Talk:Leung Chun-ying

More info

There's heaps more at his Official website. Earthlyreason (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

pro establishment

how is he pro establishment? hong kong has traditionally been pro british. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.163.7.55 (talk) 14:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC) ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.236.133.95 (talk) 11:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Because in Hong Kong, they don't hold democratic elections. That's why they're having the Occupy Hong Kong with Peace and Love movement. The people they vote for must be a puppet of the Chinese Communist Government, hence CY Leung himself did his inaugural speech in Mandarin (the language of Mainland China), and not Cantonese (the language of Hong Kong). 134.148.10.12 (talk) 01:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 15:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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Leung Chun-ying → CY Leung –

Per WP:COMMONNAME. Leung Chun-ying is more commonly known as CY Leung. Leung's official HK Government biography uses "C Y Leung". The BBC, the China Daily, and his own Facebook campaign page use "CY Leung". The New York Times uses "C.Y. Leung", as does the South China Morning Post and CNN. (As Hong Kong uses British English, I think the article title should come without periods, either "CY Leung" or "C Y Leung".) Jiang (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

• Support; looks like the COMMONNAME. Hopefully we can check that all the variations of punctuation and spacing are covered by redirects. bobrayner (talk) 00:43, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Family

Do we need names/details of his three children? Probably not, but they are here if required [1].Onanoff (talk) 11:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Where on that article does it mention names of other kids? Currently I can only see one child (Leung Chai-yan) mentioned, who can only be described as an embarrassment to the family 134.148.10.13 (talk) 03:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

CY Leung daughter (Leung Chai-yan) - Erratic behavior (slashing of wrists, bragging using tax payer dollars to buy expensive clothing and jewellery)

Her erratic behavior has included:

• "Will I bleed to death?" pictures of her self harming and slashing her wrists (http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1540529/did-cy-daughter-slash-her-wrist-bathtub?page=all)
• Bragging that she used tax payer dollars to buy shoes, dresses, etc (http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/03/hong-kong-leaders-daughter-mocks-protesters-thanks-taxpayers-for-all-her-all-my-beautiful-shoes/)

I'm not sure about Hong Kong, but in Australia, this sort of thing is highly relevant to a public official, with this erratic behavior of his daughter 134.148.71.167 (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

prefer not include the slashing wrist case. Seems to be psychological problems of the person. Relevant policy WP:AVOIDVICTIM WP:NPF Prodigyhk (talk) 09:01, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

It may be useful to ask yourself whether you have an inherent bias towards mental illness, because it is common for Asians to stylize mental illness with evil spirits, and feel shame about. Self-harm is consistent with borderline personality disorder (also known as emotionally unstable personality disorder) and in DSM-5 is classified under the cluster-B personality disorder type. With regards to WP:NPF, she is not a non-notable character. She is constanty appearing in media, and this is not incidental to being the daughter of CY Leung, she intentionally goes out of her way to make these extremely controversial postings, to troll the Hong Kong people. With regard to WP:AVOIDVICTIM, once again, I need to emphasize, mental illness does not happen to "victims", it happens to "patients", and is an attribute, not an "evil" 134.148.10.13 (talk) 01:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Corruption questions in Australia ($7m payout)

Fairfax Media has reported that CY Leung received $7m from an Aussie listed company (UGL engineering company) for supporting its Asian business ambitions: http://www.smh.com.au/national/hong-kong-chief-executive-cy-leung-faces-questions-over-secret-7m-payout-from-australian-firm-20141008-1134yv.html Again, I'm not sure about Hong Kong, but in Australia, but former MP Craig Thomson was sentenced to 3 months jail for the HSU fraud where he only misused $24,538 in 65 dishonesty charges. But this is almost $7m we're talking about here.... It's not the sort of thing that goes unnoticed here. It's in ALL the newspapers around Aussie! 134.148.71.167 (talk) 11:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

There is now even further evidence that he was paid this $7m on the SAME DAY that another company had trumped one of UGL's offers by $100m. Although they said it was a "better offer", one must seriously question whether this $7m had any "involvement" in this undertaking (http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/secret-7m-payment-to-cy-leung-agreed-to-on-same-day-rival-bidder-trumped-ugl-offer-20141013-115i1u.html) 134.148.10.13 (talk) 03:06, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

2 of the 3 executives at the London-listed DTZ left the business weeks after CY Leung signed at £4m (HKD $50m) agreement promising to retain the services of UGL. (http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/executives-quit-despite-cy-leungs-secret-multimillion-dollar-deal-20141014-1161vi.html) One must question whether CY Leung acted in the best interest of DTZ, given (1) another bidder exceeded UGL's bid by £90m, (2) he stood to gain £4m if this transaction went through 134.148.10.13 (talk) 00:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Tax avoidance has now also become an issue, as the evidence mounts up (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/09078c72-52d6-11e4-a236-00144feab7de.html#axzz3GDMqtnol) 134.148.72.237 (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

has now been updated Prodigyhk (talk) 08:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

NPOV tag

Plau - Notice you have added this tag "NPOV" tag to this article. But, you have not provided any reason in talk page. Request provide your reasons here in Talk Page for discussion Thanks Prodigyhk (talk) 05:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Let's start with the fact that the page has been heavily edited by the Chinese Communist Government's PR team, and any dissent against CY Leung is quickly removed. There's very little talk about his daughter's wrist slitting behaviours, the $7m he received so that an offer that trumped UGL's by $100m was not taken, and most recently - his statement "Democratic reforms would disproportionately benefit the poor" (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/10/hong-kongs-leader-laments-how-democracy-would-help-the-poor/381680/). This greatly contrasts with the clearly Communistic propaganda we can see on his current Wiki page, which states that he is the "Emperor of the working class". What he ACTUALLY said is: "if it’s entirely a numbers game and numeric representation, then obviously you would be talking to half of the people in Hong Kong who earn less than $1,800 a month". So he's making mockery of basically 99% of the working class of Hong Kong, instead saying "you have to take care of all the sectors in Hong Kong as much as you can", becoming a slave to the business elite in Hong Kong 134.148.10.13 (talk) 00:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

been working on this over the last few weeks. Do not find anyone removing dissent. Prodigyhk (talk) 09:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested moves

• CY Leung → C.-Y. Leung or C. Y. Leung
• CY Leung as Chief Executive of Hong Kong → C.-Y. Leung as Chief Executive of Hong Kong or C. Y. Leung as Chief Executive of Hong Kong

– Correct spelling according to the Manual of Style of Wikipedia (Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Periods (full stops) and spaces, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Initials. Katy Gallaghon (talk) 18:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people), which Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Initials cites as exceptions, says "See also section about pen names, stage names, nicknames and cognomens below: prefer what is most common" (emphasis mine). Also, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Initials also has an exception for "The person had or has a different preferred style for his or her own name", which is "C Y Leung" as seen in the HKSAR government website [2]. So if we are going to keep the abbreviated form we should use C Y Leung. _dk (talk) 19:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Why do you defend "CY Leung" and suggest "C Y Leung" while it should be "C. Y. Leung" or "C.-Y. Leung"? If you disapprove "C.-Y. Leung", would you agree to change the request to "C. Y. Leung"? Katy Gallaghon (talk) 19:40, 25 October 2014 (UTC).

I have explained my reading of the conventions linked above. The government and most sources use "C Y Leung" so that would be my first choice, second would be his full name Leung Chun-ying. "C. Y. Leung" is all right too, if the alternative is including that hideous hyphen. _dk (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

not agree' The hyphen does not make sense and should not be used. Regarding the period, most sources including official government release, use the initial "C Y" or "CY" without period". Prodigyhk (talk) 05:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

The hyphen make sense in the abbreviation as it is used in the full name (Leung Chun-ying → C.-Y. Leung). But it is true that most sources do not use it. I consequently added "C. Y. Leung" in my request so that it should be a compromise acceptable and satisfactory for everyone. Katy Gallaghon (talk) 07:38, 26 October 2014 (UTC).

"Chun" and "Ying" are separate words that have been used together to form the subjects name "Chun-Ying" which is equivalent to "first name" in western name system. To give this clarity to readers, the hyphen is added when written in English. Prodigyhk (talk) 13:13, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Support changing the article title to something different, C. Y. or C.-Y. presumably. This is not a pen name or stage name, so different publications follow whatever style they prefer; we follow one style, which likely is the most widely used in formal writing in English generally speaking, and there is no need to make an exception here. —innotata 18:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose - Per WP:Manual_of_Style/Abbreviations#Initials, the subject meets the conditions for initials without period Prodigyhk (talk) 04:09, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

"Democracy would see poorer people dominate Hong Kong vote"

His statement "Democracy would see poorer people dominate Hong Kong vote" (http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1621103/cy-leung-democracy-would-see-poor-people-dominate-hong-kong-vote) directly contradicts the statement in the article, the nickname "Emperor of the working class". He continues with "If it’s entirely a numbers game and numeric representation, then obviously you’d be talking to the half of the people in Hong Kong who earn less than US$1,800 a month [HK$13,964.2]" 134.148.10.13 (talk) 01:26, 29 October 2014 (UTC)