User talk:Suomi Finland 2009

Silver medal awarded at the 2010 Olympics! But we WILL get the bronze in men's hockey and also women's hockey. Or I will quit Wikipedia in protest for 2 weeks! :p

A bronze for women's hockey. Now it's gold for the men's or I will quit for 2 weeks. We will win it! Finland will play Canada and win the gold. Canada will get the silver. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 16:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

F! No gold medal in men's hockey for Finland. I should not have pledged to quit for 2 weeks unless Finland won the gold. However, I do not lie so I must honor my promise. However, if Finland gets the bronze, I will come back a little bit sooner than 2 weeks. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 01:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I will edit tomorrow, the 30th of September, though. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I am back Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 21:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I edited on November 1st. So there will be a wikibreak starting tomorrow for at least 24 hours. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 18:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Please do not remove redlinks

Please do not remove relinks from the articles, as you did with Alamogordo, New Mexico. Please see WP:REDDEAL, which says in part, "In general, a red link should be allowed to remain in an article if it links to a term that could plausibly sustain an article, but for which there exists no candidate article, or article section, under any name." Thank you. --Uncia (talk) 20:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

It is 1 October. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 00:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Editing about own company

The answer to your question is essentially yes. You are allowed to edit wherever you like, but editing in an area where you have a conflict of interest means that there is a very high probability of such edits being reverted. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 19:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, how are you involved with user:Annmarieburnett? --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 19:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I ask this question because of your apparent interest in her block and her unblock request; it is unusual for uninvolved editors to become involved as you did, although you are clearly entirely entitled to do so. And my answer is accurate. Edits violating WP:COI are usually reverted, but a decision is made individually on each one. It is possible to create a scenario in which such an edit would not be reverted, but it is unlikely in practice to happen. I remain unclear as to why, if you and user:Annmarieburnett are not connected, the question is relevant to you. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 20:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nokian Tyres

On November 30, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nokian Tyres, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 02:56, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

reflist

Reflist|2 makes the refs into 2 columns, I did it because they were getting a bit long in 1 column. Reflist|3 is three columns.  fetchcomms☛ 00:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

DRAMAOUT/2

Hey. Thanks for the barnstar, but it doesn't matter if we signed up a few hours late or not...

		The 2nd Anti-Drama Barnstar
		Awarded for participating in the 2nd Great Wikipedia Dramaout. Thanks for avoiding drama for 5 days!

Hope you like it. Nifky^{^} 10:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Policies

I generally don't keep hard, fast rules when it comes to policies vs. guidelines, but for the most part, I do feel that Wikipedia has become too policy driven as time has gone on. Things like the notability guidelines and essays are easy - they all derive from core content policy, so not only is it unnecessary to make the notability guidelines policy themselves, but doing so could create issues if a core policy were ever to change. Two policies acting against each other would lead to a mess.

I can't say for certain how I would view a policy that is based off a guideline, as I would need to know which policy is being referred to to make an informed judgement. It would also be relevant. Do you have a specific policy/guideline in mind, or is this more of a hypothetical discussion at this point?

Interesting. I think WP:BLP1E doesn't restrict articles on people known for only one thing but rather restricts low profile people known for one thing. Given how much effort is put into writing and rewriting WP:PEOPLE, it doesn't surprise me that the guideline is actually better written than the policy it is based off of. Cleaning it up should be relatively painless, I'd hope, and could be done via a discussion at WP:BLP. That said, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if any such effort was met with resistance. Resolute 22:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is any harm in discussing it on the talk page of WP:BLP if you feel it is important to reword the section. More eyes from the start would be better, and if the proposed changes are improvements, they should gain support. Resolute 00:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

While that certainly is streamlined, I don't think you would get much traction on a change that reduces the verbosity of the section. IMO, the policy page should clearly spell out what is and is not accepted practice, using the guideline page for extra examples and unusual situations. As such, you will want the BLP page section to be larger than it currently is, imo. Resolute 22:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1958 Major League Baseball All-Star Game

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

hey, hey, thank you! Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Galaxy 15

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Similar guideline

I would love to collaborate on it. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Monthly wikibreak

Note: I have a monthly wikibreak. I forgot to start on Tuesday, the first of the month. Therefore, I will start immediately. The minimum length is 24 hours but I could not find the right template. This is not an official block, just a self imposed wikibreak.

Template:Blocked user Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this:

As to your suggestion of working on Nokian Tyres, alas, I will be busy in the next bit working on articles related to players at the 2010 NHL Entry Draft. Best of luck with that article, however! Cheers, Resolute 15:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: having just returned from a lengthy (and unplanned) wikibreak, I have to say I think regular (scheduled!) breaks are an excellent idea. I came back refreshed - I hope you do too! TFOWR^{idle vapourings} 17:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Nokian

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Intelligentsium 18:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

At mine as well, I think I found some tools for you. ++Lar: t/c 22:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

cup

		2010 Wikicup Semi-finalist
		Awarded for progression into the 4th round (semi-finals) of the 2010 Wikicup

Dramaout

Hi! OK, I've caught up with things! You asked me whether I could deliver a userbox to everyone who participated? I think, having given it some proper consideration, that there's probably no need - participants who want the userbox can grab it themselves (though it would be a good idea to advertise the userbox a bit more at Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/3rd).

However... there is the small matter of the barnstar for those editors who wish to award one. I'd suggest that you should probably do the awarding, as organiser. I'd also suggest the following editors for the barnstar:

• Berean Hunter (talk · contribs)
• MPJ-DK (talk · contribs)
• Marasmusine (talk · contribs)
• Jack1956 (talk · contribs)
• AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs)
• Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs)
• WVRMad (talk · contribs)
• December21st2012Freak (talk · contribs)
• MC10 (talk · contribs)

(I also think you deserve a barnstar for organising the event, but I'd suggest that I should probably award that one ;-) )

The barnstar we currently have is for the 2nd Dramaout; I had a go earlier at creating a new one, but I'm an idiot when it comes to images. I can probably manage to upload what I've done to Wikipedia; however, I tried uploading to commons and it turns out I really am an idiot... so I may need your help with that ;-)

What do you think? Does that sound sensible?

TFOWR 12:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Dramaout

This user participated in the 2010 Great Wikipedia Dramaout, a dedicated effort to exclusively article write for five days from July 5th to 10th.

TFOWR suggested this for you.

		The 3rd Anti-Drama Barnstar
		Awarded for participating in the 3rd Great Wikipedia Dramaout. Thanks for participating to reduce drama during the festival!

Non-deleted AfDs

Interesting question. (1) It may have been closed by someone who isn't an admin, and so who can't delete the article. I don't think non-admins are meant to close deletion discussions as "delete" for this very reason, but I've not read WP:NAC recently. If this is the case, ask an admin to have a look at the situation. (2) It may have been closed by an admin who forgot to delete it (it does happen!) (3) It may have been deleted but recreated - check the page logs. The new article may be the same as the old, or different, or (in the case of someone with a common name) about someone completely different. In situations (2) and (3), my advice would be to ask the admin who closed the discussion to check, or if that admin isn't around, any admin. Hope this helps. Bencherlite^Talk 09:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Taichiro Morinaga

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Sagbo

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikibreak

I would like to take a week of so wikibreak in the memory of Karen Woo, surgeon, humanitarian in Afghanistan and Thomas Grams, dentist, humanitarian in Afghanistan.

To Miss Woo and Dr. Grams, a pause in Wikipedia editing in remembrance of you

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

SGGH, WGGH and WP:COI...

Your comment at ANI made me smile!

A similar thing happened to me recently: there's an editor called Slatersteven (talk · contribs), who I've worked with at various articles in the past (Slatersteven is British, I think, but that's not really important). Recently there was an incident in America: Steven Slater. I'd been watching the article for a while, and saw Slatersteven edit it. I posted this as a result ;-) TFOWR 20:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Funny! I was just being silly with SGGH and WGGH but WP editor Slatersteven be careful because we now know that he has skipped bail like Christopher Metsos did and has fled to the UK! he he hah ha Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 21:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Relax

I'm totally kidding/pretending! Keepscases (talk) 17:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been temporarily pretend blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 24 hours You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. This pretend block was a result of an interaction with Keepcases (see above). It begins in 1 minute at 0:00 UTC

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I respect your courtesy

I saw your note to A3RO. I'm not sure why another editor misconstrued it, but I thought it was very collegial of you to weigh in. I don't recall where I came across A3RO, but his block seems a bit strange. Hopefully it will get sorted out appropriately. I'm not familiar with how it all works other than that it all seems to be quite political. Anyway, enjoy the end of your summer and a healthy and prosperous fall. Freakshownerd (talk) 01:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Reflinks

is a great tool, but it fails too. For example, it does not expand most web redirects and links to files (pdf, images and some other formats) - this has to be completed manually. It often puts clutter into titles (mostly a publisher fault though), and it does not properly format the Google books links (puts truncated title, wrong publisher, and nothing else) - I myself prefer formatting google books refs manually as cleaning up after reflinks takes longer time. Materialscientist (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for GBU-53/B

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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WikiCup 2010 August newsletter

We have our final eight! The best of luck to those who remain. A bumper newsletter this week as we start our home straight.

• Pool A's winner was Sturmvogel_66 (submissions). Awarded the top score overall this round, Sturmvogel_66 writes primarily on military history, favouring Naval warfare.
• Pool B's winner was Casliber (submissions). Awarded the top score for featured articles this round, Casliber writes primarily on natural sciences, especially botany and ornithology.
• Pool A's close second was Sasata (submissions). Awarded the top score for featured pictures this round, Sasata writes primarily on natural sciences, favouring mycology.
• Pool B's close second was ThinkBlue (submissions). Awarded the top score for good articles and topics this round, ThinkBlue primarily writes content related to television and film, including 30 Rock.
• The first wildcard was TonyTheTiger (submissions). Awarded the top score for did you knows and valued pictures this round, TonyTheTiger writes on a number of topics, including baseball, American football and Chicago.
• The second wildcard was White Shadows (submissions). Someone who has helped the Cup behind the scenes all year, White Shadows said "I'm still in shock that I made it this far" and writes primarily on Naval warfare, especially U-boats.
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We say goodbye to the six who fell at the final hurdle. Geschichte (submissions) only just missed out on a place in the final eight. Resolute (submissions) was not far behind. Candlewicke (submissions) was awarded top points for in the news this round. Gary King (submissions) contributed a variety of did you know articles. Suomi Finland 2009 (submissions) said "I'm surprised to have survived so far into the competition", but was extactic to see Finland in the semi-finals. Arsenikk (submissions) did not score this round, but has scored highly in previous rounds. We also say goodbye to Ian Rose (submissions), who withdrew earlier this month after spending six weeks overseas. Anyone interested in this round's results can see them here and here. Thank you to Stone (submissions) for these.

Signups for next year's competition are now open. Planning is ongoing, with a key discussion about judges for next year open. Discussion about how next year's scoring will work is ongoing, and thoughts are more than welcome at Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring. Also, TonyTheTiger is compiling some information and statistics on the finalists here- the final eight are encouraged to add themselves to the list.

Our final eight will play it out for two months, after which we will know 2010's WikiCup winner, and a variety of prizes will be awarded. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 23:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Elaine Quijano

Materialscientist (talk) 00:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Taking leave

Ok, hope to see you again soon! J Milburn (talk) 21:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Idea for you.

You're absolutely right- Wikipedia has had run-ins with this before, and it remains an ongoing problem. Neutrality is one of the very core principles of Wikipedia- but there are people who will do what they can to subvert it. Stories about this kind of thing come up in the Signpost from time to time- ArbCom is normally dealing with something similar at any given moment. J Milburn (talk) 17:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)