User talk:Spinningspark/Archive 17

Murphy's law

I appreciate you may have a difference of opinion but simply removing information that other people have put on a wiki, when accurate, isn't exactly in the spirit of the site.

The Fortean Times Book of Strange Deaths should be included as an example. I suggest you read it, then please consider revising.

The Mathematical explanation of Murphys law is pretty weak, anyone familiar with large numbers (or prime numbers like yourself) knows this is a blanket statement and not totally accurate. We should not be feeding information that's not quite the truth. Please consider revising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.92.204 (talk) 07:15, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I guess you are talking about the two edits you made to Murphy's law. I suggest you read our verifiability policy before making any more edits (or complaints). Both your edits were uncited and revereting them is not against the spirit of the site, quite the opposite. Any editor is entitled to remove uncited material and I had good reasons for reverting both edits.

I do not need to read the Fortean Times book if the statement in your edit is correct. The book is not explicitly discussing Murphy's law. It is therefore your opinion that the examples are about Murphy's law, not Wikipedia's opinion. Wikipedia is supposed not to have opinions of its own. You especially cannot say, in Wikipedia's voice, that the book is funnier than Bloch's book.

Your other edit is even more problematic. You inserted your uncited opinion into cited text giving the false impression that what you are saying can be found in the source. Even worse than that, you edited a direct quotation. That might be what De Morgan should have said, but it is not he did say. One minor point, we do not give any indication within the article of the editing process or who is making the edits as your word "EDIT:" does. If the statements can be found in reliable sources then it can be said with Wikipedia's voice, or at least attributed to the source, if it cannot be so found, then it does not belong on Wikipedia at all.

I appreciate that Murphy's law is "not totally accurate", in fact you could have omitted the word "totally", and I would be surprised if that needs pointing out to anyone. It is not really a law, it is just an epigram. If no one has explicitly said that in sources because they think it obvious, then there is no need for Wikipedia to state the obvious either. SpinningSpark 09:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

The merge of the content of Greater Romania (political concept) into the article Greater Romania

Hello! Immediately after you gave the verdict the Afd discussion, some editors started modifying Greater Romania article, without any a priori discussion on the talk page. Is that right? Shouldn't a consensus be reached first between the participants of the Afd discussion in order to decide how the merge should effectively be done? Avpop (talk) 22:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with that per se, editors are entitled to be bold. It might have been better to discuss first, but there is not requirement to do so. However, the actions on that page are currently developing in to an edit war. The result of that is likely to be that the page gets locked. Is that what you want to happen? SpinningSpark 23:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I contested User:Fakirbakir's additions on the talk page, but he does not follow the dispute resolution process and reinserts the removed elements despite not having a consensus. Avpop (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it is reasonable for you to demand that all changes to the article are discussed first. I find this reversion particularly problematic with the edit summary "too many undiscussed changes". If you have a good reason for reverting that is one thing, but not simply because it is too difficult for you to take in at once. A solid, policy-based reason should be given. If you want to complain about the behaviour of another editor then it is usual to provide diffs of the perceived problematic behaviour rather than expect me to work it out for myself from the history. In any case, I will speak to Fakirbakir on their talk page, but I think you would all be better off discussing the issues than fretting over whose version of the page should be the status quo in the meantime. SpinningSpark 12:00, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

"Does not follow the dispute resolution process" ???? Who deleted sourced text, repeatedly? I can tell you it was not me.Anonimu created an excellent merge (It is far more logical than my previous trying), but User:Avpop did not like it. Fakirbakir (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

It is irrrelevant whether or not the passage was sourced (unless it was deleted for being unsourced), it is irrelevant whose version is better, and it is irrelevant who is right. Edit warring is not permitted. Period. Blocks will start being handed out for those that continue to do it. SpinningSpark 12:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

The article of "Greater Romania (political concept)" was my idea. I got plenty of accusations that my page was rubbish. I became worried about its future. Fakirbakir (talk) 12:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Grahamatwp's section

Was wondering why you are reverting my edits rather than modifying them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grahamatwp (talk • contribs) 10:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I have not modified them because they cannot easily be modified into something useful. Completely replaced with something else perhaps, but not modified. I suggest that you use a good textbook as a basis for your future electronics edits rather than rely on your own limited understanding. SpinningSpark 11:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I think you are not considering the level of knowledge in my edits are not reflecting my understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grahamatwp (talk • contribs) 12:21, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

updated command base page

SO I updated the operation for common base.

If you disagree I suggest you improve it, but I think it's important to have a simple explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grahamatwp (talk • contribs) 12:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Geology and Genesis

Well, the insistence that Genesis 1-11 are truth is not so much "ignorance" in the usual sense as "willful ignorance". (I consider Genesis 1-11 to be a myth, and Genesis 12-50 to be a legend, based partly on non-written narratives of reality and partly on changes in oral transmission.) However, as you say, using the geological terms for the antediluvian lineage shows that the editor didn't notice the inconsistency. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:08, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I was using the Genesis narrative as genealogical data. Ancient genealogical data contains a combination of historically valid information and of myth or legend, but it should reflect accurately what is in the sources of mixed validity. It follows a different standard of reliability of sources than does Wikipedia. Wikipedia should accurately report what reliable secondary sources have said about myths, legends, and beliefs. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:08, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Did you post this to try and change my opinion (sorry, you're out of luck on that one) or to inform me of Wikipedia policy (thanks, but I already know)? SpinningSpark 17:16, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Neither. I think that we agree that treating the Genesis narrative as fact is WP:FRINGE. I was stating the opinion that belief in the Genesis narrative as fact is not "ignorance" in the usual sense but "willful ignorance". I was also agreeing with your apparent amusement that the use of geological terms for colors associated with the implausible ages of the patriarchs is weird. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Date changers!

Hi, we exchanged info some time ago and you told me to contact you if I came across a serial date changer again. Well I think I have! - 87.112.78.12. This user and another with a similar IP address have recently begun to make changes such as those made to e.g. Staatsgalerie Stuttgart. Regards Denisarona (talk) 20:12, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

The 87.113 IP seems to have stopped after you warned them. I have blocked the 87.112 IP temp and protected the article. I can't see any sign of this being any more widespread even after looking at the entire IP range, but I will do a range block if it becomes necessary. Keep me informed if you see any more of this. SpinningSpark 23:47, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick action. I keep a look-out as usual. Regards Denisarona (talk) 09:50, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, have just chanced upon another date changer - User:Smokestack Basilisk. Regards Denisarona (talk) 11:15, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by that comment, I am attempting to standardize date formats in articles where there is already a defined format that should be used. Smokestack Basilisk (talk) 11:17, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

In that case, I would suggest that you explain what you are doing in your edit summaries. It is always good practice to leave an edit summary. It prevents your edit being misunderstood and it allows editors to decide from their watchlists whether they want to bother to click on your edit. By the way, I'm not sure that you should be updating the date in the "use date format" template. The datestamp is a record of when the date format was first established. SpinningSpark 12:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

IGNORE - I'm wrong. Regards Denisarona (talk) 11:26, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Any opinion on this page?

As you are active in deleting unnecessary pages, I got this issue for you, Doc PenPen B. Takipsilim. This page is pretty hard to decide, it has content and sources, though they are badly constructed. What can be done about it? It is made by the person himself, because the username is similar to the page title. OccultZone (Talk) 07:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

I sent it to AFD. Let the community decide. It definitely does not qualify for any of the speedy deletion criteria so it can't be dealt with by administrator action. SpinningSpark 07:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Author recently blanked the page. So I added a prod tag.[1] I would've ignored it, but I don't know if blanking can be ignored, at least when the page is newly created. OccultZone (Talk) 08:33, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedi talk: Articles for creation/user:GreenLips/Sandbox

Hi Spinningspark. Thanks for yours. Greenlips is my account, however, my wife is a graphic artist and helped me figure out the formatting issues. It's one account, one user - me. My wife helps me with the stuff she's good at. She's not posting or editing, only trying to help me understand some of the lingo used by Wiki. Thanks. GreenLips (talk) 19:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Ok, fine, if you can live with that user name, so can I. SpinningSpark 19:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

SVG

You should not give up on uploading SVG source too soon. As for the actual creation of SVG file, all of my diagrammatic maps (yes, I'm showing off my own works. Boo if you want) are written entirely in XML editor. I just load the SVG file to my browser in the same time and refresh it every time I made some major modification in XML editor and need a preview. This is a lot safer than just using Inkscape. Even for geographical map, I only use Inkscape to create the irregular path and then copy and paste the path data into the separate XML editor. (Besides, the build-in "XML editor" of Inkscape is very buggy too). I hate SVG file saved by Inkscape for tons of useless "Sodipodi" remnant attributes. There is also a long list of major bugs of Inkscape not yet resolved for year which really tarnishes its reliability. All in all, your file:Mechanical filter resonator modes.svg falls into my "diagrammatic" category and I wouldn't find any difficulty to write it in XML editor from scratch. It may just take some more time but a lot safer and smaller. As for my latest revision of this SVG, there is still room to make the code more compact like sharing the linear gradient definitions, objects and CSS classes. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 07:02, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia User Page

Hi SpinningSpark.

As per your suggestion I have requested the change in user name. Also you have deleted the my user page on the basis of promotion. Kindly allow me to use that as my user page. If you think it is being used for promotion please suggest me which part is looking like a promotion, I will get it edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcbapc (talk • contribs) 12:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

@Shailesh Patel at APC: basically, all of it was promotion. You are allowed to declare that you work for, or are associated with a company. In fact, we appreciate editors with a conflict of interest declaring their affiliations. You may even include a link to the company website. However, extensive information about a company or its products is not permitted at all. Your userspace is provided for the purpose of helping to build the encyclopaedia and that should be the focus of information on the page. We are quite relaxed about what people include and the space is not rigidly policed, but promotion is one thing that will not be tolerated. SpinningSpark 13:27, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

@Spinningspark: Actually I have taken reference from this user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionbridge. For avoiding advertisement I didn't give any reference. Can I use that content as a wiki page?

@Shailesh Patel at APC: You don't need to ping me on my own user talk page, there is an automatic alert. In fact, in my particular case, I watchlist all the pages I comment on (at least for a while) so you only need to ping me in a converstation I have not been taking part in. Also, please learn how to use indents.

Do you mean that you want to turn the information that was on your user page into a Wikipedia article? The answer is only if your company meets out notability guidelines, in particular WP:NCORP. As a COI editor you should not directly create such an article in any case. Please use the Articles for creation process. By the way, you would be ill-advised to take random articles as a template. Wikipedia has millions of articles and not all have been reviewed. Our very best articles are listed at WP:Featured articles and have all been through extensive reviews. If you are going to copy anything, copy something from there, you will note that there are only a total of four articles on companies. SpinningSpark 14:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Note

Here's one:[2] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Another one:[3] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I've blocked the IP that was just now causing a mess. Does this guy have a history of IP-hopping, or can we assume that there won't be more of this while the block lasts? Unlike you, I prefer to get a talkback. Nyttend (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

@Nyttend: He's IP hopping big time over a huge range. I've reprotected the ref desks as a temporary measure. I've done quite a few range blocks as well but they are ineffective. I'm thinking we need to nail this one with an edit filter. SpinningSpark 00:03, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, that's what I guessed, but I wanted to check. Thanks for the response! By the way, you have to add your signature and the link to my userpage in the same edit; the edit to fix {{ping:Nyttend}} didn't trigger the notification. Nyttend (talk) 00:42, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for re-protecting. It was quiet for a couple of days, and then the guy really went berserk today, well beyond his typical M.O. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

When the protection was on a few days ago, the guy (assuming it's the same one) was seemingly hijacking IP addresses from literally all over the map, as with this guy. His technique was to create a series of updates, each with a different IP, then use his newly-created ID to revert those updates, thus achieving confirmation so he could edit the semi'd pages. It looks like whatever he's doing, he's figured out a way to connect as any random IP he wants to. A lot of them seem to emanate from Venezuela, but that could just be one item in his collection of tricks. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Carllica4 is obviously another sock. Same pattern, and also vandalized the ref desk. Katie R (talk) 12:13, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, again using and then reverting random IP's around the world in order to get autoconfirmed. This revival of a four-year-old account is an opportunity for checkusers to maybe figure out who that guy really is and put a stop to its activities. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:27, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

It would be interesting to check the log for June 7, 2010 around 13:31, and see if there are any other sleepers from when that user ID was created. I think I used to know how to do that, but I don't recall now. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:34, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

When you've remembered, then you can let me know what the results were. SpinningSpark 16:33, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Oy! Too much work, at least for now. But thanks for letting me know. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:40, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

On Microelectromechanical systems

You really wasted your time. That top section is an overkill and will be deleted by someone else in the future, if not sooner. I'm not wasting my time reverting it. -Good Luck meatclerk (talk) 06:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

It won't be deleted, maybe rewritten, but not deleted. See MOS:LEAD, the lead "should define the topic" and the article name should be displayed in bold. The paragraph you deleted was doing both of those. Your edit summary gave no indication why you had removed it. You were apparently addressing disambiguation issues so as far as I knew you had removed it accidentally. SpinningSpark 10:19, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

The "Moyu" Guy

Ok, so I guess that i shall not edit the article at all. Believe me though, the article is pretty misleading to many. If I am a Moyu guy, why would I mention fangshi/dayan's name? Also, moyu is a legit company and does not violae any patents until now! At least the 13x13x13 can be mentioned, forget the v-cube bias.

Zhao/ My misleading username :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMoyuGuy (talk • contribs) 13:08, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry

Hello again.

Sorry if I vandalised the Rubik's cube article.

Now, I want you to understand that I am not associated with moyu in any way. All I wanted to do was update the content and avoid bias. My mistake probably was the link, (I'm new, I am not an expert) but there are videos on youtube with multiple thousand views, forums and other information that a 13x13x13 exists and does not violate patent laws.

Now, if you don't believe that I am not moyu, why don't you see easy-to-spot text like 6x6x6 (V-CUBE 6)? Isn't that promotional? why couldn't it be called 6x6x6, what was the need to mention the company? And on the article, it says that the record was broken by a Shengshou 6x6x6, which is, of course, a copy that has violated V-CUBE patents. Also, cube which are said to be 'illegal' and 'Chinese' are not confirmed illegal by government, there is still controversy. And even for the 4x4 and 5x5 cubes, there are many other companies legally producing them, even V-CUBES. But why say 'Rubik's Revenge' and 'Professor Cube'? Thats promoting the viewers to buy Rubik's brand, they'll think it is the only brand, same for the 6x6x6 and 7x7x7.

the moyu 13x13x13 is not 'non-licensed'. it is legal. there is pretty clear proof, and cube expert Tony Fisher himself agrees. So, I will show you various links and you can choose an appropriate one. It should at least be mentioned, along with the brand. (IF NOT THEN WHY IS V-CUBES MENTIONED, THEY INVENTED THE 6x6, 7x7, AND SO ON. YJ/MOYU INVENTED 13x13x13, IT IS EVEN PATENTED, BUT NOT MENTIONED?)

And this part:- Non-licensed physical cubes as large as 11×11×11 based on the V-Cube are commercially available to the mass-market circa 2011 in China; these represent about the limit of practicality for the purpose of "speed-solving" competitively (as the cubes become increasingly ungainly and solve-times increase exponentially). These cubes are illegal (even in China) due to the fact that they violate Panagiotis Verdes' patents; however some countries do not enforce patent law strictly, leading to their general availability. In addition, Chinese companies have produced 3×3×3 cubes with variations on the original mechanism that, while legally controversial,[citation needed] are generally considered to be superior for competitive speedcubing. This has NO sources.

Illegal brand shengshou has produced a working 10x10x10, so this needs to be edited:- Due to additional complexities inherent in manufacturing even-number-layered cubes, all cubes 93 or larger (as of 2012) have an odd number of layers.

So if by any chance you changed your mind, let me know and I will provide you with reliable links and the article will be edited.

TheMoyuGuy — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMoyuGuy (talk • contribs) 12:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It is perfectly clear to me that you do not have the faintest idea what a reliable source actually is, regardless of whether you are associated with Moyu or not. Of the three sources you put forward on the Rubik's cube talk page, one is a forum, one is a Youtube video (presumably from the manufacturer as it features an incomplete product), and the third is a chinese site featuring the same video as Youtube but with the addition of soft porn ads. None of them count as reliable and most of them are probably not independent. As for your comments about V-cube, that is totally irrelevant to whether your material should be allowed; other shit exists.

Anyway, as I said on the talk page, I am not going to service your edit requests as I am now involved. I will leave that to other editors. SpinningSpark 13:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	You've been on fire at the help desk, thanks. S Philbrick(Talk) 15:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Microelectromechanical systems

Would you be able to provide me some sort of guideline reference that justifies this edit? As far as I have seen, redirects in hatnotes that point to a disambiguation page, given that the redirect to the page matches the redirect to the disambiguation page with "(disambiguation)" in its title, are fine and also reduces confusion. Steel1943 (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I can point to one: WP:2R. Your edit is pointing to a double redirect > MEMS (disambiguation) > Mems (disambiguation) > Mems. You can retarget the hatnote to Mems (disambiguation) or retarget MEMS (disambiguation) to Mems, but it can't stay how you left it. SpinningSpark 18:10, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

• Ha, did I do that? I didn't realize that I made MEMS (disambiguation) a double redirect when I created it. I have now fixed it. At this point, are you opposed to me reverting your edit on Microelectromechanical systems? Steel1943 (talk) 18:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I have self-reverted. SpinningSpark 18:43, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

List of EDA Companies

Hello there,

I am writing you because I see you are one of the last contributors to the article mentioned in the title (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EDA_companies).

I see that quite a few of the companies that work on the field are missing. Who decide which are the ones that deserve to appear and which don't?

Among the companies that may be on the list:

http://www.maximintegrated.com/en.html

http://asygn.com/Home.php

http://www.easii-ic.com/index_en.php

http://www.accent-soc.com/index_flash.php

Thanks for any light you can shed

Regards,

Luca Paltrinieri79.155.121.178 (talk) 15:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

There are various criteria we use to construct lists but the most common is that entries must be notable according to Wikipedia's definition of that, and that is the criterion used in this list (I have just removed a few entries that don't meet the criterion). The most common way of establishing notability in lists is to link the entry to its already existing article on Wikipedia. It is possible to demonstrate notability by citing sources showing that the subject meets WP:42, but it is far preferable to create the article first and put the cites there instead, even if it is only a stub. As an unregistered user, you will not be able to start new pages, please see WP:AFC for how to proceed. SpinningSpark 17:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, and follow up

First, thank you for your helpful reply at Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2014_June_9#How_close_is_the_Wikipedia.2FWikidata_to_the_semantic_wiki_capability.3F. Since this thread was archived, let me elaborate a bit more. In addition to be being an active article creator, I have another hat - a Wikipedia researcher. I am planning to carry out a research project that would try to investigate gender inequality worldwide using Wikipedia biographies through time and space. Simply put, I want to create nice graphs (which we could host at Commons and which could improve numerous Wikipedia articles, up to and including the country-specific series of 100+ articles on gender inequality in country x), as well as tables, about the disparity between our biographies of men and female by year by ethnicity/nationality. I have already designed a working spreadsheet at [4] to illustrate what can be done. To finish this project, however, I need to extract data from Wikipedia, and I simply lack the skills to do that. Do you know where, or whom I could ask to extract such data for me, preferably in the form of the csv file formatted as in the sample spreadsheet linked? (If you reply here, please echo me - thanks). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@Piotrus: a good place to start might be Wikipedia:Bot requests. A lot of the guys there are able to access the database or have their own copies they can manipulate. Failing that, someone at WP:VPT might be able to help. SpinningSpark 15:48, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

"vacuum tube" head section

I have reintroduced, taking into account later edits, my changes in the vacuum tube head sections, which you had reverted some weeks ago. Now, my version may have been not perfect (consider also that I am not an English mother-tongue speaker), but I changed many things and I can't see why you rejected it en-bloc, with just a vague explanation. If you find something wrong in my version, before reverting it completely, please consider every single point.

I think that my edit improved the introduction in several ways:

1- clarifying in the first sentence that vacuum tubes are "various devices" and not "a device": a diode and a triode are based on the same principle but have completely different purposes, not to mention a cathodic ray tube.

2- ordering the paragraphs explaining first the common principle, then the various devices.

3- mentioning the names, with links to the respective articles, of the most important tubes: pentode was one of the most used tubes and isn't mentioned, triode is mentioned only in the last sentence, far form where its structure is explained, in an earlier paragraph.

4- A better historical section: I explained when they where mostly used, and when and how they were abandoned. This may be obvious to you, since your page says that you are in your fifties, but may be not obvious to younger readers.

Tcp-ip (talk) 09:21, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

First of all, discussion is meant to come before restoring a revert in the WP:BRD cycle and after consensus has been achieved for it. You have yet again inserted the false information that thermionic valve is synonymous with vacuum tube. It is not; valve in British English is synonymous with tube, but thermionic valve is a particular kind of vacuum tube. It is quite irritating to have that inserted right after I spent some effort disambiguating those terms and more than irritating to have it defiantly reinserted. Anyway, I have removed the offending part and left the rest of your edit intact. SpinningSpark 09:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Alan John Beale

You left a message about my removal of Person Data table on Beale's page. It was not working. I put in one that did.

I am John's son-in-law and we were alerted to the fact that someone had started a stub about John. Whoever did it knew less than I did.

Please email me at <e-mail redacted> with further issues.

I have no understanding of what capacity you are acting in. If all of this chat is being paraded in front of the world, I want to put a stop to that.

GefLiz (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2014 (UTC)GefLiz

(talk page stalker) @GefLiz: I have restored the Persondata template. The purpose of the template is to provide basic metadata for the person, and all of Wikipedia's biographies have it. It's not supposed to appear on the article itself, which is why you believe it's not working. As for "acting in capacity", we're all editors here collaborating on an encyclopedia; SpinningSpark is experienced with Wikipedia's policies and has explained their reversion adequately on your talk page. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:18, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Why are you telling to do things "immediately"?

As explained in my other response, I am a family member of John Beale's. I am trying to fix the mess created by the page's creator - whoever that was.

Surely, you don't have the vested involvement to tell me what to do to the page?

I am hoping that you are not some kind of police patrol who is going to reverse my improvements after all the efforts I have put into working out how this works.

Thank you for your vigilance, but please find out out WHY changes are being made before telling me to reverse them! Rest assured that I am previewing everything before saving and that I'm only inching along as I learn.

Email me your response - don't use these pages: <e-mail redacted>

GefLiz (talk) 23:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)GefLiz

image for Hamish Peacock

I would greatly appreciate it if you could find a photo for Hamish Peacock as i do not understand the copyright policy. I understand if you can not do this but it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks NickGibson3900 (talk) 12:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

What makes you think I have any access to photographs of him? SpinningSpark 15:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh sorry didn't think of that i'll ask someone who might. NickGibson3900 (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Friendly request.

Hello SpinningSpark, as I'm sure you are aware I've been trying to help people fix their signatures so they can be seen in all browsers. Yours currently does not appear when I view it from my BlackBerry mobile device because the <font> tags you are using are dropped, presumably because they are deprecated and obsolete. If you are interested and willing to updating your signature to use more up-to-date HTML code, I suggest replacing:

'''[[User:Spinningspark|<font style="background:#fafad2;color:#C08000">Spinning</font>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<font style="color:#4840a0">Spark</font>]]'''

with:

[[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]]

which will result in a 141 character long signature (18 characters shorter) with an appearance of: SpinningSpark
compared to your existing 159 character long signature of: SpinningSpark
— Either way. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Not sure if I'm more surprised that they're already dropping support of <font> tags or that Blackberry is still around. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

• SuperHamster, it is touchy at best and I had to get a hacked update to the browser to make it keep working (it is an old Curve 9330). — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:55, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks ....

For slapping me about the head. I have screen-dumped my Star.

GefLiz (talk) 18:09, 25 June 2014 (UTC)GefLiz

You have mail

You got mail. Check your inbox please. Thanks Lor^Chat 01:18, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:BNA access email

Hey Spinngingsparks, just wanted to remind you that I sent an email 5 days ago detailing how to get access to BNA through The Wikipedia Library, please make sure to follow those instructions and complete the Google Form. Thank you, Sadads (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Just pinging to remind you to fill out the Google Form. Please fill it out ASAP so we can issue the account, Sadads (talk) 17:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry in Internet Cafe

I thought that post was a troll post and ignored it. If the post is correct, then the original poster was snooping. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

You may be right, but I answered it in good faith anyway. SpinningSpark 15:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the AjoChhand Machine page

We are not professional editors, so mistake can happen. We joined only two days back.