Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 15, 2021.
Claudia Pulchra (wife of Gracchus)
- Claudia Pulchra (wife of Gracchus) → Tiberius Gracchus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (wife of Philippus) → Lucius Marcius Philippus (consul 91 BC) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (wife of Lucullus) → Lucullus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Clodia Pulchra (wife of Metellus) → Clodia (wife of Metellus) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (wife of Metellus) → Clodia (wife of Metellus) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra Major → Marcus Junius Brutus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra Minor → Gnaeus Pompeius (son of Pompey the Great) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (great-niece of Augustus) → Claudia Pulchra (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (daughter of Fulvia) → Claudia (wife of Octavian) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Clodia Pulchra (wife of Augustus) → Claudia (wife of Octavian) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Claudia Pulchra (wife of Augustus) → Claudia (wife of Octavian) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Complicated trove of misattributed/incorrect names which, since their original inception in 2015 (some were deleted and recreated several times after), have repeatedly misled readers and editors alike and led to several ill-conceived page moves and creations. There is only one person attested with the name 'Claudia Pulchra', but these entries and this highly irregular disambiguation page containing them have done a great deal to muddle this fact. Some of the people represented by the redirects are not even identical to whom the target articles represent, and so, even if any of the individual entries were correct, they'd be next to useless. It's highly unlikely anybody will ever type any of these terms without knowing them beforehand, and deleting all will spare both readers and editors of misdirection and confusion in the future. Avilich (talk) 20:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment For two recent previous discussions, please see Talk:Claudia Pulchra (disambiguation). Certes (talk) 20:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
"North Carolina Press Association"
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was speedy delete. The nom is correct that these technically did not qualify for speedy deletion, but that's what WP:IAR is for and I noted the reasoning in the deletion log. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- "North Carolina Press Association" → North Carolina Press Association (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- North Carolina Press Association// → North Carolina Press Association (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible typos (not recently created so ineligible for speedy deletion). Elli (talk | contribs) 18:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy G6 as unambiguously created in error. edit summaries by the article creator make it clear these were typos, and the article was only at this title for 20 mins. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 19:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Deceased inventor
- Deceased inventor → Inventor (patent) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This just strikes me as very unlikely search term. No incoming links at all, so it isn't used anywhere. Not mentioned in target article, and if someone was searching this, it is not a safe assumption that they were curious specifically about patent law. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- If anything I think List of inventors would make more sense since I believe it’s more likely thy someone using this as a search term is looking for a list of dead inventors and since thr list does mentioned the date of birth and death (if applicable) it would be more useful than the current target.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 21:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Infravision
- Infravision → Dungeons & Dragons gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete the redirect as no longer useful. Target article used to have a section describing infravision, but it was removed so the redirect is just confusing. Also before being a redirect this article covered the topic, but because it has no current references it was reverted when I restored it. Diego (talk) 16:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- This is mentioned in a number of D&D-related articles, and probably should be covered somewhere—but if it's not going to be, a soft redirect to wikt:infravision would be better than deletion. - Eureka Lott 17:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Refine target to Dungeons_&_Dragons_gameplay#Extraordinary_senses where it is discussed --Lenticel (talk) 01:30, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- That section was there, but it was just removed - that said, I think we can afford to say something on the topic on that page, which would be the best place to include such information. 2601:249:8B80:4050:B05E:9959:5A91:C6A0 (talk) 12:30, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Refine target as outlined above, after restoring the deleted material noted above. BOZ (talk) 03:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I am unfamiliar with the game usage, but "infravision" in my experience more commonly refers to "infrared vision", or vision at infrared wavelengths. If there are multiple usages, then this should become a disambiguation page. Nicole Sharp (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- —"infravision" on Wiktionary. Nicole Sharp (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- —"infrared vision" on Wikipedia. Nicole Sharp (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- You make an interesting case, although people at WP:WPDAB would freak out at a disambiguation page linking to a single Wikipedia article. I'll try to work out a page complying with the rules of WP:PRIMARYRED. My main concern is not having a page that directs readers to an article where the topic is not covered at all, but a DAB page which briefly describe the meaning could work. Diego (talk) 12:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- P.D. I've boldly turned the page into a disambiguation, but now the template shows an error for it not being a redirect. Should I remove the template already, or revert the DAB page until a decision is made? Diego (talk) 12:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Diego Moya: I've repaired the template, with your draft DAB following it. Adding a draft to a redirect during RFD is encouraged; you just failed to get the editing quite right, no worries. Narky Blert (talk) 08:07, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Restore redirect to D&D. add redirects here and hatnote to infrared vision. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:35, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Restore redirect to D&D (preferably to a refined target) and hatnote to infrared vision.
- "Infravision" has four closely-related meanings in D&D (non-WP:RS links): an inherent ability of some races, a spell and a potion which confer the ability as a temporary effect, and a few artefacts which confer the ability as a permanent effect while equipped. IMO we should cover it somewhere, but it definitely does not deserve a standalone article. The spell is widely considered to be the most useless in the whole arcane spellbook, and the best use of the items is to sell them. Narky Blert (talk) 08:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Restoring/refining as a redirect isn't appropriate as the target article doesn't have any relevant content. Maybe such content can be (re)added, but that should be somewhere else – maybe a lower-level D&D article, or some new Night vision in fiction? Disambiguation is tempting, but apart from the D&D meaning, there's only one other entry – for Infrared vision. Is infravision ever used to mean that?, I couldn't find any sources during a quick search. Unless something new comes up, I believe the only viable options are deletion, and – preferably, in my opinion – provisional soft retargeting to Wiktionary: wikt:infravision provides a brief definition of the term and so far seems like the least of all evils. – Uanfala (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisting to allow further discussion of the proposed alternatives.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
GeorgeNotFound
- GeorgeNotFound → Dream (YouTuber)#Career (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
GeorgeNotFonud is not "Dream". This redirect is misleading, as it gives the impression that this person is Dream, when in fact, he is not. (WP:RDEL number 10) JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 16:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- No opinion on whether the redirect should be kept but I'd support retaining it and redirecting it to Dream SMP if that ever gets out of draftspace. GeorgeNotFound is mentioned in the Dream article as another related YouTuber. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:10, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- If this had to be kept, it could only go towards Dream SMP (if it was an article, which it is not). JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 17:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and Salt. The current target contains basically no information about this person, just a passing mention that they made a video together at some point. There has been a huge amount of disruptive editing in the page history, such as attempts to turn this into an unsourced BLP, and it seems to have become a bit of a sock magnet, so I think EC create protection would be appropriate. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Alibi (Bradley Cooper song)
- Alibi (Bradley Cooper song) → A Star Is Born (2018 soundtrack) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Only one entry which is a redirect. No navigational help. Richhoncho (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand this nomination, specifically the meaning of "Only one entry which is a redirect". Could you clarify what it is you are trying to say? Beeblebrox (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep there's nothing wrong with redirecting a track to its parent album (which is the case here) and this title is mentioned within the target. In fact, that's quite a common practice when the song doesn't warrant a separate article. I don't see any problems here. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 18:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (amateurs)
- Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (amateurs) → Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paris Saint-Germain F.C. Amateurs → Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paris Saint-Germain (amateurs) → Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paris Saint-Germain Amateurs → Paris Saint-Germain F.C. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention of an amateur team at the target, delete unless a duly sourced mention or other justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 15:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I made these redirects after a discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_140#Paris_Saint-Germain_C
Several articles link to these redirects. But the better idea would be to redirect to Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy, admittedly, where there is a piece on this amateur "C" team in the "top teams" section. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)- Retargeting to Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy sounds like a good solution to me. signed, Rosguill talk 15:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget as suggested. GiantSnowman 17:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Fent
While this does appear to sometimes be a slang term for fentanyl, it also is a word in its own right. I'm not really sure whether a wiktionary redirect or deletion is more appropriate here. signed, Rosguill talk 15:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
II
The term "II" is extremely broad and can refer to a variety of things. 54nd60x (talk) 12:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Move the dab page at II (disambiguation) to the base title. There's no real mention of the roman numerals in the target (they're listed in the info box and in a bullet point) and a google search turns up a complete mix of results. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Is 2 a primary topic for "II"? It probably was for the Romans, but III, IV, etc. suggest it's not now. Move dab to base name. Certes (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral
- Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral → Hanna-Barbera (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Non-notable compilation series redirected unilaterally in 2005, and no longer mentioned at target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Globe (Earth)
Should this target earth or globe? I think either could be a reasonable target for this. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete (neither target). Doesn't seem like a plausible search term, no mainspace incoming links and just confusing. — Bilorv (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 02:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Informal name for the entire world in a geographic context is a plausible search term. Average 0.572 PVS/day is not bad. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree with Bilorv's reasoning. (Regarding pageview stats, I think recent hits might be somewhat inflated as a result of it being listed at RfD. If you look at a span of a few months in 2020, it's more like 1 pageview per 6 days or so. I have to imagine that's close to the floor that would be accrued by any nonsense redirect targeting a popular article. e.g. just from people checking the redirects at Special:WhatLinksHere/Earth.) Colin M (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Questionable
question is about questions as a linguistic concept. wikt:questionable means dubious/problematic. The meaning of the word is unrelated to the topic of the article. It just has a superficial orthographic similarity. If I had to redirect this somewhere, something like doubt would be a better target, but really I think it should just be deleted per WP:NOTDIC. Colin M (talk) 00:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or soft redirect to Wiktionary. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Soft redirect to wikt since these do appear to be used [1]. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Soft redirect these to their respective Wiktionary entries per Shhhnotsoloud. These give a more direct meaning than the current target offers-why would we want to inconvenience all those readers listed? Regards, SONIC678 17:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)