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:{{u|AnuYog}}, Wikipedia articles need to be written from a third-person, neutral view. This is because an article should state facts. For example, if sources describe the stories as {{tq|great reflections on social change}}, you could write {{tq|critics describe his stories as good reflections on social change}}. Basically, try to write it as if you only have read the sources. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">'''Jazz'''</i>]] 🎷 <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' | ''[[Special:Contributions/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 19:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC) |
:{{u|AnuYog}}, Wikipedia articles need to be written from a third-person, neutral view. This is because an article should state facts. For example, if sources describe the stories as {{tq|great reflections on social change}}, you could write {{tq|critics describe his stories as good reflections on social change}}. Basically, try to write it as if you only have read the sources. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">'''Jazz'''</i>]] 🎷 <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' | ''[[Special:Contributions/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 19:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC) |
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Congratulations
I have closed your RfA as successful. Good luck with your new tools! Maxim(talk) 23:03, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Maxim, thank you for closing the RfA and the good luck. I would like also say thank you to everyone involved in my RfA including commenting, asking questions and !voting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 23:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Congrats! Have fun with your reading - I'm sure you'll be a great addition to the mops corps! Nosebagbear (talk) 23:13, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Also, welcome to the Admin Menagerie! Nosebagbear (talk) 23:16, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Hey, as your nominator, just wanted to give you a shout-out. Now that it's safely over, I can say I was hoping, and it turned out to be, a whole lot less nerve-wracking than my last nomination; for everyone involved, I think this went well. Enjoy the new buttons, and if you ever have any questions or an oversight request you know how to find me. For now, I'll raise a glass! The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:02, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- The Blade of the Northern Lights, thank you for the message. Incase you wonder, I tried to thank your edit but misclicked hitting rollback instead. Apologies for that. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 03:17, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
On behalf of good Wikipedians everywhere, I present you with your level 1 mop. May it serve you long and well. Your gilded and diamond encrusted level 60 mop is on back order :) Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 19:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. That level 60 mop sounds expensive. I wonder if it is worth the extra cost...
Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 01:50, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Belated congratulations. Glad I had a chance to support your RFA. Good luck. Donner60 (talk) 01:44, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hey I'm a bit late due to inactivity, but congrats. When you "retired" a while back, I was very distraught that your planned RfA would not be coming to fruition. I'm honestly very pleased that it still happened and that I had the opportunity to support! You're a good egg, and I'm glad to see you around. Best, ~Swarm~ {sting} 07:30, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Swarm, thanks for the message. I had similar thoughts on it, but all turned out well. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 00:07, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
CU blocks
Unless the tools don't let you, I believe that yes, you can. There was CU confirmation in the SPI case. I'm not saying you should (since in this case they were declared indistinguishable AND left for behavioural evaluation), just that you could. Some of the checkusers like to leave a clear distinction between their checkuser role and their admin role so, having checked and reported, will not continue onward to carry out the blocking on the same case. There's currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations#"Checked" status where some of the CUs are discussing (among other things) this point. I'm sure TonyBallioni will put us right if I'm wrong. Happy editing mopping & congrats on the RfA. Cabayi (talk) 20:14, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- Cabayi, thanks for the note. Just the wording at Wikipedia:CheckUser#CheckUser blocks, specifically the part
Checkusers can block accounts based on technical (checkuser) evidence. They will make clear in the block log summary that they have blocked as a "checkuser action". These blocks must not be reversed by non-checkusers
to me said that if a checkuser did not apply the block (even if there was evidence and no behavioural evaluation was needed) then isn't a checkuser action and so would be reversible by non-CUs. Furthermore, if it was reversible by non-CUs then it can't really be a check user block. I may be reading it wrong. Also thanks for the congratulations on the RfA. Seems ages ago now. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)- Not sure the initial question, but only a CU should use any of the CU block templates. If a CU has confirmed and another admin blocks, it’s just a regular admin block. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:37, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- What TonyBallioni said. If it isn't made by a CU and isn't labeled as a CU block, then it's not a CU block. Regular block/unblock rules apply. Risker (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry to have got it wrong, glad to have learnt something. Cabayi (talk) 15:19, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
My Sandbox / Wayne Johnson Article
I've updated it and its been edited.
Can you take a look and get it published. I'm at a loss he is running for the US Senate and his page was no different really than other candidates.
Best regards,
Bryant.Willis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryant.willis (talk • contribs) 14:34, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Kelly Loeffler not Johnson was selected to succeed Johnny Isakson. Candidates aren't notable under WP:NPOL and his service as a public servant doesn't appear to meet any of the standards of notability, WP:N, WP:GNG. If published, your article isn't likely to survive. Some subjects just aren't notable. Cabayi (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- (also...) The undeclared candidates listed in 2020 United States Senate special election in Georgia with articles appear to have served in elected office previously and pass WP:NPOL for that reason, not for their potential candidacy next year. Cabayi (talk) 15:36, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- Bryant.willis, to follow up what Cabayi has said, as far as I can tell, he has only been covered in multiple reliable and independent sources in regard to one event. This one event is his resignation and protest over the student loans in the US, which generated a number of newspaper articles. We have a policy on Wikipedia which relates to living people. A part of this policy says that if a person is only notable for one event, the person is unlikely to be in the news in the near future, and if the event was not significant then the person shouldn't have an article about them on Wikipedia. From what I can see he meets these points and so he isn't yet notable.
- Furthermore, are you being paid for your edits? I know you have written
Currently working on Dr. Arthur Wayne Johnson Senate Campaign
on your talk page, but is this a role you are being paid to do? If you are, you need to explicitly say you are being paid, due to Wikipedia's terms of use on paid editing. I recommend if you are being paid that you clarify by saying that you are being paid (something like "Currently being paid to work by Dr. Arthur Wayne Johnson on his Senate Campaign). If you are not being paid, what you have written on your userpage is fine, but then please do reply saying that you are not being paid. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 17:04, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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... you were recipient no. 2094 of Precious, a prize of QAI! |
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, thanks for the precious anniversary message. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 11:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Beethoven's birthday, as far as we know, so happily in the process of creating a little article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Draft:Ghanada (1)
Greetings, Can you please approve this wiki page? I have made a lot of changes according to comment. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnuYog (talk • contribs) 19:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Dreamy_Jazz, Greetings, Can you please approve this wiki page? I have made a lot of changes according to comment. Thanks.
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- Reviewer of the Year
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Jessie Paege Deletion
- in re: Jessie Paege (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch
You should not have deleted Jessie Paege. The sources did show notability, she has over a million subscribers on YouTube. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 21:06, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- CheatCodes4ever, the PROD process works in that if you want to contest it, all you have to do is remove the PROD tag. Because you did not remove the PROD tag in the 7 days it could be deleted without delay. I saw that the article only used 4 sources and I evaulated them based on the general notability guideline. Two of them were references to a wiki (wikis cannot define notability due to them not being reliable and also due to WP:USERGENERATED). The others were to a spotify page and her YouTube channel which both do not define notability because they are not independent. Therefore, there was zero notability defining sources for WP:GNG. Furthermore, YouTubers are subject to the entertainers notability guideline (WP:ENT) which says that they must have a large fan base. YouTubers with higher subscriber numbers have had their pages on Wikipedia deleted (for example Jaiden Animations who had 4,400,000 subscribers at the time her page was deleted on Wikipedia). Subscriber count, in itself, does not define notability (and if it did, then the article would still be deleted, as she has less subscribers than another YouTuber who had their page deleted). Also it is likely that she does not have a large enough fan base to meet WP:ENT.
- Furthermore, the way PROD works is that if you contest it, it can be undeleted. Therefore, I have restored the page. However, I may nominate the page for deletion through the articles for deletion process. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 22:56, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- To allow you to improve the article I have moved it to draft space. Please submit it for review when you think it is ready. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 23:02, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas Dreamy Jazz |
Hi Dreamy Jazz, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas |
- Davey2010 have a good christmas and new year too. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 01:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Please move this draft to User:CptViraj/sandbox/Team Brutality without leaving a redirect. Thankyou and Merry Christmas! -- CptViraj (📧) 17:14, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- CptViraj, done. Forgot to uncheck create redirect, so just deleted the resulting redirect. Merry christmas too. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 17:19, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
@Dreamy Jazz: Greetings, Kindly have a look & approve this wiki page? Merry Christmas!
- AnuYog Hello. I have declined the submission as several sections and paragraphs are unsourced. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 06:03, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
@Dreamy Jazz: Kindly re-review & approve. I have made all the changes. Thanks!
Hey, can you please re-review & approve the same? I have made all the changes according to your suggestions. Thanks! AnuYog (talk) 15:35, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- AnuYog, I have declined the submission as it reads promotionally. Please ensure that the draft is written from a neutral point of view. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:27, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Okay. Will you guide me please? It will be great help. Can you please tell me more specific? AnuYog (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- AnuYog, Wikipedia articles need to be written from a third-person, neutral view. This is because an article should state facts. For example, if sources describe the stories as
great reflections on social change
, you could writecritics describe his stories as good reflections on social change
. Basically, try to write it as if you only have read the sources. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
@Dreamy Jazz:, Can you have a look again? I just made that changes. Thanks! @Dreamy Jazz: Hey, can you please re-review? Thanks. AnuYog
Happy Holidays
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Thank you for continuing to make Wikipedia the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. Lightburst (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2019 (UTC) |
- Lightburst Thanks. Hope you have a good holiday season too. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 05:56, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
このミラPはDreamy Jazzたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます!
フレフレ、みんなの未来!/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE!
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- Miraclepine Thanks for your message. I hope you have a good Christmas and new year. 2020 awaits (and so does Wikipedia
). Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 08:40, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Still Forced to Battle Incompetent "Editing"!
@ Dreamy Jazz,
I find this site very confusing to navigate and am trying to respond to today's email request for me to "talk" to you because you "mentioned me" somewhere. I've, unfortunately, found it necessary to periodically repost my two paragraphs to the Johann Bessler article because another "editor" seems determined to keep the topic incomplete, misleading, and out of date! I'm trying to counter that with the two paragraphs I've added. He seems to think that because I've done past research in the subject, that automatically disqualifies me from contributing to it when, in any other encyclopedia, that would be a necessary REQUIREMENT for making a contribution! Well, we'll see how long this nonsense will keep up. Right now, I feel that HIS ability to vandalize the Wikipedia articles should be terminated so he cannot do any future damage to them! I wonder if this situation persists with the other Wikipedia articles? I certainly hope not, but I'm starting to realize why most teachers and college professors will not allow their students to use this "free" encyclopedia as a source of information for papers that they might write. Well, at least the students can always use the references listed even if they cannot trust an article's "information".
Ken Behrendt December 25th, 2019 (Merry Christmas!)
I'm supposed to "sign" this with four "tildes"? Okay, here goes...
Ken Behrendt (talk) 13:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Ken Behrendt, hello and belated christmas wishes.
- The main reason your additions are being reverted, is not because it references your book, instead it is because your book is self-published. Self-published sources are not necessarily reliable, as the self-published source may not have been checked by a independent reviewer before publishing. Therefore, our readers cannot be sure that information supported by an self-published source is correct. You can see more information on our policy on self-published sources.
- The other main reason is that your addition can read like an advertisement for yourself and your work. For example,
[t]he rediscovery required making about 2,000 computer wheel models
can be seen as advertising for yourself. For more information you can see our conflict of interest guideline and our Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion policy. - What I strongly advise you to do is that you talk on Talk:Johann Bessler with myself, Eb.hoop2 and other editors. The talk page is a place where discussions relating to the article are best to happen. This allows other editors to see and also contribute their opinions and thoughts in the discussion. Commenting on the talk page allows you to explain why your addition is appropriate, and allows others to explain why they think the opposite. It allows consensus to be formed, so an agreement on what the best action is (whether to add or leave out your addition). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:59, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. Let me add a few things to what Dreamy Jazz has said here about Ken Behrendt's edits to the article on Johann Bessler. First, one should bear in mind that the factual claim that Behrendt is making (that gravity-powered perpetual motion is possible) is about as non-mainstream as a claim can be, since it contradicts the laws of physics as they've been accepted by the scientific community for at least three centuries. It's on par with claiming that that the Earth is flat or that the Moon landings were faked. Since Wikipedia is not a forum for debate, but rather a vehicle for summarizing and communicating widely accepted information, there must be a strong presumption against claims of actual perpetual motion in the body of an article. And even if Behrendt wished simply to document the claims that he's made elsewhere, without offering them as proven facts, there would still remain two problems: that the claims are not sufficiently notable (having been made before only in self-published and relatively obscure media), and that he's not allowed to use Wikipedia to promote his own work.
- Finally, I should mention that I think that Behrendt's personal behavior in this matter has fallen below the standards of the Wikipedia community. He hasn't merely refused to engage in discussion in the article's talk page, at first he repeatedly deleted my own comments on the matter, which amounts to sabotaging the established consensus-forming process. His subsequent engagement has amounted to little more than re-introducing the same material into the article after I've taken it out, and to ad hominem attacks in my user talk page, and now in yours. Eb.hoop2 (talk) 21:44, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Ken Behrendt's response to Dreamy Jazz: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.144.202 (talk) 07:49, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback, "Dreamy Jazz", concerning my additional material for the "Johann Bessler" article.
Let me briefly respond to some of your comments:
You seem to be saying that my book on Johann Bessler is somehow worthless because it is "self-published". If one was to use that same logic for dismissing the validity of any published work, he'd also have to dismiss Isaac Newton's Principia Mathematica... which was self-published by Newton with funds he borrowed from friends! To the contrary, it is considered one of the most important works in science. Unlike the VAST majority of the published works referenced in your "free" encyclopedia articles, my book is the end product of close to a half CENTURY of research. It should not to be taken lightly and casually dismissed by uninformed "editors".
After multiple deletions, I purposely removed the single reference to my book in one of the two paragraphs I added to the "Johann Bessler" article and predicted that, after doing so, the material would still be subject to censorship by, I suspect, solely "Eb.hoop2". Needless to say, I was right. I, unfortunately, had to endure reading some of his comments included in your message to me, so let me briefly respond to them:
He writes:
"First, one should bear in mind that the factual claim that Behrendt is making (that gravity-powered perpetual motion is possible) is about as non-mainstream as a claim can be, since it contradicts the laws of physics as they've been accepted by the scientific community for at least three centuries. It's on par with claiming that that the Earth is flat or that the Moon landings were faked."
It's really a shame that he does not even read the material he so zealously deletes! If he had, he would have realized that I specifically state that Bessler's wheels were NOT perpetual motion machines and did NOT create energy out of nothing. In fact, they did not violate any of the known laws of mechanics and physics back in the early 18th century or today! Also, at no time did I say that Bessler's wheels were "gravity powered"! More misinformation from Eb.hoop2! Gravity did enable the process by which the wheels could extract energy from the mass of their weights and levers, but gravity did not supply the energy his wheels could continuously output. One could actually use any sort of force field to achieve this effect. His wheels will work just as well aboard a rotating type space station using centrifugal force or inside of a powerful magnetic field if one uses iron weights instead of lead ones at the ends of their wooden levers.
He then continues with:
"Finally, I should mention that I think that Behrendt's personal behavior in this matter has fallen below the standards of the Wikipedia community. He hasn't merely refused to engage in discussion in the article's talk page, at first he repeatedly deleted my own comments on the matter, which amounts to sabotaging the established consensus-forming process."
Typical and shabby attempt at "Blame the Victim". HE started, without "discussion", by deleting some important material I provided in an effort to make the "Johann Bessler" article more accurate and complete and then later suggested that I was using Wikipedia to promote a book's sale! I was so offended by his actions and libelous suggestions that I felt no hesitation in deleting them and will again if he continues to make them. Apparently, he likes to ignore his own insulting suggestions toward others while putting the focus on their completely normal responses to HIS provocations! He says I "refused to engage discussion in the article's talk page". The reality is that, so far, I've probably written two of the longest responses on any of the "talk pages". Also, as I've mentioned previously, I am new to this editing process and find the layout of the portion of the Wikipedia site used for editing purposes confusing, overly complicated, and difficult to navigate. I'm actually lucky I found this page so I could respond to Dreamy Jazz!
In my opinion, Eb.hoop2 is NOT qualified to edit ANY of the material having to do with the mechanics of Johann Bessler's wheels. Maybe if he was to educate himself by actually reading my volume on Bessler and his wheels, then he would be so qualified. Based on my unfortunate experience with him, I also question his competence to edit ANY of the Wikipedia articles. After the repeated harassment I've been expose to, presumably due solely to his "editing" which I consider little more than incompetent censorship, if I had the authority I would permanently remove his ability to edit anything on Wikipedia!
Ken Behrendt December 27th, 2019