to the statement, Swayze’s physician Dr. George Fisher said, “Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far. All of the reports stating the timeframe of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue. We are considerably more optimistic.”" Ottava Rima (talk) 01:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know who added the part about him dying, but it's pretty pathetic. I was going to remove it, but somebody beat me to it. Cmw72 (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
PATRICK SWAYZE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED IN JANUARY. PLEASE REVIEW YOUR SOURCES FOR ACCURACY. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20182481,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.93.220.33 (talk) 21:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the reference quoted in the article says January. And the one currently used for citation seems more reliable and thorough than the People one you posted. -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) • I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 21:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
The links at the end of the first sentence of the cancer subsection of the article no longer exist. I have seen media reports stating January and March as the month when he was diagnosed. Can anyone confirm which month he was diagnosed? It is very relevant considering the fact that most people with pancreatic cancer are dead within a year of being diagnosed. Werdnawerdna (talk) 01:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
health
is he still sick have not heard anything i hope so i just love him he is agreat actor i have all his movies hope to see new ones . --76.181.111.150 (talk) 21:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC) tabby clark buckeyelake ohio
Best known role
"His best-known movie role is as the surfer, philosopher, and bank robber Bodhi from the film 'Point Break.'" Hardly. Not only is this statement completely subjective, but I would think his notoriety also solidly stems from Road House, Ghost, Dirty Dancing and Red Dawn.
While I'm not a fan of some of these, I would consider all of them quite popular with Swayze in the lead role.
Ghost's pottery scene with Demi Moore? "Nobody puts baby in a corner?" Convincing his friend to urinate in his truck's radiator and carrying a dead Charlie Sheen through town? These are staple images from his acting career. —Preceding unsigned comment added by G8rtrance (talk • contribs) 14:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm removing the unsourced claim that Swayze skated with Disney On Ice in the early 1970's. That show didn't come into existence until 1981. Dr.frog (talk) 17:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Early Career
Something is wrong here. It is highly doubtful that he spent seven years at Joffrey. Much more likely is that he was dancing in some kind of dance troupe, or appearing as a model or something during this time from 1972 until 1979. Anyone want to check out newspaper listings, see what pops? I'm a bit suspicious of any large gaps in the career of well-known people, even early years — especially early years.Wjhonson (talk) 00:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
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