Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (film)

Cast

The only people who have been confirmed to return/appear for this movie are Tika Sumpter, Ben Schwartz (via interviews), Jim Carrey, and James Marsden (via set intel). Anything else is speculation.

Yeah, never Believe knuckles and Amy Will appear Greatskunk9492 (talk) 19:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

We can kinda confirm tails too Greatskunk9492 (talk) 19:30, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Voice of Amy Rose

The voice of Amy Rose appeared on the sequel film, as Nicole Scherzinger.

How did she manage that? More random speculations and no references. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Just like knuckles it's not that Official, people are kinda hyped by Amy Rose in movie 2, same with knuckles Greatskunk9492 (talk) 19:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

People think knuckles is getting in... And it's all wikipedias fault Greatskunk9492 (talk) 19:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Knuckles is confirmed to be in the movie by Paramount, and Idris Elba confirmed himself that he will be voicing. About your edits about Nicole voicing Amy though, there is absolutely no proof confirming it. The7Guy (talk) 03:50, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to joke around and pretend to be shocked lol, I still Greatskunk9492 (talk) 02:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Need more proof for knuckles, but well you are right, I can stop if you want :) but well I edited to prank yall Greatskunk9492 (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

That counts as vandalism- (but it's nice to see you wanting to stop now, that would be good, thanks) The7Guy (talk) 08:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Lee Madjoub reprising role?

Need some references that confirm that Lee will be in this sequel. I only see social media that says he is excited about the sequel, but nothing to indicate that he is on the set and has confirmed this role. So I have removed this from the billing block and cast for now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Knuckles's appearance

Right now it's still on speculation, but please supply references when it is confirmed that Knuckles is indeed in the film and when a voice actor has been cast to voice. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:31, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Better sources needed

I'd like to remind editors not to use fansites as sources WP:FANSITE. If it something has not been reported by reliable sources you will have to wait, and also it might not be WP:NOTABLE either.

WP:CRYSTAL Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Nothing is certain until the film is actually released, please try to avoid speculation. -- 109.79.183.162 (talk) 01:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I've removed several Fan sites. I am considering also removing the reference to Fandom.com because Wikpedia is not supposed to use other wikis as references (WP:UGC and also WP:RSPS) but this might be a valid exception as it an interview that simply happens to be hosted at Fandom. It would still be better if an alternative source could be found. -- 109.79.169.92 (talk) 19:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Tom Holkenborg

None of the sources listed have confirmed that Tom Holkenborg has reprised doing the score for the film, hence as to why it has been removed. 174.253.67.215 (talk) 00:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Early on a lot of information was thoughtlessly copied directly from the first film, even things we couldn't possibly know yet. I noticed the runtime had been copied but I didn't think to check other details so thanks for that correction. -- 109.79.160.61 (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

It was confirmed that Tom Holkenborg returns to compose the film score, per source and website. LancedSoul (talk) 22:23, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Should I put Tails in the Voice Cast section?

I know that the voice of Tails in this film has not yet been confirmed, but on the cast list, it puts Tails on the very bottom in the "Additionally," section below the live-action section, and Tails is not a live-action character. But I don't know whether to put him at the bottom of the voice cast section or leave it as it is. Red4Smash (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Red4Smash, leave as is since the voice is not yet determined. The part about previous voice actors can be removed if not relevant. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:11, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Inspired by Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

Is it me, or does the premise make me think the film's plot is inspired by Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Visokor (talk) 17:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@Visokor: I wouldn't say it's directly inspired from the game (based on the trailer) but it definitely does reference it. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:49, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Regarding about Colleen O'Shaughnessey being billing block.

I have a feeling that Colleen O'Shaughnessey, despite that Tails is the main character, doesn't have her name on billing block for website. LancedSoul (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@LancedSoul: Why does this matter? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:34, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf: Its because Colleen O'Shaughnessey does NOT appear on the billing block for website, so that's my choice. I mean, look at the website. LancedSoul (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@LancedSoul: What do you mean? She does appear on the website. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:26, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

According to that website, she has a starring role, but does not appear on the billing block provided. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 02:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Eggman/Robotnik

The code has this comment "PER THE SYNOPSIS, HE WILL BE GOING BY EGGMAN IN THIS FILM." What synopsis and where is it? The official web site calls him Dr. Robotnik, as do all media mentions I can find.24.59.205.200 (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

First off: the games called him Eggman in Japan but Robotnik in the US. I don't believe for a second that this film will actually call him Eggman and I fully expect that his name will continue to be Robotnik. There was an editor who thinks otherwise and insists on changing it to Eggman, and adding warning comments based on their own opinion and not any actual consensus. The current synopsis/premise section of the article is based on a submission to the US Copyright office, which happens to use the term Eggman. There is no consensus for the leap of logic that the film will also use the name Eggman but the anonymous editor is using it anyway to prognosticate about the film and insist everyone else call Jim Carey's character Eggman not Robotnik.

I wasn't going to bother arguing over it and only bother to explain it now so that when the film is eventually released editors can tidy away the mess. -- 109.78.200.28 (talk) 08:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

They did call him Robotnik in the US. Now they call him Eggman in the US as well. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

He has been known as Eggman in the US for a while. Also, if there's a copyright thing saying "Eggman" then we should go off that. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I just checked, the copyright notice (the reference used in the Premise section[1][2]) and it says Robotnik too, no mention of Eggman there either. Where did you Blaze Wolf see that he was called Eggman in the US? The warning comment was flawed, not based on consensus or reliable sources. We can always wait until the film comes and fix it all then. -- 109.78.211.92 (talk) 00:40, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

There was a synopsis on the official website previously, however it has since been removed. Also, I'm only saying he's called "Eggman" in the games in the US. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:55, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

To my surprise the Wikipedia article for the character is currently at Doctor Eggman (but it could easily have been moved there but an ultra fan). My understanding was that Robotnik was the primary name common name and that Eggman was the name used in Japan and only occasionally used in as a nickname elsewhere. I was deeply into Sonic when it came out in the '90s but perhaps things have changed. -- 109.79.162.193 (talk) 12:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

They have changed. Robotnik has been known as Eggman for a while now. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 12:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I checked the end credits of the first film and it clearly states "Dr. Robotnik Jim Carrey" so it still seems strange to presume anything has changed since the last film and to claim "HE WILL BE GOING BY EGGMAN IN THIS FILM" ... but again we can wait and see what the film actually says when it comes out. -- 109.79.175.86 (talk) 09:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the overall name of the character the primary work, the video games, have been exclusively using Eggman since Sonic Adventure 2 came out in June 2001 so there is next to zero chance of that article title being changed.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 16:22, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Along with the above, I think he may have been called Eggman in the Japanese versions of the game even earlier. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be listed as just Dr. Ivo Robotnik as in the movie canon that's his name?Jamie64326 (talk) 23:02, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Uh... no? I'm fairly sure Sonic does call him Eggman a few times in the first film, which is why Eggman is in his name in quotes. I'm not sure if he will actually be going by Eggman in the film or not since I mainly heard him referred to as "Robotnik" in the trailers. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:23, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

But sites like IMDb don't even refer to him as Eggman. Shouldn't we have it as Dr. Ivo Robotnik and then change it to Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik when otherwise stated. Also, just because Sonic refers to him as Eggman doesn't necessary mean it's his name and is more of an insult. Jamie64326 (talk) 00:23, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Ya that's kinda how he got the nickname of "Eggman". Sonic pretty much just used it as an insulting nickname for him (i think that may have been confirmed by Sega at some point in the past but I'm not entirely sure). Regardless, sites like IMDb aren't reliable sources. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

With this, are you referring to the movie canon or the video game canon? Jamie64326 (talk) 01:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Video game canon. But it doesn't really matter since the movie canon is built off the video game canon (with of course a few modifications such as Sonic being adopted by an owl that got killed which to my knowledge was never in the games). And even then we go by what reliable sources are saying. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:12, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

And have these reliable sources referred to him as Eggman? I know that the movie canon is based on the video game canon, but then there's the differences such as the villian called Dr. Ivo Robotnik just like the original western canon. Jamie64326 (talk) 11:12, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Other actors

Tom Butler and Elfina Luk are in the movie. Should they be added to the cast? (Note that while Butler appears in the trailer, Luk has only been confirmed by one set photo) 2600:387:C:6A12:0:0:0:2 (talk) 01:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

So then you’re saying the sourcing is insufficient?--CreecregofLife (talk) 02:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

James Ransone?

Where was it confirmed that this person is in the movie? 2600:387:F:813:0:0:0:3 (talk) 01:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Why Colleen O’Shaughnessey is not credited

The answer may be here and in this verified YouTube video. It may be worth adding. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Regardless we are not adding her name. Although I do have to wonder if her being credited on one of those posters would count as her being on the billing block. But I'm not going to change it since that is the WP:STATUSQUO. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about adding her name. I thought (and still think) the lack of her name on the poster is worth discussing, similar to how Danai Gurira's name was initially left out on the theatrical release poster of Avengers: Endgame. And both incidents have caused fan outcry. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't see any evidence of fan outcry in the first source. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

For the record, the poster was updated to add her and Tika Sumpter. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:39, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I'll have to take your word for it since I can't view that website. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

And now we will have to wait for a verified Twitter account to share the poster since the above poster is from an unverified account. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Well Sumpter just quote-retweeted it, and the official movie account retweeted that, so that seems as good verification as we can ask for. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Here's another poster with her name on it. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 07:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The posters on that page don't count as being part of the billing block. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Updated poster

This link contains the updated theatrical release poster: https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-2-tika-supter-colleen-oshaughnessey-tails-voice-poster/ Just in case you might want to use it for the article. Red4Smash (talk) 22:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

It's the wrong one. It says "April 1" (which is apparently the UK release date) instead of "April 8".

FreezingTNT2 (talk) 00:38, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

The Sequel Released

Hello, I’m a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog, and for some reason, the movie somehow was released somewhere through the state despite it not being released till next Friday in the U.S. 216.164.255.159 (talk) 10:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, please read the Release section for its international releases that come even before its April 8 US release CreecregofLife (talk) 14:15, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

but for some reason, it will come out in April 21 in Saudi Arabia (my country)

source: https://ksa.voxcinemas.com/movies/sonic-the-hedgehog-2 Mardecayrigboi12436 (talk) 12:31, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2022

Please erase everything in the plot. The movie hasn’t been out yet. 24.96.203.163 (talk) 19:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

See Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (film)#Release for details on where it's released already. Also see WP:SPOILERS that we don't hide information, people are free to not read it if they haven't seen the film yet— Preceding unsigned comment added by Indagate (talk • contribs)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2022 (2)

Edit the plot! The movie hasn't even been released yet! Anonymous982364 (talk) 23:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2022

Change poster to the following: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMeH8K_XEAIPiHC?format=jpg&name=medium source: https://twitter.com/DynamoSuperX/status/1497314877731479552

This version is both higher quality and includes the names of Tika Sumpter and Colleen O'Shaughnessey TheGo2SWATking (talk) 07:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: does not comply with our image use policy. ––FormalDude talk 08:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2022

I want to add something to the plot that I found in the movie. Ttcgifted (talk) 09:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:02, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

movie releasing in April 21, 2022 in Saudi Arabia

Hi, i'm Mardecayrigboi12436 and i'm Saudi Arabian and a Sonic fan. and so, while i was excited to watch Sonic 2, i checked on the local cinemas' websites and did not find Sonic 2 so when i came to the Vox Cinemas website and found the movie in the coming soon section, and realized it was coming out in April 21.

The Movie's page on Vox Cinemas

Mardecayrigboi12436 (talk) 12:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)