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:::No problem. I didn't go through the source but just updated the link. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|Enter CBW]], waits for audience [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|applause]], not a [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|sausage]]. 01:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC) |
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Can someone please upload a picture of Ali's sword? It is widely used as a symbol to represent Ali — the "Lion of Men" |
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oldest known picture
ok i have heard from what I thought are reliable sources that this (http://www.activistchat.com/images/ImamAli.jpg) is oldest known picture of Hazrat e Ali. Can someone please clear that up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.113.143 (talk) 06:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I seriously doubt that. Just look at the detail in that picture and its style. Looks nothing like any Arab or Islamic art of the time period. 169.234.3.201 (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Seen it. It is not a picture of Imam Ali (peace be upon him). It was a drawing made by some Salafis to make fun of Imam Ali (peace be upon him). I have verificiations of this. Those Arab historians are far from that. We have actual descriptions of Imam Ali (peace be upon him). He looked more like Prophet Jesus the Messiah (peace be upon him) and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) then anyone else. HaterofIgnorance (talk) 00:46, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
H. Ali's Birthday
The data that is available about the birth-date of H. Ali are as follows:
- He was born on Friday, 13th Rajab ?? BH.
- He was born either in the year 598, 599 or 600 AD.
- He was 63 years old when he died. (according to the Islamic calendar)
- He passed away on Thursday, 21st Ramazan 40 AH (28th January 661 AD).
Let’s start with his age. He was 63 when he passed away.
40 – 63 = – 23.
i.e. he was born on 13th Rajab 23 BH. If we check whether this date was Friday or not, using the softwares given below, we find that this date was Friday. Therefore we have reached the correct date and correct year. On corresponding it with the Julian date we get Friday, 9th October 599 AD. We double check it as this date is in the potential year in the range of 598 and 600.
BH – Before Hijrat
AH – After Hijrat
AD – Anno Domini
Calculations are done using the following softwares:
- http://emr.cs.iit.edu/home/reingold/calendar-book/Calendrica.html (a java applet)
- World Calendar 1.2
- Moon Calculator 6.0
- Calendar Magic 14.6 and other astronomical softwares. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myshare (talk • contribs) 14:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunally you can't calculate his birthday and then add it to the article. It's original research. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 07:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Reign as Caliph
Regarding the last sentence of the first paragraph under the section "caliphate" and sub-section "Reign as Caliph". Please provide references for the names of the authors and publications in which they have claimed so. The reference provided leads to an error. I will delete it and anyone may re-enter it only with reasonable reference to avoid misleading information until then.
Reign as Caliph
Regarding the last sentence of the first paragraph under the section "caliphate" and sub-section "Reign as Caliph". Please provide references for the names of the authors and publications in which they have claimed so. The reference provided leads to an error. I will delete it and anyone may re-enter it only with reasonable reference to avoid misleading information until then.Mr.oncogene (talk) 02:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I updated and restored the Encyclopædia Iranica link, which was used 19 times in the article, to the current page on Ali. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 05:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for repairing the link and referring me to the guide on how to do so. I have visited the cited reference page and I am unable to find anything in there regarding the statement "... some authors have pointed out that he lacked political skill and flexibility". Presumably it would be against wikipedia's rules to cite a reference that does not support a "claim" or "statement". I do not know about the rest of 19 citations but I am therefore going to remove the above mentioned statement from the article and encourage fellow editors to use references appropriately. Mr.oncogene (talk) 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. I didn't go through the source but just updated the link. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 01:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Zulfiqar
Can someone please upload a picture of Ali's sword? It is widely used as a symbol to represent Ali — the "Lion of Men"
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