Talk:Patrick Swayze

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songs[edit]

the Young MC song What's The Flava? has a line at the send of the song that goes "I'm Audi. I'm ghost. I'm Swayze." source: the Young MC song What's The Flava? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.226.20 (talk) 02:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Archive[edit]

Previous content moved to Talk:Patrick Swayze/Archive

Dates[edit]

He couldn't possibly have died eight months after january 2008 if he died 15 september 2009, could he? I'm confused about the facts, could somebody else change this? - User:Peter sjoberg —Preceding undated comment added 09:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC).

This article is partially locked, so I can't correct the math error. Can someone please fix the line in the opening section that says Swayze was diagnosed with Stage IV pancreatic cancer in January 2008 and died 8 months later? I don't know when he was actually diagnosed, but there certainly were more than 8 months between diagnosis and death. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.234.73.42 (talk) 10:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
He was diagnosed in Jan 2008, announced it publicly Jan 2009 and died eight months later (No, I can't change it either).

--Daniel Macintyre (talk) 10:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Most sources state he was diagnosed in January 2008, which was announced by the media later in 2008. Qzm (talk) 10:56, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
2ND PARAGRAPH, FIRST LINE: STILL NOT CORRECTED FROM JANUARY 2009 TO JANUARY 2008. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CORRECT IT? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.70.40.17 (talk) 11:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, whoever corrected the year. Delete the comma after Stage IV pancreatic cancer

as well so that it makes better sense. Two commas are not needed in that sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.70.40.17 (talk) 12:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistency - can someone please edit?[edit]

In the second paragraph of the introduction, we are told that PS was diagnosed with cancer in Jan 2009, whereas in the paragraph about his illness and death we are told that it was January 2008.

I cannot edit. Could someone please change this? Mrskronster (talk) 11:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

It is correct as it is, although the wording could perhaps be made clearer. Qzm (talk) 11:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It states that he was diagnosed in Jan '08 and died 8 months afterwards, which would make yesterday the first anniversary of his death. He died about twenty months afterwards. Someone correct this please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.171.206.112 (talk) 11:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It says diagnosed Jan '08, interview a year later, died 8 months after that, which means 8 m after interview. It is correct, but should be more clearly worded. Qzm (talk) 13:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Returned to previous wording that was clearer on this point. Tvoz/talk 13:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Birth order[edit]

Patrick Swayze is not the oldest child. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Momlovejoy (talkcontribs) 18:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done His sister Vicky was born first. Article improving (talk) 19:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Date of death[edit]

mistack he died the 15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.153.86 (talk) 20:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

He died in Los Angeles, it was the 14th there when he died. Article improving (talk) 21:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Lede[edit]

Removal of second paragraph[edit]

User:Wesley M. Curtus removed most of the lede, which was later quickly reinstated by another editor. He has now removed it again. His edit summaries both claimed it should be in the illness and death section, but he has not moved any of it, he removed it. It makes the lead far too short and removes all mention of his cancer, which was a major part of his life (public, personal and career) last year and this year. Article improving (talk) 01:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

More info needed[edit]

Today, a tag was added to the top of the article stating that the lede is not substantial enough; the tag has since been removed, although the lede remains the same. What specific information does anyone think needs to be added to it? Article improving (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The second para of the lede is now in the Illness and death section. I believe the lede should mention his final illness at least briefly; it had a major negative impact on his career as well as his life, causing him to have to permanently cease filming The Beast midway through its first season. He also gave interviews in which he talked about his cancer and his condition received a great deal of media coverage during the last year and a half. Article improving (talk) 19:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Is his role in Point Break important enough to put in the lede? Article improving (talk) 01:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

It's lead not lede. Learn to spell. --ScythreTalkContribs 19:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I think "lead" is better but I can understand why AI would refer to it as "lede". Don't be a dick, S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.195.231.74 (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
        • I don't think it fair to say that "The Beast" was ill fated!!!! In fact, it had been decided that there would indeed be a second season and it was after that decision was made, that his illness took a turn for the worse and he then could not continue filming. I had only ever heard good things about the series.**** 70.42.92.126 (talk) 02:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)Sheryl 9/17/2011

Category:American Christians[edit]

Patrick Swayze is linked to this category, but I do not see anything in the article supporting this claim. Could someone come up with some sourced evidence of Swayze's Christian beliefs? Otherwise, could the category tag be removed? It is not very informative, and seems merely speculative at this point. Thank you.

The article clearly states that the Swayze's were Roman Catholics... He also viewed his Buddhism's beliefs as a way to deal with his Father's death... Buddhism is not a Religion is a philosophy.

Gonzalez regimen for cancer treatment[edit]

I believe that what was said about the Gonzalez treatment is one sided and should be corrected. In a trails sponsored by the NIH, the survival times for Gonzalez tripled that of conventional treatment. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2002/10/56072

Find A Grave[edit]

Are the Find A Grave links ok, or do they constitute a conflict of interest? They appear to be very consistently added by one user. Mugs Bunny (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Forever Lulu[edit]

The movie called "Forever Lulu" (2000) has been released on DVD as "Along for the Ride" (2000). Not sure which is the correct title or whether both should be listed. Might have been a renaming/repackaging of movie for sale after Patrick's death. Cannot modify chart as the entire page has been locked. 64.62.104.66 (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

High Times Magazine mistake?[edit]

I'm reading the December 2009 issue of High Times, and on page 14, there's a mini section about Patrick Swayze smoking marijuana.

Quote:

A source close to Patrick Swayze told the National Enquirer that medical marijuana is improving the actor's health. Swayze, who is undergoing chemotherapy treatments for pancreatic cancer, says that smoking pot has enabled him to gain weight because it has helped reduce nausea, allowing him to "keep his food down".

Is it just me or is High Times abit behind on their news? 199.212.27.249 (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

THIS WAS A LIE STARTED BY THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.......AND HIGH TIMES REPEATED IT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swayze312 (talkcontribs) 20:54, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Career section: citation needed[edit]

Under the "Career" section, the text describes the movie "Ghost" as having "considerable cultural impact". This should be cited, removed or tagged "citation needed". Factosis (talk) 00:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

It's of minimal relevance here, and should be dealt with in the Ghost article. Accordingly, I've edited to remove that. Rodhullandemu 01:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Blood Brothers[edit]

he was in season 9 episode blood brothers 1981. i dont recall what the name of his character was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luderudecrude (talkcontribs) 07:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Filmography - SNL[edit]

Saturday Night Live should not be on the "Filmography" section - it's a TV show. Agreed? Kvsh5 (talk) 17:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Spelling in introduction[edit]

Hello,

I am unable to correct the spelling of the word "cancelled" at the end of the introduction of this article, which has been left as "canceled". Could someone please perform the correction for me? SimonCann (talk) 19:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)SimonCann 25/02/10

"Canceled" and "cancelled" both work.Mcvmccarty (talk) 03:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Mother[edit]

Patsy Swayze's (our mother) name is NOT Patricia.

Don Swayze —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swayze312 (talkcontribs) 20:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Under his death it states that he was survived by his LATE mother. Poor wording. It should just say survived by his mother and then perhaps point out (deceased 2013). [meanderer] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.161.188.150 (talk) 21:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Changed "late mother" to "mother" and added link to her article. Pointing out in this article that she is now deceased does not seem necessary to me. Kevinsam (talk) 00:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Ethnicity[edit]

Is it ever revealed what his ethnicity was? I was curious, as it is stated that his wife's parents came directly from Finland. Thanks in advance. Estheroliver (talk) 04:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

It seems that it is disputed; see the archive for a discussion on the matter. Jim Michael (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Name giving family ancestor Swasey stems from Suffolk County, England — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:490E:263:1DF2:2161:D318:BA9A (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request from 99.5.105.232, 16 May 2011[edit]

You've left out Patrick's sister Bambi. She is an adopted child but shouldn't be left out of her family!

99.5.105.232 (talk) 07:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

DoneBility (talk) 18:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Cultural Impact[edit]

"Swayze" was recently used in the song Fastlane by Eminem on his collaboration album released a few days ago (Hell: The Sequel), if anyone is interested in adding that to the list of hip hop songs/artists who've used "Swayze" as a synonym for gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeutscherStahl (talkcontribs) 18:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

This fact has been included by the time I read this. 3dSurveyor (talk) 09:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Swayze's Role in Happy Days[edit]

Patrick Swayze appeared in the 1978 episode of Happy Days, entitled "Richie Gets Framed". Swayze plays the role of Fred Collins, Richie's student council presidental opponent who frames Richie with a photo from a massage parlor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.110.23.183 (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Another Series Patrick played in[edit]

TV Series - The Renegades - Patrick Swayze played Bandit. Series was on ABC in 1982 and only had 6 episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.234.21 (talk) 13:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC) He also played in a movie with Barbara Eden in 1981 - Return of the Rebels - he played K.C. Barnes - about a motorcycle gang that gathers together after 25 yrs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.234.21 (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Smoking comment appropriate?[edit]

The statement "Photos taken of a gaunt Swayze in the months before his death showed him continuing to smoke" seems unnecessary, and a bit morbid. I'm guessing its author was intending to showcase the diabolical addictiveness of smoking. However, I feel it doesn't really sell the anti-smoking message as much as it gives a pathetic, helpless picture of a man very near death.

Smoking, while obviously very harmful to one's health, is no longer strongly contraindicated when someone has stage IV pancreatic cancer. No reasonable doctor would tell him he would live much longer if he stopped smoking at that point, given the advanced stage and very low survivability of the disease. Telling someone to stop smoking after they've been diagnosed is like closing the barn after the cows have fled.

Furthermore, stage IV pancreatic cancer patients who smoke find comfort in smoking, and doctors largely encourage all possible comfort measures in diseases with such a poor prognosis. It may sound wrong to the general public, but it's a fairly common attitude in medicine. In light of this, I feel like the statement has a negative implication, and it's my opinion that it should be deleted.Mcvmccarty (talk) 03:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

If that were a wikipedia editor's original caption of a photograph, then it would be unencyclopedic editorializing. But that is an accurate one-sentence synopsis of the referenced article, and what the main thrust of the article is about. Seems fine to me. JesseRafe (talk) 04:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Protection?[edit]

Why is this article permanently protected while millions of others aren't? The guys been dead since 2009! This seems to be too much about Wikipedian OWN than anything. The BLP tag no longer applies so what it's all about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.151.190 (talk) 11:26, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Lead[edit]

There is this paragraph in the lead "Diagnosed with Stage IV pancreatic cancer in January 2008, Swayze told Barbara Walters a year later that he was "kicking it".[2] However, he died from the disease on September 14, 2009.[3] His last role was the lead in an ill-fated A&E TV series, The Beast, which premiered on January 15, 2009. Due to a prolonged decline in health, Swayze was unable to promote the series, and it was cancelled by June 2009." No other article has something like this in the lead, I don't think. Their deaths you usually have to scroll down to find out about, and a random show they happened to be in at the time wouldn't be in the lead either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.26.164 (talk) 09:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 November 2012[edit]

he fuck b 67.168.143.254 (talk) 04:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I'm assuming you meant to type something else. If so, please try again. Rivertorch (talk) 06:14, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 April 2013[edit]

In Filmography section, the table that list the movies is off. In 1984, the two movies there have been shifted and they have skewed the table at that area. 12.167.75.11 (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. I rarely mess with tables, but I think I fixed it. It looks all right on my browser now, anyway. Rivertorch (talk) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Brat Pack[edit]

The article sourced as him being a member of the Brat Pack has nothing about him being in it, and the wiki Brat Pack page doesn't include him as a member. Unless another source can be found, it should be removed, and if one is found, he should be added to the Brat Pack page. --Stevehim (talk) 15:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Done. Livingston 05:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 September 2013 Patrick Swayze added movie[edit]

Patrick Swayze was also In a popular movie with Wesley Snipes as a drag queen called "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar" In 1995 . three New York drag queens who embark on a road trip. The film's title refers to a totemic autographed photo of Julie Newmar that the trio carries with them on their journey. "Regardless of his natural, rugged handsomeness, Patrick Swayze embodied the soul of a woman, better than any other on this list. Although he was an attractive female, he was not the most externally convincing woman; however, his performance got him on this list. His character showed a sweet, womanly sister-ship love and maternal nature, and this made him one of the truest women “on the inside” as well as on the outside. He personified the strength of self-esteem and the gentleness and kindness of a real woman. He made a beautiful woman, inside and out."

50.93.92.101 (talk) 01:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Not done: It's already in the list at Patrick_Swayze#Filmography. RudolfRed (talk) 03:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Also found it surprising that this hit movie and great success is not even mentioned in the text on career: he got lot of praise for this part. Do the 'managers' of this page find this career move embarrasing or unimportant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.118.19.199 (talk) 10:56, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Teen idol?[edit]

The introduction says Swayze was a teen idol. Surely he was too old, as he was in his mid-30s when he became very successful. (ColmMcCrory (talk) 21:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC))

facepalm. Murry1975 (talk) 17:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I understand your point but look at the teen idol article it says "A teen idol is a celebrity with a large teenage fan-base. Teen idols are generally young but not necessarily teenaged." There is no doubt he had a huge teen fan base because of his roles. Kap 7 (talk) 02:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

As the other 2 posters already noted, one does not need to be a teenager to become a teen idol. One needs to be a fan favourite of teenagers, to become one. Patrick Swayze definitely fitted the bill, because after his success with Dirty Dancing, a lot of teenaged girls developed huge crushes on him, fantasizing that they were the ones who were dancing with him, in that final movie scene.--Splashen (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

oddly placed sentence[edit]

"For his contributions to the film industry, he was given a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1997" is under the illness and death section. Shouldn't it be placed somewhere else in the article? Kap 7 (talk) 01:19, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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