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== [[Serfs Emancipation Day]] == |
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Dear Bertport, I have added an information relative to Warren W. Smith reaction [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Serfs_Emancipation_Day&diff=376776773&oldid=356513116] in the article, but another contributor suppressed the info and made important changes in the article. As you contacted me before about this article, I think you might be intrested to have a look. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Rédacteur Tibet|Rédacteur Tibet]] ([[User talk:Rédacteur Tibet|talk]]) 15:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes for just your name. If you have any questions, you can post to the help desk To create a page that just redirects to an existing one, just put one line in the new page: #redirect [[title of target page]] Adding tones to pinyinI fully support your addition of tone diacriticals to pinyin on Wiki! Jiāyóu! BTW, pls consider adding your voice to the discussion in section 2.1.1 here.Dragonbones 04:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC) Pinyin article title movesI notice you've been moving a lot of articles to the titles in pinyin with diacritics. I'm not sure that's a good idea. See discussion at Making changes on David KeirseyI noticed you rejected my changes and additions to my father's (David Keirsey) page. In general I don't try to interfere with people's additions or changes to my father's page, except when I feel they are adding wrong or confusing information. In that case I try to correct or clarify the added material. If you are interested in relating Carl Jung's work to my father's and Isabel Myers, please make sure that you know what you are talking about. And if you are going to reject changes, make sure that you have a solid basis for doing so. Giving more credit to Jung for Myers work or misleading statements about Jung's influence on my father's ideas, are not acceptable to me. Edit wars on Wikipedia are not productive. To give you an example of misleading information -- "the sixteen types" and their descriptions was from Isabel -- Jung did not have any notion of "sixteen types" -- your writings had implied or at least did not make it clear -- many people attribute too much to Jung, than rather Myers, and unfortunately there is too much attribution of Jung ideas influencing my father also holds for my father's work too.
I agree it is not a matter of feelings -- but by standards of documented facts. The references are fine, more the better. Notice I didn't delete that, on my edit. Although there is no such thing as an objective point of view, implied by facts. Everybody has their own point of view and bias(despite the "ideal" of Wikipedia policy) The fact is Katherine and Isabel acknowledged Jung's influence on their work, but "implementation of Jung's definitions" does not consider the fact that the sixteen types described by Isabel Myers (in the Myers Briggs Manual Form E, pages 70-71, 1958) is not a "mere" implementation of Jung's confusing ideas in Psychological Types. There is no place in Psychological Types that he mentions sixteen types of people -- he talks abstractly about many things - thinking, feeling, introversion, extroversion, intuition, and sensation. But you are short changing Myers in your prose, confusing the reader, and making it as though my father's ideas are based on Jung directly. Jung had very little influence on my father, on the positive. He had read Jung's Psychological Types, before encountering Myers, and didn't find any use for it. If you want to give credit to Jung, which he does deserve, I suggest you focus on -- his opposing of Freud's nonsense, and suggesting that there "types" (unfortunately he used the word "archetypes" to confuse the issue.) http://users.viawest.net/~keirsey/difference.html
The article is a composition of numerous individuals as are all wikipedia articles -- the prose is the result of a "committee" -- they are not my ideas, my logic, and all my writing -- only by evolution does the article get better (and sometimes worse). I appreciate your interest and I only try to correct things that I see which are out of wack or not correct, sometimes simple things like misspelling of the Keirsey name ;-) This is not the article I would write about my father. Peace. AfD nomination of Buddhist polemicsRE: Tibet during the Ming DynastyI would encourage the involved users to pursue Dispute Resolution. Edit warring is disruptive, and doesn't solve anything. - Rjd0060 (talk) 16:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Hello Bertport, I have recently moved LaGrandefr's clunky tables down to their own section at the end, as they were a complete eyesore and distraction in the "Assertions in the Mingshi" section of the article. I'd like to get your opinion of this on the talk page in the relevant talk page section on tables that you started.--Pericles of AthensTalk 20:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Recently, User:Collectonian has opposed the candidacy of Tibet during the Ming Dynasty as a featured article. One of the reasons he chose to oppose the article was that it lacked stability and people were still in disagreement about the title of the article. Yesterday, I stated on the talk page of the article that I was not opposed to LaGrandefr's suggestion that the title could be changed, and I offered "Tibetan history during the Ming Dynasty", which was slightly different from his suggestion of "in the Ming Dynasty". I was wondering, since you opposed him in moving the article's title earlier, if you would weigh in and offer your opinion of "Tibetan history during the Ming Dynasty"? Thank you.--Pericles of AthensTalk 01:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Flap Jack KerouacYeah, I've got 'em, I just don't have time to go through all my materials today. They shall be forth-coming. Please don't revert it. If you just HAVE to, please, please, please, copy it and put in my talk section before you do, b/c I do have sources. Also, and this doesn't pertain to anything I've done so far, but do you think pictures of historical documents you take count as sources? They have a huge Beat exhibit in my town, Austin, including the scroll of On the Road and I've going back to get tons of pictures. I'm kinda doubting it. --Leodmacleod 3:17, 8 May 2008 Mediation CabalWell, well, well. It looks like our old pal LaGrandefr is up to some dirty tricks again; you should at least take a look, his allegations are rather humorous (as usual). If you look here, he's been trying for the past week to have the both of us (and everybody but administrators) blocked from editing Tibet during the Ming Dynasty. His latest comment was just yesterday, while we were simultaneously expanding the article and making major improvements.--Pericles of AthensTalk 16:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Yes, I saw this a few days ago. However, it looked to me like the people he was appealing to were probably getting a pretty good take on the situation. I also went back and read through the Talk page on TdtMD, and I thought a reasonable, unbiased third party would be skeptical of LaGrandefr. Bertport (talk) 17:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Did you notice, too, on Steve Crossin's user page, LG gave him a "diff" (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tibet_during_the_Ming_Dynasty&diff=210717906&oldid=209722180) that skipped 130 intermediate revisions, as evidence that you were doing something bad, he just couldn't say exactly what, to his work? Bertport (talk) 17:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Funny name, isn't it? Added some sources here. HTH --Faith (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Help to preserveHelp to preserve Serfdom in Tibet . They have edited out almost everything, there were 2 comments from Charles Bell about slavery, Amban, and Cumulus Clouds edited out the one mentioning children being sold as slaves, however left the one says slavery was mild. Thank You.Thanks for fixing my last edit/addition to the 'Beats' section on "Kenneth Rexroth". I sort of rushed the line, whch accounts for my having left out the correct linkage and punctuations. I understand now that one must post with a clear head, haha. I just saw red when I realised that the user "RepublicanJacobite" had removed it and also sent me a terse vandalism warning. You know, every now and then, one runs into a half-wit like "RepublicanJacobite", who feel and treat the Wiki entry as their own personal fiefdom, to add and subtract information, FACTUAL information when it doesnt jibe with their distorted world view.Its like trying to edit , say, the "American Muslim" page, where those with dogmatic agendas immediately erase any facual or historical additions. I'm a little worried this joker might try and block my usage...is there any chance for this? How does one block another user? How do I report this guy? Its obvious from his Wik-history that this fellow is short on academics and long on fawning and/or speculative puffery. Any help would be appreciated....you can even email me at, garagehero@yahoo.com Thanks. Garagehero (talk) 00:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi BertportHow's it going these days. I see you're still trying to work out the POV mess that is Serfdom in Tibet, although I have to say, the article looks like it has seen some significant progress. I've been working on List of Chinese inventions lately; go have a look and tell me what you think. Cheers!--Pericles of AthensTalk 05:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Hi Pericles. Yeah, I've been trying to exert some influence on Serfdom in Tibet, but I have the feeling there are other editors around who know a lot more about the topic already than I do, so I've kinda been waiting to see if they will step in. List of Chinese inventions is looking like another fine PoA product. Some 500 edits or so in the past week. Bertport (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Cut and paste of article contentHello there! I noticed you redirected the Tai chi article and cut and pasted the content into the Taijiquan article. This is in no way a comment on the merits of the rename, but rather the cut and paste. When material is cut and pasted over, it loses the edit history. This breaks the GFDL licensing (all contributors must be credited for their contributions). In future, if there is already a redirect at the title you would like to move an article to, you can request speedy deletion using {{db-move}}. You can then move the article to the deleted title. Happy editing! Seraphim♥Whipp 23:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Your History of Tibet comment"Individuals aren't conquered, except romantically." Hee! Longchenpa (talk) 18:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC) Sino-Tibetan bordersHi Bertport; Glad you enjoyed the treaty text. It is by no means the whole text - but I do agree with you it is pretty long and perhaps could be summarised here. (I am just recovering at the moment from a nasty illness and don't feel up to attempting it - but by all means please feel free to do so if you wish. I just copied it from where I inserted it some time ago in the article on Batang. The "nephew" and "uncle" bit is a politeness which referred to the marriages of the Tibetan emperors Songtsän Gampo and Mes-ag-tshoms to Chinese "princesses" and that, therefore, there was a familial relationship between the two royal families. I have just added some later material (also from the additions I made to the Batang article some time ago) on more recent border demarcations between Tibet and China. I think it is particularly telling of the de facto independent status of Tibet at the beginning of the 20th century that they had 400 troops in 1904 on one border point with China "to protect the frontier". Any comments you might have would be more than welcome. Cheers, John Hill (talk) 02:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Re: Warning on vandalismI consider myself a freedom on free speech. I myself am not afraid of being blocked by a western instition which prizes itself on systematically blaming China on everything from pollution to dafur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antalope (talk • contribs) 18:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC) You may be interestedI just heard about a new history of Tibet that discusses the propaganda war, "China's Tibet? Autonomy or Assimilation" by Warren W. Smith Jr. Jamyang Norbu has an interesting review of it up on his blog. Perhaps this would be an asset to Serfdom in Tibet controversy and provide a balancing source to Grunfeld and Goldstein in other history articles. I thought I'd bring this to your attention since I'm in the middle of nowhere and probably won't be able to get my hands on the book for a few months. --Gimme danger (talk) 19:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
CivilityJust wanted to drop off a reminder to stay cool when the editing gets hot, especially with this mutating IP on Tibet-related talk pages. Thank you for all your excellent work. --Gimme danger (talk) 01:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Pinyin vs Wade Giles in Cheng Man-ch'ing ArticleHello-- I strongly hold that one should use one or the other, but not how it is, all mixed up, except perhaps, names such as Cheng's which are commonly WG in America/European English usage. revertI with no doubt reverted your removal. Whether you like it or not in order to reach balance, viewpoints from both sides (Power and Goldstein) shall be presented equally. Accounts from America's top university Tibetologist (who even once first-hand interviewed Sambo and Ngabo, two of the Tibetan negotiators) seem unquestionably much more authoritative than those unsourced Wikipedia content inserted by Dharamsala propagandists. 116.48.63.112 (talk) 12:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC) What? I'd say that had a lot to do with the article, for the reason (most of) it was discussing article POV. Message from XENUcomplaints? leave me a message! 17:56, 29 November 2008 (UTC) How do you figure that? It starts with "warning! some other article just got created and it's POV!" and then goes into "what does 'pro-Tibet' mean?" Note the term 'pro-Tibet' does not appear in the article. Then it's "is lamaist a derogatory term?" which is another term not even used in the article. Then it's "what about the term 'papist'?" which is even further from the realm of the article. In the midst are a couple "this chat is out of scope" entries which are never refuted. I'm trying to clean out some of the old pointless (as in, irrelevant to article content) forum-talk, to reduce the impetus for newcomers to want to chime in their own two cents on off-topic comments. Bertport (talk) 18:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
What did I miss? I didn't see anything relevant in the entire section. Bertport (talk) 04:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC) Three Pillars of ZenMost people (including myself) own the revised expanded edition, (since that is the only ed. available to purchase) so I'm wondering how helpful it is to cite a 1967 edition in the article. Was it first published in 1965? Viriditas (talk) 01:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
TibetI just started a discussion of if Tibet is part of Central or East Asia here. Thought you might want to comment. --Keithonearth (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Thank youYour note regarding parentheses and em-dashes — on the Tibet talk page — made me smile. Cheers, Gimme danger (talk) 18:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC) Rainbow GatheringDear Bertport, I have watchlisted this article and would like to applaud you for reverting section blanking such as this. I am unsure why or who this person is, but it seems they would like to remove this particular incident. If you would like I can also step in, but it seems you're doing a fine job. Bravo! Basket of Puppies 20:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Tibet during the Ming DynastyHaha! Look at his contributions page; he hasn't edited Wiki since May 2008, and what is the first thing he comes back to almost a year later? Tibet during the Ming Dynasty. Classy. His edit seemed pretty inconsequential, but he did add a useless red link ("Tibet during the Yuan Dynasty") that pretty much gave you the best excuse to revert his edit. I still have the article on my watchlist, so sooner or later I would have noticed his tinkering, but nonetheless, thanks to bringing this to light immediately. I'm busy with other things, but if he's here to goof around again, I'm here to keep things in order. Cheers, old friend.--Pericles of AthensTalk 17:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello thereHi Bertport, I would like to ask your advice about how to select material to add to Tibet when I find new information, I left the question at Talk:Tibet, where we were talking about ROC in Lhasa. Please take a look. Thanks. --Chadsnook (talk) 05:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Please do not remove entire chunks of paragraphs from the Tibet article. Yes the article needs condensing but not by removing sections. The article must be summarised not devoid of a summary. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thanks for contributing, please see discussion pagehi bertport, please see the discussion page for the india-china war. thanks :)Zoomzoom316 (talk) 23:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC) I've started a section on the talk page to discuss the controversial text. --Gimme danger (talk) 20:48, 29 March 2009 (UTC) AfD nomination of 280 North, Inc.State Dept. sourceHi Bertport, I saw and appreciate your work on Tibet, for instance the article History of Tibet 1912-1949. I'm working mainly in Dutch language (nl.) on Tibet and I'm working on an article now on Human Rights in Tibet. Now I was wondering whether this source is the original one of the US State Dept.? I ask since the colors appear a bit cheap to me and you, as an American, might be familiar with ibiblio. If so it might be a hint for an article in English too? Thanks for your answer. Regards, Davin (talk) 08:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
MahabharatPlease dont Put vandalism on Mahabharat holy scripture.Cited Sources are unreliable .Nehru Discovery of India is more reliable source.So please dont put citation from vandalised sources —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.94.61.184 (talk) 12:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
ThanksI hope you will not be put off by my recent edits. I thought that a lot of the material was overly subjective, and I aimed for a more neutral presentation. Haiduc (talk) 01:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Out of the politeness, I give some explanation of my edits on Tibet.
I request you to exercise extreme care before a slight edit, for respecting everyone's contributions and also following the rules of Wikiepdia. Thank you!--LaGrandefr (talk) 00:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
revert?!I don't understand what you are doing, nothing has been removed from the article. Haiduc (talk) 01:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for your message relative to Serfs Emancipation Day. I have then transalted your last contribution on this article on the french wiki. All the best wishes ... including for 2010. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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Chinese restoration of TibetHello, please note that AfD is for deletion discussions of articles only. I have closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese restoration of Tibet as a procedural close and copied your original rationale to a new RfD discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 February 15. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC) TibetJust really irritates me the fuss some people cause over the TIbet article and their hidden propoganda and POV while people like I am working hard on on developing related articles and trying to keep it neutral that's all. I have no time for people like that... Regards. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 23:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry, he'll be blocked indefinately soon enough.... How he thinks he won't be blocked is silliness... He has no power... Why can't these editors be helping write nice related articles about TIbet instead....All those vmonasteries and villages. I;m currently working on a full article of Sera at the moment actually with Nvvchar you'll see it on the front page as a DYK in a few weeks... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 20:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC) CMTA request for formal mediation of the dispute concerning Christ myth theory has been filed with the Mediation Committee (MedCom). You have been named as a party in this request. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Christ myth theory and then indicate in the "Party agreement" section whether you would agree to participate in the mediation or not. Mediation is a process where a group of editors in disagreement over matters of article content are guided through discussing the issues of the dispute (and towards developing a resolution) by an uninvolved editor experienced with handling disputes (the mediator). The process is voluntary and is designed for parties who disagree in good faith and who share a common desire to resolve their differences. Further information on the MedCom is at Wikipedia:Mediation Committee; the policy the Committee will work by whilst handling your dispute is at Wikipedia:Mediation Committee/Policy; further information on Wikipedia's policy on resolving disagreements is at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. If you would be willing to participate in the mediation of this dispute but wish for its scope to be adjusted then you may propose on the case talk page amendments or additions to the list of issues to be mediated. Any queries or concerns that you have may be directed to an active mediator of the Committee or by e-mailing the MedCom's private mailing list (click here for details). Please indicate on the case page your agreement to participate in the mediation within seven days of the request's submission.
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You are now a ReviewerHello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010. Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages. When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Wikipedia:Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here. If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Courcelles (talk) 05:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC) Dear Bertport, I have added an information relative to Warren W. Smith reaction [2] in the article, but another contributor suppressed the info and made important changes in the article. As you contacted me before about this article, I think you might be intrested to have a look. Thanks in advance. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 15:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC) |