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:: Agree [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] - Chick's anti-catholic bent is well established - So why did you revert the edit to add the category back in? [[User:Ckruschke|Ckruschke]] ([[User talk:Ckruschke|talk]]) 19:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke |
:: Agree [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] - Chick's anti-catholic bent is well established - So why did you revert the edit to add the category back in? [[User:Ckruschke|Ckruschke]] ([[User talk:Ckruschke|talk]]) 19:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke |
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I'm not sure why there's such a debate about adding Jack Chick to |
I'm not sure why there's such a debate about adding Jack Chick to ''Category:Anti-Catholicism in the United States''. He seems to fit the bill. There are other evangelical authors like [[Dave Hunt (Christian apologist)|Dave Hunt]] who have been placed in that category. [[User:Dustytumble|Dustytumble]] ([[User talk:Dustytumble|talk]]) 23:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Dustytumble}} There's longstanding consensus against grouping people in categories like "Antisemites", "Islamophobes", "Homophobes", "Racists", etc. (Here are some past discussions: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_27#Category:Anti-Semitic_people][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_May_22#Category:Anti-Jewish_politicians][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_April_22#Category:Islamophobes][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_May_24#Category:Homophobes][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_20#Category:Racists][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_December_26#Category:Racist_people]). The 2011 RfC concluded that biographical articles should be omitted from "bias categories" more generally. I know various other biographical articles are in these categories right now (thank you for pointing out Dave Hunt); I've been checking through them gradually, as I have time. Cheers, [[User:Genericusername57|gnu]][[User talk:Genericusername57|<span style="color:#ff7000">57</span>]] 02:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC) |
:{{ping|Dustytumble}} There's longstanding consensus against grouping people in categories like "Antisemites", "Islamophobes", "Homophobes", "Racists", etc. (Here are some past discussions: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_27#Category:Anti-Semitic_people][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_May_22#Category:Anti-Jewish_politicians][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_April_22#Category:Islamophobes][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_May_24#Category:Homophobes][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_20#Category:Racists][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_December_26#Category:Racist_people]). The 2011 RfC concluded that biographical articles should be omitted from "bias categories" more generally. I know various other biographical articles are in these categories right now (thank you for pointing out Dave Hunt); I've been checking through them gradually, as I have time. Cheers, [[User:Genericusername57|gnu]][[User talk:Genericusername57|<span style="color:#ff7000">57</span>]] 02:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:: [[User:Genericusername57|gnu]] - thanks for the clarification! [[User:Ckruschke|Ckruschke]] ([[User talk:Ckruschke|talk]]) 17:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke |
:: [[User:Genericusername57|gnu]] - thanks for the clarification! [[User:Ckruschke|Ckruschke]] ([[User talk:Ckruschke|talk]]) 17:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke |
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Chick and the Jews
The article claimed that Chick "accused ... Jews ... of murder and conspiracies". This is simply not true. I took that out and was reverted because of a single essay on Chick that said he was "ultimately anti-Semitic". First of all, we shouldn't say somebody believes in a Jewish conspiracy just because of one source; secondly, saying he was "ultimately" anti-Semitic implies that he wasn't directly anti-Semitic. In any event, the source doesn't say Chick believed in a Jewish conspiracy, because he didn't. Please don't put this false and unsourced claim back in. —Chowbok ☠ 23:56, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- agree on needing more sources. Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 01:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Carol Chick date of death incorrect?
Sorry I'm new at this.
This article lists his daughter Carol's death as 1998, not 2001.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/25/jack-chick-christian-comic-cartoonist-death — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmschilling (talk • contribs) 14:26, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Picture
The SPLC has a picture of Jack Chick at https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/ir162_briefs_mrchick.jpg should we use it here? 50.58.161.98 (talk) 17:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Anti-Catholicism category
@Ixocactus: Regarding this edit: it doesn't matter that Chick's anti-Catholicism is reliably sourced in the article text (and self-evident from his body of work): there is consensus against categorising individuals by their [alleged] biases. Please see the 2011 "bias categories" RfC; see also the guidance at Category:Anti-Catholicism in the United States, This category must not include articles about individuals, groups or media that are allegedly anti-Catholic.
Cheers, gnu57 22:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, and it doesn't matter that lots of articles get added to the categories contrary to the consensus either. On the other hand, it is completely appropriate that Chick tract be included in the category. StAnselm (talk) 23:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes. But I think that sources matters. He is a notorious anticatholic and his tracts too. We do not need weasel words nor wikilawyering here. Ixocactus (talk) 00:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Agree StAnselm - Chick's anti-catholic bent is well established - So why did you revert the edit to add the category back in? Ckruschke (talk) 19:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke
I'm not sure why there's such a debate about adding Jack Chick to Category:Anti-Catholicism in the United States. He seems to fit the bill. There are other evangelical authors like Dave Hunt who have been placed in that category. Dustytumble (talk) 23:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Dustytumble: There's longstanding consensus against grouping people in categories like "Antisemites", "Islamophobes", "Homophobes", "Racists", etc. (Here are some past discussions: [1][2][3][4][5][6]). The 2011 RfC concluded that biographical articles should be omitted from "bias categories" more generally. I know various other biographical articles are in these categories right now (thank you for pointing out Dave Hunt); I've been checking through them gradually, as I have time. Cheers, gnu57 02:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- gnu - thanks for the clarification! Ckruschke (talk) 17:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke
No. These past discussions don't clarify anything. They are about ugly deleted categories. This category will be not deleted. Sources matters. Ixocactus (talk) 21:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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