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Both these statements contain verifying references already footnoted. However, we now have the appearance of two editors who are looking for various reasons to do away with the probability or evidence of Briton settlements and/or the date 43 AD, from the Lede. One says he does not think it notable, and the other says it is unsupported speculation. Both seemed a bit too bully to initiate discussion rather than edit war, so I'm initiating it here for further explanation. Regards, [[User:Philip Mexico|Philip Mexico]] ([[User talk:Philip Mexico|talk]]) 14:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC) |
Both these statements contain verifying references already footnoted. However, we now have the appearance of two editors who are looking for various reasons to do away with the probability or evidence of Briton settlements and/or the date 43 AD, from the Lede. One says he does not think it notable, and the other says it is unsupported speculation. Both seemed a bit too bully to initiate discussion rather than edit war, so I'm initiating it here for further explanation. Regards, [[User:Philip Mexico|Philip Mexico]] ([[User talk:Philip Mexico|talk]]) 14:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Philip Mexico}} The article says {{tq|''"Although there is evidence of scattered Brythonic settlements in the area, the first major settlement was founded by the Romans after the invasion of 43 AD"''}} while the material you're edit-warring against multiple editors over says {{tq|''"probably close to an already existing [[Celtic Britons|Celtic Briton]] village or settlement – around the year 43"''}}. Which is not at all the same, meaning that ''"probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement"'' is pure unsourced speculation (see [[WP:OR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]]) and against the rules here. Which is why I have reverted you... - '''Tom''' | [[User:Thomas.W|Thomas.W]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|'''''<sup><small> talk</small></sup>''''']] 15:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC) |
:{{ping|Philip Mexico}} The article says {{tq|''"Although there is evidence of scattered Brythonic settlements in the area, the first major settlement was founded by the Romans after the invasion of 43 AD"''}} while the material you're edit-warring against multiple editors over says {{tq|''"probably close to an already existing [[Celtic Britons|Celtic Briton]] village or settlement – around the year 43"''}}. Which is not at all the same, meaning that ''"probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement"'' is pure unsourced speculation (see [[WP:OR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]]) and against the rules here. Which is why I have reverted you... - '''Tom''' | [[User:Thomas.W|Thomas.W]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|'''''<sup><small> talk</small></sup>''''']] 15:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC) |
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::Pardon me, but what do you see as the significant distinction in the import of those two sentences? Unless you are splitting hairs, such as one saying "settlements" (plural) and the other "settlement", which I should think would be easier to correct than edit war to delete all of the data about Britons and 43 AD from the Lede. [[User:Philip Mexico|Philip Mexico]] ([[User talk:Philip Mexico|talk]]) 15:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC) |
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Mention of Britons, 43 AD founding in Lead
As the body of the article states:
- Although there is evidence of scattered Brythonic settlements in the area, the first major settlement was founded by the Romans after the invasion of 43 AD.
Perring, Dominic (1991). Roman London. London: Routledge. p. 1. ISBN 978-0-203-23133-3. {{cite book}}
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This seems sufficient to justify the explanation in the lead:
- It was founded – probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement – around the year 43 by the Romans, who named it Londinium (7)
Both these statements contain verifying references already footnoted. However, we now have the appearance of two editors who are looking for various reasons to do away with the probability or evidence of Briton settlements and/or the date 43 AD, from the Lede. One says he does not think it notable, and the other says it is unsupported speculation. Both seemed a bit too bully to initiate discussion rather than edit war, so I'm initiating it here for further explanation. Regards, Philip Mexico (talk) 14:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Philip Mexico: The article says
"Although there is evidence of scattered Brythonic settlements in the area, the first major settlement was founded by the Romans after the invasion of 43 AD"
while the material you're edit-warring against multiple editors over says"probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement – around the year 43"
. Which is not at all the same, meaning that "probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement" is pure unsourced speculation (see WP:OR/WP:SYNTH) and against the rules here. Which is why I have reverted you... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)- Pardon me, but what do you see as the significant distinction in the import of those two sentences? Unless you are splitting hairs, such as one saying "settlements" (plural) and the other "settlement", which I should think would be easier to correct than edit war to delete all of the data about Britons and 43 AD from the Lede. Philip Mexico (talk) 15:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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