Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket

Old A-Class reviews

Hi! Just letting you know that there are a few old and unclosed A-Class reviews:

• Australian cricket team in England in 1902 (Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Review/Australian cricket team in England in 1902)
• Philadelphian cricket team (Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Review/Philadelphian cricket team)
• History of United States cricket (Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Review/History of United States cricket)

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Article alerts#ACR. Thanks. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Given that this project is not particularly active in article reviewing, I would suggest that we close all of these reviews and discontinue the A-class review within WP Cricket. It works well for the large projects such as MilHist, but I just don't think we have the manpower to make it worthwhile. Harrias ^talk 19:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I've now acted upon my suggestion and closed all these reviews, and commented out the references to A-class review on that page. Harrias ^talk 21:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Match template have not attendance info

22 February 1992 Scorecard

New Zealand 248/6 (50 overs)	v	Australia 211 (48.1 overs)
Martin Crowe 100* (134) Craig McDermott 2/43 (10 overs)		David Boon 100 (133) Gavin Larsen 3/30 (10 overs)

New Zealand won by 37 runs Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand Umpires: Khizer Hayat and David Shepherd Player of the match: Martin Crowe

10 June 2006

15:00

England	1 – 0	Paraguay
Gamarra 3' (o.g.)	(Report)

FIFA WM Stadion Frankfurt, Frankfurt

Attendance: 48,000

Referee: Marco Rodríguez (Mexico)

Attendance is relevant enough to be there even if the response of some games in "attendance:not avaleable data", or big cricket games is played inside jails without public? tell me the thousands, 2,000 or 40,000? Also I am a foreing of this sport but 2011 Cricket World Cup say nothing about attendence--Feroang (talk) 07:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Attendance is not a common statistic recorded for cricket matches. The information is extremely hard to come by in reliable sources. – PeeJay 07:15, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't totally agree with that comment. A crowd attendance of 27,000 is quoted in Phil Wilkins match report published in the Sun-Herald 23 Feb 1992. I expect that at least match (indeed often daily) figures are known for the vast majority of first-class and Test matches played in Australia. I've often seen crowd figures quoted for matches in England too. RossRSmith (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

2011 Copa Sudamericana preliminary stages there are more football club games in a continental cup, attendance data is incomplete many times in south america and africa, but at least we try to find it, and the official source link in "report" help a lot, some link to the page of the national/continental/worldwide organization as source of some of the data wikipedia show (Conmebol is the CONfederation of southaMErican footBALL)--Feroang (talk) 16:59, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

What information should we take, though? Test/first-class matches are spread over multiple days. Should we take the figures for the first day? The last day? All days combined? How important is this information to an encyclopedia, anyway? You rarely hear the attendance figure for the day in most match reports, even if some will include it. Especially compared to football where the number's read out at half-time, cricket doesn't seem to consider it a particularly important stat. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 22:24, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Any ideas?

I'm writing up the article on David Macindoe, but I'm struggling to find information documenting his military service throughout WWII. I've got the start of it and end when he was awarded the Military Crosss and ended the war as a Major. I've search "David Henry Macindoe" and got a few results, likewise for "David H Macindoe", "D H Macindoe", "D Macindoe" and even those searches with different spellings of his surname. Any ideas how to find out more???? Surely there has to be more in the Gazette documenting his rise in the ranks! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't see much. He finished as vice-provost of Eton, having been a master there since 1949. Mil records suggest he started the war as a second lieutenant and finished it as a lieutenant, and his later rankings were something to do with his TA role as head of the Eton combined cadet force. So maybe his rise in the ranks wasn't that meteoric. Johnlp (talk) 13:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I've spent the last half hour looking, it does indeed seem as if his military career hasn't got as much coverage as a Military Cross winner might have! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 15:04, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps his was a rather secret war... Eton, Oxford, Artillery... Tinker, Tailor...? Johnlp (talk) 15:28, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Seems so! One final search and I think I'm about ready to give up... now for Inspector Brindley. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

On the military theme, Ronnie Aird seems to have quite a story - none of which is in his bio...[1] Hack (talk) 07:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Buckinghamshire cricketers

I have now created an article for every notable person to have played for Buckinghamshire - makes 242 244 notable players in total. Robert Shaw needs some expanding and I've left Donald Steel with the golfing folks, so once particularly Shaw is complete then I'll be done on that mini project. Dorset next....? AssociateAffiliate (talk) 21:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Do you plan to do Cheshire? I'm looking forward to seeing an article on one of my favourite South Australian/Cheshire players, the underrated Steve Wundke (sure, I suppose I could write it myself but where's the fun in that?) --Roisterer (talk) 10:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I intend to do all the Minor counties! I was going to create one for Wundke a few weeks back as he's a List A player on Bobo's lists, I got lazy and ended up not creating the article! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 12:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Capitalisation and grammar questions

Hi. I just moved Tasmanian Tigers List A records to Tasmania cricket team List A records per the parent article, Tasmania cricket team, being renamed. So, I have two questions: should it be "List A" or "list A"? Our article, List A cricket, varies between the two. And secondly, is the new title grammatically correct? For some reason it feels a little off to me, but *shrug* maybe that's just me. If it is ungrammatical, then a new proposed title would be appreciated. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 07:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

The title seems OK to me. I think it should be "List A" rather than "list A". I think that when I've seen the term used outside of Wikipedia it's usually been spelt with a capital L. JH (talk page) 08:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I've always used "List A". There's plenty of articles which have "test" instead of "Test" which I'm always correcting when I come across them. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:30, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. I'll leave the article where it is. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 10:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Cricket grounds in Windhoek

It's actually cricket grounds in Namibia, but all the notable grounds are in Windhoek! Does anyone know if the Defence Force Ground[2] is still in use and where it is in Windhoek? Does anyone know where the Trans Namib Ground aka Centre for Cricket Development Ground[3] is located in the city??? AssociateAffiliate (talk) 11:12, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Featured list candidate: List of centuries in women's Test cricket

Comments welcome at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of centuries in women's Test cricket/archive1. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 10:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

• Comments welcome and needed :) —SpacemanSpiff 14:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Also at List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Shane Warne sitting at WP:FLC! The Rambling Man (talk) 14:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

List of international players whose articles need expanding

Some time back someone was kind enough to post a list of international players who only had article stubs and a mathematical equation to show the importance of each player and thus whose article needed the most attention. Does anyone know if the page is still around? --Roisterer (talk) 15:44, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Looking, I just came across what looks like an outdated to do list. Wasn't there though, but that could do with some updating or what not. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 17:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

It's at User:CricketBot/stubs and it's pretty out of date... though there are still plenty of articles that need expanding. There was another one called "substubs" after the oblique, but I think that one's been amalgamated into this one. User:Stephen Turner used to update them. Johnlp (talk) 21:17, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

They're back!!!

Seems User:BlackJack's stalker has reappeared as 86.156.42.158, also see the above the comment on this talk page which was made by the same IP. Their focus seems to be on "major cricket", which given this recent AfD of the "major cricket" article, and the similar writing style in it by one user makes me think the IP is linked to the AfD nominator? The IP has contacted me on my talk page and resorted to ad hominem, which I have to admit I have retorted to with foul language. I however don't see why I should assume good faith or etiquette, when the stalker hounded a good member of this project off the site, as well as harrassing other project members, all the while they flaunt WP:POINT. From now on I shall ignore all messages from this a-hole. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Wikipedia:Deny recognition. Moondyne (talk) 00:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Even though blackjack has gone his fiefdom lives on. This project is a disgrace.Associatafiliate - a sockpuppet himself should resign as he intended himslf but again he goes mental with foul language and rude handsigns. see his page for evidence,. Who is moondyne Your english grounds is a bad joke. We used to laugh at you but now it is too silly for words. Wise up.Yours ATillman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.166.214 (talk) 19:07, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Third Man Redirect

So, if you search "third man" it redirects here. I suggest a better place for this redirect might be here... --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 02:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Nope fine where it is. Mtking ^(edits) 03:10, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Are you going to give a reason? --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 03:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm with the professor on this. The primary usage of this outside of cricket circles is going to be the film. I know it's not entirely scientific but a google search for "third man" + movie comes up with over five million hits while "third man" + cricket only returns about 500k results. Hack (talk) 03:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

At first glance, I agreed with Mtking, but having a look at gbooks shows that the film is very well known (more so than the cricket term). Perhaps Third man should be turned into a disambiguation page, listing the fielding position, the film and Third man argument? Jenks24 (talk) 04:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

That seems reasonable and also ensure that Third man (cricket) is also created. And a hat note from the film would also be good. —SpacemanSpiff 05:06, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know the film is more of an "artsy" film, and reasonably highly regarded. But I don't know too much about cricket, so just figured that because "Third man" was only mentioned in the fielding article once under a smaller heading, I figured it should be okay to change the redirect... --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 09:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

We already have Third Man (disambiguation), no need for another dab page. Redirect it there, perhaps? Or, indeed, move that page over the redirect? Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 10:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think redirecting to the Third Man film page is better (you can then follow the link to the disambiguation page), but I guess I'm okay with redirecting straight to the disambiguation page. By the way, this is also being discussed here, and they've basically reached the same conclusion. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 10:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok, well this has got a bit confusing. Third Man still redirects to Fielding (cricket), but Third man now redirects to The Third Man. There is no clear primary topic. If the film was called simply "Third Man", then I would agree it is, but it's not, it's called "The Third Man" and all sources (and therefore most people searching for it) will include "the". Therefore, my suggestion is this: get an admin to move Third Man (disambiguation) to Third Man (which is what should be done when there's no clear primary topic). Then redirect Third man to Third Man – one capital letter is not enough of a distinction for people searching. Does that seem ok with everyone else? Jenks24 (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Len Hutton

I have created Len Hutton as England captain from some of the vast amounts of material available on Len Hutton. A nice person has prodded it and I haven't the inclination to argue; if anyone else feels like taking up the case either way, feel free as I probably won't get involved. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the PROD. As noted on the talk page, if it now gets taken to AfD I shall oppose its deletion there too. Johnlp (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Humour!

From the Blackwood Town Cricket Club article I've PRODed.

"On the other hand, Neil Reardon, Club legend, holds a rather more impressive record. He was recently forcibly removed from a Wetherspoons pub for slurring. Thrown from the pub of choice of tramps. For slurring. An achievement of which we'd all be proud."

Most unencyclopedic humourous nonsense I've seen on here! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 22:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Apparantly the captain of Elsecar Cricket Club is something I can do a good impression of! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 14:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

"Major cricket" redirect

Would anyone have a problem if we redirected "major cricket" to this section on the project page? Basically just to provide some explanation for the use of the term, which is linked to in 300+ articles, all of which are redlinks now. IgnorantArmies^?! 09:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Thought that cross name space links/redirects were to be avoided as per WP:CROSS (Currently, the general consensus seems to be that newly created cross-namespace redirects from the main (article) namespace to the Wikipedia: (project) namespace should be deleted). Mtking ^(edits) 09:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

For now I'd suggest we redirect it to Forms of cricket as that seems to be the most reasonable mainspace target. —SpacemanSpiff 10:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I think that's pretty reasonable – at least, better than having hundreds of redlinks. IgnorantArmies^?! 10:59, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism or a late bloomer?

According to the Titans cricket team page the Titans have a 37 year old keeper called Aslam Hafeji for whom no record exists on cricinfo or cricketarchive. I'm assuming this is vandalism but I don't know enough about South African cricket to be sure. Hack (talk) 03:16, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I can find absolutely nothing on him. Regardless of whether it's true, It fails WP:V and so should be removed. And given that the top three results for Aslam Hafeji cricket are Wikipedia, Wikipedia and a Wikipedia mirror, I doubt it's true. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 07:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

In fact, it was just long-standing vandalism: [4]. The player who was removed is on the two sources, so a revert and done. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 07:15, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I knew it was too good to be true... Hack (talk) 02:31, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Hampshire first professional captain

My mind has got in a muddle! Was Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie the first professional captain, or was it Roy Marshall? It'll come to me later, unless someone can put me out my misery first! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 19:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

The distinction between amateur and professional in English cricket was abolished at the end of the 1962 season, and as Ingleby-Mackenzie remained as Hampshire captain until the end of 1965 he's the last amateur and first professional, though whether he ever took any money is another matter entirely. You might say that Desmond Eagar, who was captain and secretary up to the end of 1957, was an example of the "shamateurism" that was rife after the Second World War, though Eagar was so wholehearted in both his on- and off-field roles that no one ever raised any questions about his status, even when others (eg Peter Richardson, Trevor Bailey) were being queried. Johnlp (talk) 19:54, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I think it depends if you mean official captain. I'm sure Phil Mead and possibly Alec Kennedy captained them at times in the 1930s but I don't think either was an official appointment. --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I think John has answered it for me. It was the amatuer and professional destinction which was giving me a headache as his captaincy overlapped them. Thanks John. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

A search on CricketArchive revealed that Mead did indeed captain Hampshire in a number of matches, as many as 12 of them being during the 1933 season, when the official captain presumably had a long-term injury. JH (talk page) 21:15, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Wisden's review of the 1933 Hampshire season in the 1934 edition says: "Illness overtook Lord Tennyson, who played in only three games, and with no other amateur regularly available, Hampshire, during the season, had as many as seven different captains. Generally the leadership fell upon Mead, but at various times the team was led by A. K. Judd, Rev. G. L. O. Jessop, J. P. Parker, Brown and Kennedy." Johnlp (talk) 21:31, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the information :-) AssociateAffiliate (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

See hampshire Cricketers published by ACS for answers to all qestions of this sort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.166.214 (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

Talk:List of works by cricket historians and writers#Requested move. Moondyne (talk) 16:38, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

BLP & Aboriginality

I've touched on this before but on page 176 in the book "Black Gold: The Aboriginal and Islander sports hall of fame", the authors, listing major Indigenous cricketers, writes that in the 1960s there was "King ... and a former national player who has no wish to be identified". The player the authors are referring to is Grahame Thomas.

It would seem an important point to have in his article but would this break any BLP rules? --Roisterer (talk) 06:45, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I've found a reference (8mb) in the Koori Mail (a national Aboriginal newspaper) from 1991 to him being the last Aboriginal Test cricketer. The article is apparently a reprint of an article from The Age. The problem to me is that if he doesn't want to be identified as being of Indigenous origin (if indeed he is), we shouldn't be including this information... Hack (talk) 08:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

His Cricinfo profile refers to him as "part American-Indian". Which is not the same thing at all. Johnlp (talk) 08:22, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

This may or may not be relevant but, particularly in the past, some Australians invented exotic backgrounds to hide their Indigenous ancestry (eg Sally Morgan). Despite all of this, I think the most important issue is the verifiability of this information. Hack (talk) 08:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

As I understand it, Thomas didn't want to be known as Aboriginal at the time of his playing career because he thought it would hinder his career and since then he decided to keep quiet about it. --Roisterer (talk) 14:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't put it in unless there was a significant, non-biased source that had it – one of the national newspapers or Cricinfo, for instance. IgnorantArmies^?! 08:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

And the piece on Dizzy in The Sydney Morning Herald contradicts this too, as it says of Gillespie -- "...given his standing as the only known indigenous player to have worn the baggy green." I'd stay away from including this based on the book. —SpacemanSpiff 12:41, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Lancashire club cricket

Having a look at some information on Arthur Mold, I noticed that in 1888 and 1889, he played three matches AGAINST Burnley, playing for Enfield, Skipton and Nelson. In all three games, he played as a professional. As the Lancashire League did not exist, would these matches have been competitive, friendly or what? And as Mold was playing against the same team each time, was he paid by Burnley to make up the numbers of other teams? This one has confused me a bit, so if anyone knows anything about Lancashire club cricket at this time (and even better, can source it!), I would be grateful. --Sarastro1 (talk) 23:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I have John Kay's book on League cricket, but it concentrates mostly on the great players he saw in the inter-war and immediate post-Second World War periods, and is pretty sketchy on the history beforehand. The Lancashire League was formed (as the North-East Lancashire Cricket League) in October 1890, with its first season of matches in 1892: Burnley, Enfield and Nelson were founding members. Johnlp (talk) 07:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I found this Wisden article from 1892, which unfortunately doesn't help with that question but may provide some other useful info for the Wikipedia article (such as explaining why he was in Lancashire that year). I also found Burnley Cricket Club's own website, but it doesn't help. JH (talk page) 09:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

It isn't perhaps surprising that Burnley CC might be a little less than enthusiastic about advertising their role in bringing Mold forward to greater prominence! Sydney Pardon was uncharacteristically caustic in the obit in Wisden 1922 here. Johnlp (talk) 12:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! There's a few bits in the Times as well, but nothing that really explains the Burnley connection. My guess would be that he was a Burnley player and they farmed him out, but there is no way of knowing. Re the Wisden obit, there is an even more scathing one in the Times which I think may also have been written by SHP. My favourite line is "He was a deadly fast bowler, but, all through his career, even his best feats in the cricket field were spoken of with something of apology." --Sarastro1 (talk) 17:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I wonder if Mold's action got worse over the years, as Pardon presumably didn't see anything wrong with it in 1892, when he selected Mold as one of "Five Great Bowlers" (the feature that eventually became "Five Cricketers of the Year" of course). JH (talk page) 18:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

All the retrospective stuff in 1901 and when he died claims that everyone always knew he threw. Apparently. And it's worth looking at the footage of him bowling in 1901. Despite the commentary, his action doesn't look that bad, and it was taken during the 1901 match at which he was called. But it is a suspiciously short run-up and not the most dynamic of performances, so maybe he was trying a bit harder than usual to keep his elbow straight? --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

The video's over 100 years old, is there any chance we could use it or does the modern cleanup renew the copyright? Nev1 (talk) 19:27, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure as someone seems to be selling the film and it may now belong to the BFI. And as it's on Youtube, I'm dubious. However, others may have a better idea how it works. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

If no one else can provide an answer I think it would be worth sending an email to the British Film Institute. There's no harm in asking and footage of Mold bowling and A. N. Hornby batting would be invaluable to their respective articles, not to mention the footage of Old Trafford. Nev1 (talk) 19:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Be awesome if the footage could go on the relevant articles. I'd have probably no-balled him as well! Guess I'd be less than popular... AssociateAffiliate (talk) 21:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Here is a link to an interview with Mold in an unnamed paper in about 1901 which suggests he was on the Lancashire staff (or the "Manchester club") from 1887: in which case he was probably loaned out for club matches as he was not qualified to play county games until he qualified by residence. Here from the same family website are some details of his background. Johnlp (talk) 22:20, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I saw that, but unfortunately it does not give the source of the newspaper and would certainly not pass at WP:RS. Pity, for that would make sense; it may be that CricketArchive only has scores for Burnley matches, and the connection is not a real one.--Sarastro1 (talk) 22:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You could email the chap in New Zealand who runs the Mold family website? Johnlp (talk) 22:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Good idea, I'll do that. You never know. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Template:crw

Can anyone in the know help with this? I'd like to have International XI women's cricket team and Young England women's cricket team added as an option. They both had WODI status. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Justin Kemp

An IP keeps changing stats on this page for no obvious reason. Might be worth keeping an eye on it. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Denis Compton

If anyone fancies working up a decent lead for Denis' article, that'd be great. --Dweller (talk) 12:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Beyond me....

...why this doesn't qualify for speedy deletion. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 14:08, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Impersonation attempt?

Something funny may be going on, so I thought I should warn people. Not long ago I received the following email, which seemed to be genuine:

To: Jhall1 <john@xxxxx.co.uk>
Subject: New temporary password for Wikipedia
From: MediaWiki Mail <wiki@wikimedia.org>
Date: 22 September 2011 20:28:05

Someone from the IP address 65.13.195.162 requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.

The new password for the user account "Jhall1" is "*****". You can now log in to Wikipedia using that password.

If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you.

The person at 65.13.195.162 was not me. Maybe they genuinely made a mistake when telling Wikipedia their username and gave mine by accident. Or maybe they were hoping to be able to use the new password to impersonate me. I imagine that wouldn't have worked, as the email giving the new password should only have gone to me. In any case I didn't take any chances, and immediately went to my preferences and reset my password to something different. Putting the password that Wikipedia had emailed me into the "Old password" field worked, confirming that the email was genuine.

I thought that I should warn people in case it is some evildoer targetting people on this project. I've also emailed Wikipedia to let them know about it. JH (talk page) 20:19, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm.... suspected it might have been Daft as he's been active of late in abusing project members, but I looked at the sockpuppet archive for Daft and the recent (and previous IPs) used by him all begin in 80-something. Not annoyed anyone in Fayetteville of late??? That's where a tracking site says the IP originates from. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

The tracking site that I tried reckoned that address belonged to the ISP BellSouth.net Inc. I suppose that they could be based in Fayetteville. A traceroute to that particular IP address suggested that the person using it is somewhere in the New York region, judging by the names of the machines the query passed through en route. JH (talk page) 20:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

This has happened to me a few times over the years, and I've assumed it was someone random trying it on or a genuine attempt by someone to register using the name I already have. The security setting, which requires you to confirm a password change and ignores the change if you don't confirm, seems to work, so I wouldn't worry. I'm sure it would be nothing to do with any of our current critics, internal or external. Johnlp (talk) 08:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The possibility that it was someone trying to register as jhall1, not realising that it was already taken, hadn't occurred to me. JH (talk page) 09:19, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes; Height and Weight

FYI -- readers of this page may be interested in the discussion and poll here as to whether a baseball player's height and weight should be reflected in his wp infobox.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:17, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

James Taylor (cricketer, born 1990)

I've carried out a good article review on this article: Talk:James Taylor (cricketer, born 1990)/GA1, which was nominated by User:Joesayers before he retired from the site. At the moment, although the content is there, the prose is letting it down: would anyone be willing to take this article over to try and get it up to standard in the next few weeks? I'm willing to provide a more detailled review for anyone who wants to help, but if not, I'll fail the article at the end of the hold period in a week's time. Harrias ^talk 16:54, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Nawab of Pataudi

Hi,

If anyone has a few minutes, Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi, Nawab of Pataudi Jr, could do with a new infobox. Noticed it after his death recently. Think there was an obit in one of the broadsheets today (DT I think).—User:MDCollins (talk) 22:54, 24 September 2011 (UTC)