Talk:Israel Zangwill

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Where did he die? Some sources say Preston, and others Midhurst? David Martland 08:40, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

"Land without a people"

He did not coin the phrase. He simply did not. Look at the Shaftesbury article. It was a Christian usage that Zangwill imitated. Not one he originated.

Stop it - Suldana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.35.59 (talk) 00:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Shaftebury once said "A country without a nation for a nation without a country", which is another phrase. Zangwill coined the phrase "Land without a people" more than 50 years later. He might have been inspired by Shaftebury, but that is a different question. Suladna (talk) 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

What Zangwill actually wrote, in the New Liberal Review in December, 1901, was “Palestine is a country without a people; the Jews are a people without a country.”

The phrase was Christian. Zangwill admists that he borrowed it from Shaftesbury, see: Garfinkle, Adam M., “On the Origin, Meaning, Use and Abuse of a Phrase.” Middle Eastern Studies, London, Oct. 1991, vol. 27, No. 4.

There is no evidence that Zangwill every used the phrase in the form "land without a people." Somebody may have. It just wasn't Zangwill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.35.32 (talk) 00:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Zangwill and his play The Melting Pot

Reference needs to be made of Zangwill's authorship of the play The Melting Pot, which was first staged in the United States in 1908.

This page is incredibly biased towards a Zionist narrative Zangwill said "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (see voice of Jerusalem by Israel Zangwill page 92 http://books.google.ie/books?id=fFwqLZvZEtUC&) The claim he said Palestine was unpopulated is only half the story in regard to his views on the matter which seemingly changed over time moreover the explanation of why he said this in the first place ie: that there were no Palestinians calling themselves as such is an outright lie, Palestinian nationalism can clearly be traced to the 1800's. 78.16.101.144 (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Seán

Birth date

There are almost as many ghits for 14 February 1864 as there are for 21 January 1864. The Russian article has 14 February. This cannot be explained by any difference in calendars (the Julian-Gregorian gap was 12 days, but this is 24 days), nor would that be relevant anyway, as he was born in London. So, what's with this 14 February date? -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 12:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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"The prime thinker behind the territorial movement"

The "territorial movement" refers to the Jewish Territorialist Organization where Israel Zangwill's name is quoted several times ; it can not refer to Homeland for the Jewish people never appears. The link was misleading.--2A01:CB00:980:7A00:85E7:6B4:2061:B16F (talk) 22:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)