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Camp David

I think this is an excellent page, managing to stay as neutral and balanced as is possible. I question the neutrality of this section, however:

'At Camp David, for example, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered Yasser Arafat an opportunity to establish an independent Palestinian State composed of 92% of the West Bank, Arab neighborhood of East Jerusalem, and the entire Gaza Strip and dismantling of most settlements. Yasser Arafat rejected the proposal without providing a counter-offer. A subsequent settlement proposed by President Clinton offered Palestinian sovereignty over 94 to 96 percent of the West Bank but was similarly rejected.[139][140][141][142][unreliable source?][18]'

1) The sources are clearly not neutral, even if what is written is true 2) It should be made clear that there was never a concrete 'proposal' but rather take-it-or-leave it "bases" for further negotiation, rejected by Arafat 2) I think there needs to be a sentence on the possible justifications for rejecting the offers. 3) This is a very detailed article about the negotations that seems more reliable/neutral than the sources currently used: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2001/aug/09/camp-david-the-tragedy-of-errors/?pagination=false

I'm hesitant to edit it myself on such a controversial issue and would be keen to see if others agree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.107.219 (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Using the words "terrorism", "terrorist" and "terror"

Careful using the words "terrorism", "terrorist" and "terror", these words tend to obscure the true motives and attributes of the attacker. Keep in mind that many Palestinian rebels see Israelis as criminal occupiers of stolen land. A terror attack implies that innocent people are being harmed, however Attackers do not normally recognize their victims as being innocent, and have some reason for killing them. Keep in mind that Palestinian fighters have less access to expensive, precision technology and strategies, and so could wind up killing more civilians unintentionally. For instance, describing the 9/11 Jet Airliner attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a "terrorist attack" obscures the strategic value of attacking such targets, as well as obscures that the attackers may not have had access to expensive, precision technology.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Miona152 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LABEL is the guideline that governs the use of such terms. If you see instances that look inconsistent with that guidelines please fix them or raise the issue on the article talk page. Sean.hoyland - talk 11:48, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fighting age males

the article mentions that most of the casualties on the Palestinian side are FAM's anyone care to find out what that means for the Israeli army? as it varies by country and conflict greatly without more information this "addition" is useless a FAM can be from 8-80 or 18-35 a reference would be nice as this isn't supposed to be a place to speculate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.68.252 (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More sources needed

I've tagged the article as needing more references. The lack of sources is evident in the ″History″ section, but the entire page needs more referencing. I'll try to add more references in the future, time permitting.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the term "genocide"

It is often said that Israel commits or has committed genocide against the Palestinians. I noticed that the term "genocide" does not occur once in the article. I do not mean to assert that "genocide" did or did not occur, but I think the article should mention the debate surrounding the appropriateness of the term. I would like to make this edit in the future, if I get around to it. It would be my first major edit to a Wikipedia article and I know that this is a very high-profile article, so perhaps a more experienced editor could make the changes. macscam (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 I've tagged the article as needing more references. The lack of sources is evident in the ″History″ section, but the entire page needs more referencing. I'll try to add more references in the future, time permitting.--'''[[User:Jetstreamer|Jetstreamer]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Jetstreamer#top|Talk]]</sup> 17:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
+== Regarding the term "genocide" ==
+It is often said that Israel commits or has committed genocide against the Palestinians. I noticed that the term "genocide" does not occur once in the article. I do not mean to assert that "genocide" did or did not occur, but I think the article should mention the debate surrounding the appropriateness of the term. I would like to make this edit in the future, if I get around to it. It would be my first major edit to a Wikipedia article and I know that this is a very high-profile article, so perhaps a more experienced editor could make the changes.  [[User:Macscam|macscam]] ([[User talk:Macscam|talk]]) 22:28, 18 March 2013 (UTC)