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November 15

03:41:15, 15 November 2015 review of submission by WmArbaugh

I'm confused - I don't think your comments are relevant to my questions regarding the encyclopedic tone of my draft submission - please let me know what your comments refer to. Thank you! WmArbaugh (talk) 03:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC) WmArbaugh (talk) 03:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me for being confused as well. Context is required. If you have a prior thread that has not been archived please edit that thread and ask your question there. If it has been archived please do not edit it, but ask the question again in full. Fiddle Faddle 17:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 05:33:30, 15 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Manvitha P


The article on 'Sri Ramachandra Guruji' was published in 'Enlighten India' magazine.I have provided this as reference.But still the submission is declined.Please help me so that the submission will be accepted.

Manvitha P (talk) 05:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Manvitha P, one source is simply not enough. To pass Notability there must be multiple independent reliable sources that contain significant coverage about the subject. Look for more magazine or news articles that discuss the subject. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

07:33:32, 15 November 2015 review of submission by Pianogac


I have added 9 citations with references below and would like to understand what else I need to do!

Thanks

Geoff

Pianogac (talk) 07:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

While awaiting the review please consider any improvements you can make to the draft. Music is an area where I feel out of my depth, so I will leave this to another reviewer Fiddle Faddle 17:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

14:28:42, 15 November 2015 review of submission by 80.41.154.191


80.41.154.191 (talk) 14:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

is there anyone who can tell me the illnesses which affect the adrenolin gland

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what the Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.

/wia /tlk 14:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:58:22, 15 November 2015 review of submission by 69.142.4.120


What notability and verification are you looking for? I want to provide evidence, but don't know specific information you want. We are going on our second trip to Haiti to install and provide technical support for s solar powered water treatment plant. Our website is www.viasolarusa.com Via Solar was the first company to utilize mobile solar technology in a commercially.

Hi, thanks for inquiring here. To make out notability, Wikipedia articles about corporations need a variety of reliable, independent sources; further, the coverage provided has to be in-depth, or more than just a passing mention. That seems to be the problem with the current referencing—the BBC article doesn't mention Via Solar at all, and the New Jersey Hills article only discusses Via Solar once, briefly. Have there been articles or other coverage of a more substantial nature? If so, that is the type of referencing required. Primary sources like a company's own website may be used sparingly, but they don't help establish notability, so the draft will need to rely on "outside" sources.
I'll also note that you should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest rules. Thanks, /wia /tlk 17:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:41:30, 15 November 2015 review of submission by MateoTimateo


A declining editor’s suggestions for improvement of the draft for the Mathers Museum of World Cultures stub include that I provide “clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.”

The Mathers Museum of World Cultures is mentioned in the following pages of this encyclopedia:

Additionally, the MMWC is accredited by the American Alliance of Museums.

MateoTimateo (talk) 19:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MateoTimateo: Hi, thanks for stopping by the Help Desk. If an organization like the museum is to be included in Wikipedia, it must be shown to be notable. In practice, this means finding reliable, independent sources that offer significant, in-depth coverage of the subject. Wikipedia articles themselves are not considered a reliable source for the purpose of referencing, and so mere mention of a subject in another Wikipedia article doesn't demonstrate notability.
I think one problem with the current referencing is that it draws exclusively from sources that are too closely related to the subject. (This is similar to what Onel5969 mentioned in his review.) The ISSUU magazine is from the museum itself, the "Treasures of the Mathers Museum" piece is written by Indiana University, which operates the museum, and the Interconnections piece was authored by the museum's director. In short, those are primary sources that aren't really independent of the subject. Can you find more independent coverage of the museum, perhaps in newspaper articles or other magazines? Keep in mind that regional or national coverage is preferable to local coverage, as it is a better demonstrator of notability.
Let us know if you have further questions. Happy editing! /wia /tlk 03:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 16

00:01:26, 16 November 2015 review of submission by Johnsonclaire12


Hi there, I am new to wikipedia and have recently created my first article, I am not sure if it is adhering to all the guidelines and would appreciate a bit of feedback. I see that your request for feedback link isnt working any more? Is there any other service to request feedback before the article is fully accepted or deleted? Many thanks

Johnsonclaire12 (talk) 00:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A reviewer Accepted this draft earlier today. Fiddle Faddle 17:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

04:35:13, 16 November 2015 review of submission by LW1588

I have edited references three times based on the reviewer's comments, and follow the exact format of the citations from other published Wikipedia articles. The sources from my article are published, and verifiable. I hold the archived original sources. Is it necessary to scan the original sources and email to you for verification? Please advise. Thank youLW1588 (talk) 04:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

05:19:20, 16 November 2015 review of submission by LW1588

I have edited my article several times, and got comments from different reviewers regarding the references. I am a bit confused with what is considered as "reliable source", and what is inline citation. My sources are published and verifiable. Not everyone gets the "New York Time" coverage, which does not mean that sources from other regional newspapers are unreliable. Please provide me examples of "reliable source" and "unreliable source". I am willing to scan my published sources to you for verification. Thank you for the help.LW1588 (talk) 05:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have left you a substantial comment on the draft. Please return here, to this section, if you have questions on it. Others will be happy to answer your questions, too. Fiddle Faddle 17:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:19:47, 16 November 2015 review of submission by 165.234.104.28


165.234.104.28 (talk) 19:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, do you have a specific question about a draft? /wia /tlk 19:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 17

06:58:06, 17 November 2015 review of submission by MpMe2015


@MpMe2015: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Do you have a particular question about the draft that we can answer? Thanks, /wia /tlk 15:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:24:33, 17 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by A.p.balakrishnan



A.p.balakrishnan (talk) 15:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@A.p.balakrishnan: Hello, welcome to the Help Desk. Do you have a specific question about the draft that we can answer? Thanks, /wia /tlk 15:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:28:26, 17 November 2015 review of submission by Juliaerickson

I am somewhat flummoxed about how to do all the references properly. The bot told me there was a problem but didn't highlight where the problem was, so I don't know what to fix. Someone else told me to look at the citation page, but I didn't know what I needed to take from that page. HELP!Juliaerickson (talk) 15:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)Julie Erickson Juliaerickson (talk) 15:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Juliaerickson - I formatted the first two references to give you examples of proper formatting. You can use them as templates, as well as using the other types of citations listed on the WP:CIT. For example, for books, and print magazines and newspapers, always use page numbers, authors, etc. When a bot leaves an error message like that, note where the error message occurs in the article, then go to edit mode and look in that location. In this instance you had left off a </ref> tag (there was a </a> there instead). Hope this helps. Also, feel free to ask questions on my talk page. Onel5969 TT me 16:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:03:04, 17 November 2015 review of submission by Pete716


I would like to know how an annual technology conference by one of the largest companies in the world is not notable. It was attended by over 20,000 people (cited in article) and the previous conference that this is replacing (TechEd) had it's own wikipedia page. If you do a search on "Microsoft Ignite" in google news you will see hundreds of articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete716 (talk • contribs)

@Pete716: at Wikipedia, "notable" means that the specific subject of the potential article has been covered in-depth by independent sources in reliable publications. The draft article fails to demonstrate that the subject meets that requirement. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And even if there is coverage, the community consensus may be that the subject is best covered in the main article about the sponsor rather than spinning out another article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:22:38, 17 November 2015 review of submission by Emily.white89


Hello, I am requesting assistance to help get my article on Rexnord approved. I am told I need more sources, although I cite 17 independent sources in the bottom references. Please let me know what I can do to get this article up to Wikipedia's standards. I would like this to become a quality and unbiased article. Thank you.

Emily.white89 (talk) 17:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Emily.white89: while you have a lot of footnotes, you don't seem to have included any that demonstrate significant coverage by reliably published sources not related to the subject. Press releases do not count. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:45, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:38:21, 17 November 2015 review of submission by 96.91.141.29

I wanted to check the status of the requested listing. Cumberland Academy of Georgia does not currently appear and I prepared and submitted a request for listing. I haven't been able to find it in pending or declined or any of the categories so perhaps I did something incorrectly. Thanks for any help you can provide. Terri Brooks, Director of Admissions, Cumberland Academy of Georgia,[redacted] 96.91.141.29 (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On a quick glance it does not appear to meet the basic requirements for a stand alone article. It is unlikely to be accepted for main space. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
On a more close view, it has been declined for not meeting other criteria as well. As the banner at the top of the page states, it is inappropriately advertorial in nature. Also, there was a message left on your user talk page User talk:96.91.141.29 explaining the same. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 18

04:26:40, 18 November 2015 review of submission by Amrita Sulabh Barnwal


04:26:40, 18 November 2015 review of submission by Amrita Sulabh Barnwal Why my article was rejected

Hi Amrita Sulabh Barnwal - The article was rejected because the references provided do not meet the notability requirements of Wikipedia. This was real easy to see in this case, since you provided zero references. To show notability, you'll need 2-3 in-depth articles about the company from independent, reliable sources. Usually that means magazines, books or newspapers. In addition to that, your article is highly promotional in tone, so it will need to be re-written, so as to get rid of it looking like a sales brochure for the company. Finally, in addition to the citations showing notability, you'll need other references as well, for example, to show that they actually won the awards stated in the article. You can find out how to properly use citations at WP:CITE, and how to properly format those citations at WP:CIT. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 20:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

10:33:26, 18 November 2015 review of submission by 50.53.86.73


This is the page I'm setting up, I can't tell if you can see the draft or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Alliance_for_Independent_Authors_(ALLI)

It got rejected. The organization has a media page with a lot of links, http://allianceindependentauthors.org/alli-in-the-news/

Seems plenty more notable than other pages, but was rejected anyway. Would love help!

Hi there. I think the subject probably could be established as notable, but you need much better sourcing. Virtually all your citations are to press releases (or press release based material) or to the self-published websites of the Alliance's various members. I'd suggest having a look for material in Google Books. There is some available there. And use press articles from mainstream newspapers rather than trade publications, but look for ones which devote at least a paragraph specifically to this organization rather than a passing mention in the context of a brief quote from its founder on the general subject of independent publishing. Unfortunately Wikipedia has literally thousands of articles on non-notable businesses and organizations, most of them created by people closely connected to or hired by the company/organization. The goal is to prevent more of them being created and to gradually examine and delete existing ones where appropriate. Wikipedia:Other stuff exists has more on that. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also pinging User:Teosocrates, who appears to be the author of the draft. Voceditenore (talk) 11:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:51:16, 18 November 2015 review of submission by Nerminsaleemi


Nerminsaleemi (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to have a page published: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DBMaestro all the sources cited are third party sources, and the company is notable because it is the first to do this. please help advise on why it is still being rejected. i appreciate any help Nerminsaleemi (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 19

Request on 08:03:30, 19 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Raminda 6



Raminda 6 (talk) 08:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Raminda 6: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Do you have a specific question about a draft? Thanks, /wia /tlk 14:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 08:22:39, 19 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Rizwan ashraf khaksar


Hi,

its just an article and i think have enough references to be published on Wikipedia. I guess, nobility of the references is not required for the general articles, is that?

Rizwan Ashraf 08:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC) Rizwan Ashraf 08:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I have left a comment on your draft. It tells you that it is not suitable for Wikipedia and explains why.
With regard to references, no, the standard is never reduced. Excellence of referencing is always required. Fiddle Faddle 11:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

10:38:34, 19 November 2015 review of submission by Pracbrown


My article has been reviewed, but rejected on the basis of reading more like an advertisement. I have tried to make it as generic as possible, but did want to highlight the original product - perhaps similar to the 'cola' article that mentions Coke. Should I take out all reference to 'Elveden' in the Instant Hedging article, where it is mentioned twice. Many thanks for your assistance, from a first time contributor!

@Pracbrown: Hello, thanks for dropping by! I agree that there is a promotional tone to the piece. In particular, I think the paragraph about Elveden's instant hedge should probably be excised. If the article is about instant hedges in general, then this section seems out of place, as it is devoted to only one instant hedge "brand", promoting them through words like "unusual", references to "demand increas[ing]", and repeated use of the brand's name.
I'd also consider getting rid of the "Why an Instant Hedge" section. This kind of pros-and-cons list looks good on a company website, but it doesn't quite mesh with Wikipedia's encyclopedic point of view requirements, and I'm not sure whether it adds much value to the article, especially given its lack of sources. There's also a referencing issue in the "importance of hedgerows" section, as there are some claims made here that aren't backed up by sources, like the suggestion that instant hedges can help reduce the greenhouse effect. While this is likely true on a trivial level, I'm not sure it's worth mentioning, and either way it will need some sort of citation to back it up.
Work on tightening up the draft, or consider discussing on the Hedge talk page whether portions of this content might be better suited for inclusion in the Hedge article. Other reviewers may want to chime in with their suggestions too. /wia /tlk 14:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:48:00, 19 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Full water



Full water (talk) 11:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC) @Full water: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Can we help you with a specific question about a draft? Thanks, /wia /tlk 14:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was speedy-deleted as unambiguous promotion and as copyright violation. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 13:19:55, 19 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Zhaobide


Hi, I'm trying to get a page accepted for Riot Jazz Brass Band. I have submitted twice and been turned down by the reviewer SwisterTwister. As far as I can see, I am meeting the notability requirements and I have included lots of references but apparently I'm still falling short. Could anyone give me any specific feedback about my page? Am I close to being accepted? It's my first page so would really appreciate any help that anyone can give me!


Zhaobide (talk) 13:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:58:21, 19 November 2015 review of submission by Taani hai


Taani hai (talk) 15:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply] 



y r u not acceptinh my articles..???
We are ordinary folk who, generally, do not respond well to SMS-Speak. I have left you a comment on your draft which you should read and digest. Fiddle Faddle 01:14, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:54:22, 19 November 2015 review of submission by Mikecasey52


I have created a simple, factual page. It is short and correct. Why have you rejectedit

Mikecasey52 (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have added to the comment left by the prior reviewer, left on the draft. You have work to do. Please get to it with a will. Fiddle Faddle 01:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:59:32, 19 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Ndecubas


Hello, I have been trying to post a page for a business, but all of the articles I have posted have been questioned for notability. The business has been up for 4 years, and is a certified business. I would like to know what else I would need to do to be published on Wikipedia, as I have sent many articles to be reviewed.

Thank You, Nicolas DeCubas

Ndecubas (talk) 19:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have left you a message as a comment on the draft. There is a lot of work to do, and you may not be successful. The comment explains it better. Fiddle Faddle 01:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

21:18:31, 19 November 2015 review of submission by Miamicd11


Miamicd11 (talk) 21:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Miamicd11: Hi, the article has been accepted into the mainspace and can be viewed by anyone from the public. There's no requirement for an article to be in a certain class in order for it to be seen. If you search "West End (Florida) in the Wikipedia search bar, the article should appear.
As for search engines, Wikipedia doesn't control where its articles appear in search engine rankings. That's done by algorithms run by the search engine companies themselves. However, if you search "west end (florida) inurl:wikipedia" on Google, you will see the article appear, so it is certainly out there. Thanks! /wia /tlk 21:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]


November 20

03:05:44, 20 November 2015 review of submission by Tamayo Knows


Tamayo Knows (talk) 03:05, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please ask for the help you need. The draft you have created has no obvious content. Fiddle Faddle 10:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:47:47, 20 November 2015 review of submission by 88.229.249.22



I have created a draft named Draft:Alpus. As I write more while trying to keep it encyclopedic, I keep getting "Not enough sources" declines. While it has derived-from products on the internet that I can find sources, the app is newly published. I wish and plan to keep technical and factual information reside on Wikipedia. Do you have any suggestions how can I simplify the article to be accepted?

Your issue is not simplification, but verification of notability. I have left you what I hope are helpful comments on the draft itself. Fiddle Faddle 15:17, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

09:21:26, 20 November 2015 review of submission by Mikecasey52


We are a relatively new organisation. We have received publicity in the rAF News (MoD publication). We have appeared on BBC TV as part of the annual Cenotaph remembrance parade. We do not have any other proof other than our webpage. How am I supposed to prove that we exist! Please help, I am a simple person, with no experience of Wikipedia and find the whole process beyond my comprehension. (I am not stupid, but I find your interpretation of the english language totally unfathomable)) Please just answer me in uncomplicated english!

Please, first, confirm that you have visited the draft and read my comment there. Then come back to this section and ask about the elements you do not yet understand. It is far better to ask specific questions than to just ask a very wide question. Fiddle Faddle 10:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me in simple english exactly what you want me to tell you. Simply telling me that I have to tell you what makes my organisation NOTABLE means nothing to me. Please state an example of what I need to tell you because this is not clear. Just telling me I have more work to do does not help at all.


Mikecasey52 (talk) 11:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tasks:
  1. Read WP:42
  2. Provide references that meet what is described there
Please ask specific questions when you do not understand. Fiddle Faddle 11:27, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I have listed the name of a government news paper (THe RAF News is part of the Ministry of Defence, (UK) as a reference to our notability. What more do you wanyt. It is the only reference we can give. Mikecasey52 (talk) 11:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then, with regret, I need to inform you that it is very unlikely that your organisation passes our stringent criteria for entry. Many organisations exist. Few make the cut. In time your organisation will, if notable, meet our criteria. just not today. Fiddle Faddle 11:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:14:11, 20 November 2015 review of submission by LG Brichetto


I would appreciate some feedback on an article I've been improving with content and more sources. It was initially declined because the reviewing editor wanted more sources. I've been told by a second reviewing editor that I was getting closer but needed even more sources. I'm at the point where I think I have enough sources? I want to resubmit it for review today if possible, and would appreciate any suggestions or direction. Thanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Parables_TV.LG Brichetto (talk) 18:14, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 21

Request on 12:37:13, 21 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Azadkashmirii



Azadkashmirii (talk) 12:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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