Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeg was converted to Catholic<ref>{{cite book|last1=Zickel|first1=Raymond E.|last2=Iwaskiw|first2=Walter R.|title=Albania: a country study|publisher=The Division|isbn=9780844407920|pages=16|url=http://books.google.me/books?id=cVWlaX7Jgt0C&q=Gjergj+kastrioti+Roman+Catholic&dq=Gjergj+kastrioti+Roman+Catholic&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cI-oU8-5K-XMygOw04CQAg&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCQ}}</ref> after returning in Albania. He is buried in St Nicholas Church in Lezhe. [[User:AlbertBikaj|AlbertBikaj]] ([[User talk:AlbertBikaj|talk]]) 20:38, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeg was converted to Catholic<ref>{{cite book|last1=Zickel|first1=Raymond E.|last2=Iwaskiw|first2=Walter R.|title=Albania: a country study|publisher=The Division|isbn=9780844407920|pages=16|url=http://books.google.me/books?id=cVWlaX7Jgt0C&q=Gjergj+kastrioti+Roman+Catholic&dq=Gjergj+kastrioti+Roman+Catholic&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cI-oU8-5K-XMygOw04CQAg&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCQ}}</ref> after returning in Albania. He is buried in St Nicholas Church in Lezhe. [[User:AlbertBikaj|AlbertBikaj]] ([[User talk:AlbertBikaj|talk]]) 20:38, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:The source you presented is not reliable for Catholicism claim. The exact location of Skanderbeg's grave is unknown. Regarding St Nicholas Church in Lezhe please read [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Skanderbeg/Archive_7#Grave_of_Skanderbeg this section]. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:The source you presented is not reliable for Catholicism claim. The exact location of Skanderbeg's grave is unknown. Regarding St Nicholas Church in Lezhe please read [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Skanderbeg/Archive_7#Grave_of_Skanderbeg this section]. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:The fact that Skanderbeg was converted to Catholicism is a known thing who is also written in most of the books today and by almost all the authors who write about skanderbeg. Some reference about this [http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+al0017)] also [http://www.roman-catholic-saints.com/skanderbeg.html] and also [http://biography.yourdictionary.com/gjergj-kastrioti-skanderbeg],but also others.I believe that wikipedia should be on the same page with the real historical events.that he adopted christianity is clear and everyone can know that, but someone who enters here, wants to have more detailed info about skanderbeg and i think this should be precised since we are talking about the biography of someone,and religion is an important part of it.Some of the soureces have been used as reference on pages here like [[History of Albania]] page so of course they are a reliable sourse.[[User:RcLd-91|RcLd-91]] ([[User talk:RcLd-91|talk]]) 20:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
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A1: Yes, Skanderbeg was an Albanian feudal lord from the Albanian House of Kastrioti.
Q2: What language did they speak in Albania during Skanderbeg's lifetime?
A2: Skanderbeg's native language was Albanian. In the Balkans Italian, Greek, Vlach, Latin, South Slavic languages and Ottoman Turkish were also common during Skanderbeg's lifetime.
Q3: What was the background of Skanderbeg's mother?
A3: Primary sources refer to her as being from Polog, most likely being the Polog valley in modern day North Macedonia. It has also been argued that another Polog, closer to the town of Bitola in the plain of Pelagonia may be the location of the Polog mentioned by Barleti. some sources claim that she was from the Albanian and related to the Muzaka family, while others claim she was of Serbian or Bulgarian origin with many historians pointing at the Serbian Branković dynasty. There is however no mention of Voisava on the Branković dynasty family tree.
Q4: Was Skanderbeg a Roman Catholic?
A4: Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg was a Roman Catholic in the period from 1444 to his death in 1468. In the period prior to 1444, he had converted to Islam. The exact date of his conversion is unclear but it must have been between 1426 and 1431. His father, Gjon Kastrioti changed his religion several times (Roman Catholic/Christian Orthodox/Muslim).
Q5: What was Skanderbeg's real name and who were his parents?
A5: His real name was Gjergj Kastrioti, Gjergj is the Albanian version of the name George. His father was Gjon Kastrioti and his mother's name was Voisava Kastrioti
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Kastrioti is a Mijak Macedonian surname, now survived in the Bosnian Bogomils. If he was albanian his name would be Gjergj Zvogëlimin. If you have nothing better to do, check out the wikipedia page about european haplogroups by country and see who is the cuckoo here.89.205.2.29 (talk) 21:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is really funny ! In Northern Albania there is a old clan called "Kastrati". It has nothing to do with Macedonian language. AlbertBikaj (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Giorgio Castriota
I'd suggest to insert also a reference to his the Italian name (Giorgio Castriota) in the preamble of the article in addition to the Albanian and the Turkish ones. As we can see from the frame on the right part of the article, Skanderbeg used to sign documents with the Italian name, so also this is relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.92.153.10 (talk) 08:30, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The source for this signature is unknown so this signature should be removed until the source is provided. In order not to clutch the lede with different name versions it was decided to present names within separate section.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Demetrio Reres
Resolved
I created an article about Demetrio Reres and while expanding its content I noticed that numerous sources discuss his 1448 military migration to Italy and engagement by Alphonso V. The point is that I could not find any sources about Reres being a commander (General) of Skanderbeg's forces. Also, very few (not so exceptional) sources directly support the assertion that it was actually Skanderbeg who sent Reres to Italy.
This article has the whole paragraph with more than 750 characters about Reres. I am concerned that:
This might be irrelevant to the topic of this article because connection with Skanderbeg is poorly sourced. The only source which supports it is 1964 dissertation of George Nicholas Nasse who was specialized in Geography (link). I could not find any other work he authored and I think better source is necessary to connect Reres with Skanderbeg.
Reres was given undue weight in this article. Even if somebody presents better sources that prove that Reres was subordinated to Skanderbeg I don't think there is a valid reason to give a whole paragraph with more than 750 characters to Reres. This article is already to long.
General Grammer/sentence flow improvements; removal of redundancy and unnecessary information
Is anyone interested in making this article better with regards to grammar, sentence compositions, and general flow?
It also seems like there is a lot of information that shouldn't be in there, more specifically, many parts of the page go into too much detail when they shouldn't. Other information just seems redundant.
Is anyone interested on doing a piece by piece restructuring? Are there any dedicated editors of this page who agree/would be interested? CryogenicFuture (talk) 03:54, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Taking in consideration this comment is your third edit on wikipedia, I am uncertain if you would be able to improve this article in terms of following wikipedia policies and guidelines. That is where I can help.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that Skanderbeg was converted to Catholicism is a known thing who is also written in most of the books today and by almost all the authors who write about skanderbeg. Some reference about this [1] also [2] and also [3],but also others.I believe that wikipedia should be on the same page with the real historical events.that he adopted christianity is clear and everyone can know that, but someone who enters here, wants to have more detailed info about skanderbeg and i think this should be precised since we are talking about the biography of someone,and religion is an important part of it.Some of the soureces have been used as reference on pages here like History of Albania page so of course they are a reliable sourse.RcLd-91 (talk) 20:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]