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Shah Cheragh massacre → Shah Cheragh attack – The leading word used by sources to describe this event is "attack", from my reading of the news coverage overall so far, e.g. [1], [2], [3]. That should be the title. While "massacre" does appear in some sources, e.g. [4] (but which more often uses "attack"), and while "massacre" is not "universally encouraged nor discouraged", it is not the best title under WP:NCEVENTS and in particular Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events)#Maintaining_neutral_point_of_view. Adumbrativus (talk) 06:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shah Cheragh shooting would be more precise. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 08:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Jim Micheal 2's reasoning though like the other comments I would prefer shooting. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:24, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Are you kidding? Shooting doesn't convey any deaths. Massacre is well understood and had plenty of historical precedence. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre . Wikipedia's own page on "Massacre" says this: "A massacre is the killing of a large number of people or animals, especially those who are not involved in any fighting or have no way of defending themselves". Iranians (talk) 09:10, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per Adumbrativus, though I agree with Jim Michael 2 that "shooting" would be better than attack (WP:DESCRIPTOR says "try to be specific"). Gazelle55 (talk) 13:28, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per the request and previous comments, shooting is a better descriptor. - Yours Faithfully, GA Melbourne ( T | C ) 13:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Support moving to 'shooting'. 'Massacre' is a pretty unacceptable title, shooting is more accurate and more neutral Wasianpower (talk) 14:20, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support moving to → Shah Cheragh mass shooting
Thanks! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 04:39, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

False flag

Some added content that this attack might be a false flag operation to the lead. I've moved it to the body for now, as I deemed it WP:UNDUE for the lead. The reason for that is that the sources used don't seem mainstream (an article from Iran International#Controversies and criticisms and this article in i24NEWS). I googled this and couldn't find other sources that also made the claim.VR _talk 05:23, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]