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== Was his firing from the LAPD justified? == |
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LAPD’s firing of Christopher Dorner was justified, report says https://www.latimes.com/local/la-xpm-2013-jun-21-la-me-dorner-20130622-story.html |
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Manifesto for killings
At the time I was participating in a couple of online forums and was wondering if it was worth noting that the manifesto reported by some media outlets [1] was in fact an edited version with several glaring anomalies uploaded onto pastebin for pranks, by certified idiots [2]. It's even fair to say that people looking to read this so-called manifesto may come across the edited copy.
Is it relevant? 2A02:C7F:A006:2300:4C79:7BEA:7884:FD9D (talk) 09:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- It does not seem relevant to the article but your notice here on the talk page should do. Those interested enough in the topic to be looking for a copy of the manifesto likely will discover this talk page section. The external links section of the Wikipedia article included a link to what's claimed to be a copy of the Dorner manifesto.[1] Unfortunately, that one is hosted on a personal blog by someone with a clear bias. We have no way of knowing if what's on that blog is an accurate copy of what Dorner originally posted, particularly as there are many versions that all claim to be the original unredacted manifesto. I have changed the external links item to instead use the manifesto that's posted on the Los Angles Times web site which should be a WP:RS. While the LA Times copy it has various names redacted I don't think we loose much from an encyclopedic viewpoint.. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Assumed responsibility
Given that the article is titled "Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt", and that no one else is believed to be responsible, and since there's no BLP issue with making a direct accusation, I think it's inappropriate to phrase the article as if Dorner was merely a suspect. It's not as if there's an alternate theory of the crime. So I made a some minor changes to assume that Dorner was the person responsible, and also to simplify the grammar.[2] Felsic2 (talk) 05:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Misidentification of terrorism
While no universal definition of terrorism is established, the Academic Consensus Definition is considered the gold standard. No international definition has been ratified but neither the ACD nor US federal law (US code 113B § 2331) describe terrorism in a way that is comparable to Dorner's actions. While legal ambiguity in this is used typically so that political leadership can denounce opposition of all sorts as terrorism, the standard maintained in the US plainly does not apply here. Ergo, this incident is incorrectly categorized as domestic terrorism, even if certain emotionally laden officers would have told media otherwise at the time. I would like this to be reviewed, but absent any further comment I will go ahead and make the change in several days in keeping with accuracy on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.227.7 (talk) 03:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Reversion of edits by 24.19.54.27
This batch of edits were recently made by a user at 24.19.54.27. I've had to revert the bulk of these changes for a number of reasons. Most of the issues centered on tone, POV, grammar, phrasing, reading comp issues, and so forth.
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There were probably other changes I reverted as well, but the point is, the edits were fraught with problems. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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