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On 7 July 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Eric Adams (politician) to Eric Adams. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Accuse of nepotism. Someone should include this in his biography
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/09/new-york-mayor-eric-adams-brother-nepotism
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/nyregion/bernard-adams-brother-mayor.html --Someone97816 (talk) 15:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Someone97816, it can be added. Minding WP:BLP and WP:NPOV, it's probably best to propose what language to add here before adding it. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Cracker Comment
The mayor of the largest city in the US makes a racial epitaph at a community group while campaigning is a pretty significant. It is sourced by multiple RS as is his acknowledgement and subsequent is apology. It deserves its own section.Yousef Raz (talk) 02:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- The issue would be well-suited to a "Public image" section, but it is not significantly notable for its own titular section. - Headphase (talk) 04:33, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Headphase: A politician using a racial epitaph is beyond just public image. Its significant of a topic that has been picked up by national news agencies like Washington Post, Huffington Post, Business Insider, and Politico.Yousef Raz (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Every piece of information included an article should be notable (for example, picked up by a national news agency), so that argument is moot. Whether the section is titled Public image, Controversies, Criticism, or something else, that's fine; the point is that one off-the-cuff comment is not worthy of an entire heading in an article about an entire person, unless that comment is somehow materially reflected in a major way in the person's life or works. Headphase (talk) 04:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
@Headphase: I'm fine with a Controversy section.Yousef Raz (talk) 04:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- "Controversy" sections are magnets for trolls and negativity and easily lead to an unbalanced article. You're better off weaving these things into an established section. Shoestringnomad (talk) 04:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Headphase:Trolls are controlled by reliable sources and BLP. They can be attracted but they need to follow the rules.Yousef Raz (talk) 05:28, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- That was a different user who responded to you. Headphase (talk) 05:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Headphase: My mistake.
- @Shoestringnomad: Trolls are controlled by reliable sources and BLP. They can be attracted but they need to follow the rules.Yousef Raz (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- You must be new here. Shoestringnomad (talk) 12:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Shoestringnomad: I've been here long enough to know that I'm correct.Yousef Raz (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- You must be new here. Shoestringnomad (talk) 12:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- WP:CONTROVERSYSECTIONS are bad. I am against them in all cases. The "cracker" comment is too insignificant for its own section, but whether or not to include it anywhere, I am not sure. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:46, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu:The Brooklyn Borough President and eventually Mayor of New York City describing his co-workers with the use of a racial epitaph is far too significant and well sourced beyond local media to not have it's own section. Additionally this wasn't Mayor Adams first comment that is racially charged, for instance his "Go back to Iowa" comment.Yousef Raz (talk) 20:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- The “cracka” incident was just the tip of the iceberg. When Eric Adams was an NYPD officer, he had a history of off-the-wall racism. Actually, said racism pre-dated his entry into the NYPD. Adams bragged that he had been recruited by radical blacks to “infiltrate” the NYPD, which act was illegal. After being sworn in, he racially terrorized white officers, insisted that “racism” was behind black cops’ much higher frequency (than whites) of failing drug tests, and openly supported the Nation of Islam. He also fought the Street Crimes Unit, which got guns off the street, infiltrating it with a malingering, racist officer named Yvette Walton, and got it disbanded. (Adams later bragged about his illegal infiltration of SCU through Walton.) This was all reported at the time. I can’t imagine how all of this could be missing. 2603:7000:B23E:3056:C884:B510:DE1E:181F (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu:The Brooklyn Borough President and eventually Mayor of New York City describing his co-workers with the use of a racial epitaph is far too significant and well sourced beyond local media to not have it's own section. Additionally this wasn't Mayor Adams first comment that is racially charged, for instance his "Go back to Iowa" comment.Yousef Raz (talk) 20:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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