Talk:Paul Klee

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This article was vandalized previously (everything was deleted and all it said was "poopie") so I rebuilt it. However, seeing as you know much more as I do on the subject matter, please edit it to return it to its former glory. Qmwne235 Thurs, 2 March 2006 11:22:25 -600

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Moved the most recent version to the Talk: page. It seems rather inferior to the previous version by Camambert. It can possibly be merged somehow in future though. Kpjas Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:35:20 +0100

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Paul Klee (1879-1940)

Paul Klee was born on the December 18 1879 in Münchenbuchsee near Bern. His father was organist and music teacher at the local school. His mother was said to be a gifted singer, who soon started to encourage her sons musical ambitions.

Klee became a good violinist and also showed an early talent for writing. After getting his school-leaving certificate, at the age of 19, Klee moved to Munich in the year of 1898, where he first started to learn at the private art school of Heinrich Knirr, a member of the Munich secession.
Later he studied at the academy as one of the students of the famous Franz von Stuck.

After his trip to Italy in the year 1901 he started his first independent works figured etchings. His stay in Milan, Genoa, Rome and Naples with its Mediterranean colours, its liveliness and also Italian architecture influenced Klee a lot.

In 1906 Klee married Lily Stumpf. The couple moved to Munich to exhibit his etchings at the secession. One year later their son Felix was born.
The following years Paul Klee went into works by Goya, William Blake and Aubrey Beardsley. Klee produced a number of black-white prints and drawings.
Artists like Cezanne, Matisse and especially Van Gogh had a lot of influence on him. In 1911 Klee joined the artists` group Der Blaue Reiter, together with Wassily Kandinsky, Gabriele Münter, Franz Marc, Alfred Kubin, Alexej Jawlensky, Marianne Werefkin and August Macke.
Paul Klee especially showed a lot of interest in childrens paintings and folk art.

He showed his works at the second exhibition of Der Blaue Reiter. On the 5th of April Klee left Germany to move to Tunisia. The oriental landscape, colours and clothes fascinated and influenced him.
During the first World War the painter found his friends spread all over Europe. On the 11th of March also Klee was called up. After the end of the war he moved back to Munich and started a lot of oil paintings.
On the 25th of November in 1920 Paul Klee got his calling for the builders house in Weimar. There he got his own studio and gave lectures in creation and shaping. Due to this job his estimation rose. Everywhere in Germany and also other countries Klee` s exhibitions of his works took place.
During the Twenties Klee wrote works about modern art and the basics of his teaching.
In December 1928 the artist again left Germany to move to Egypt which again influenced his paintings a lot.

In 1931 he started to work as art teacher at the academy of Düsseldorf. When Hitler came to power, Klee had to leave the country.
The exhibition Degenerate Art in 1937 included seventeen works by Paul Klee. He finally stayed in Bern, moved to Italy and France and met some of his old friends again. Paul Klee died in 1940 due to a skin disease.

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Drawing is just taking a pencil for a walk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.149.34 (talk • contribs) 20:39, October 17, 2005 (UTC)

scleroderma diagnosis

It appears sleroderma was not recognized as a disease until after his death: Paul Klee Centrum —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jwy (talk • contribs) 18:07, January 3, 2006 (UTC)

Jewish painter

In no source that I know of does he appear as a jewish painter. His father was german and his mother swiss. But I could be wrong, so I ask anyone to show me a source that proves that he was in fact jewish. User:Mistico

Klee's Heritage

I consider myself a relative authority on Klee, and within the 15 books on him I have in my library and various visits to his collections around the world, his heritage is always cited as German and Swiss. Never have I seen it listed as Jewish. He was Swiss and German. However, he does use the star of David in a number of paintings as a letimotif, and he was definitely an early enemy of the Nazis, having been forced to flee Germany before the infamous 1937 Nazi Degenerate Art Show. Though he was featured in this showing alongside many of his close Jewish friends, the show was not limited to Jewish artists, and included works by many groups of people the Nazi's wished to malign.

Thank you for rebuilding this page kpjas. Why on earth would someone erase the whole thing and write 'poopie'? a Nazi perhaps?!

Yes, maybe a Nazi.

==Klee Commenters==

I think Paul Klee is a very fine artist!

If i were to choose my favrite artist, it be Paul Klee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.234.165 (talk) 01:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC) he had a pet dog —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.247.45 (talk) 17:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Use of Quote

Klee's quote regarding his attempts to effectively use color ("a long struggle lies in store for me in this field of color”) is used twice in the article, in both the 'early life and training' and 'early career and marriage' sections. The first use is in relation to his trip to Italy (1901-1902), while the second appears to correspond with his early watercolor landscapes (both 1913). It also looks like it was taken from two different sources, as the first use has a 'that' included in the quotation marks (could just be someone's typing error though) and the second use has some more words attached to it. Using the quote twice is a bit boring, and creates confusion as to when it was actually said/written... can anyone find a source for the correct date/fix the article? Many thanks, an unregistered wiki enthusiast. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 21:54, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Heinrich Knirr?

...another thing. The article mentions Klee studying under someone named Heinrich Knirr. I'm currently doing a research type project on Paul Klee, and all of my print sources that deal with his childhood also mention Knirr, but most refer to him as "E. Knirr" (except one book, which spells out his first name as "Edwin"). Neither Edwin nor Heinrich Knirr have a wiki page to link to, and the information in the article now doesn't have a citation; so I'm not sure where "Heinrich Knirr" came from. It could simply be that Mr. Knirr sometimes went by his middle name or something, I'll try to look into it. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 02:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

okay, so after some basic google and wiki searching, it appears there were two Knirrs: Heinrich Knirr, a painter with a a private art school; and Erwin Knirr, a painter with a private art school. (I could find no Edwin Knirr, so that one print source of mine is probably wrong.) ...hrrmph. Heinrich was more of a "traditional/acceptable to the Nazi Party" kind of painter, so I suspect Klee studied with Erwin... but that's just a guess (and OR), so I don't know. I suppose I'll try to find a good source specifically saying who Klee studied with. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 02:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

meh, google scholar isn't being very helpful either. Klee's diary, which looked promising, only uses "Knirr," with no first name (it uses "Frau" a few times, but that's German for "Mister," right?). Some other results I glanced over mention Heinrich, Erwin, and "Hermann" as Knirr's first name. the plot thickens... and by 'thickens' I mean 'becomes exhasperating,' ugh. I think I'll just leave it as is for now and research more later; I need to finish writing about the rest of his education. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 02:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

frau is german for "woman" or "Mrs" so "Frau Knirr" would refer to a "Mrs Knirr",, (and Erwin is a male name).

Public Domain

Paul Klee died in june of 1940, more than 70 years ago. His works are on the public domain, aren't them? --174.36.199.203 (talk) 05:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

No. For one, all countries I know of round up to the end of the year, so his works won't be PD in the EU until 2011. Secondly, not all countries measure copyright the same way, and in the US, his works post-1922 will be copyright for 95 years from first publication.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks like someone has already uploaded a whole batch of Klee images to Commons. My vote is to ignore it for now rather than to have them deleted only to have to re-upload them 2 months later. Lithoderm 01:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)