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Barnstar

The Hard Worker's Barnstar
For your consistantly high level contributions in the topic area of ships and ship design. Keep it up and happy editing! Sadads (talk) 19:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Finnish icebreaker Murtaja (1890)

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Peace in Africa (ship)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Valemax

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for MT Tempera

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sevmorput

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Estonian icebreaker Suur Tõll

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Finnish icebreaker Tarmo (1907)

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Finnish icebreaker Jääkarhu (1925)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Minor Barnstar
For cleaning up my (many) little mistakes and producing small edits of absolute top quality on the Titanic II article, and associated articles. MatthewHaywood (talk) 19:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Finnish icebreaker Voima (1952)

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hello,

Thank you for the great work you did with the M/S Wilhelm Carpelan page. The page looks a lot more Wiki-professional now. Just wanted to ask you a couple of things, as you decided to omit two items I had originally written. The first was about the hydraulic mast tilting the ship owner had installed, and the other one was about the Ericsson spy boat. Wondering why these were omitted. FYI I worked for Nokia for 15 years, including several years in the Nokia headquarters in the early 2000s, and we did not refer to the boat as any competitors' spy boat but very specifically the Ericsson spy boat. At that time Ericsson was not that much a cell phone competitor but a telecom infrastructure competitor.

Then another topic. I've created about 5 Wiki pages now and I've been struggling with the editing and templates. It looks like the Wiki page creation is kind of black magic, you need to know what templates to use and what not. Is there somewhere a good source of information to guide newcomers? As an example, if I want to create a professional-looking page on a ship, how can I find the right template in Finnish and English, and so on? I don't have too much time to spend learning the tricks of Wiki but I have some time available to create these pages.

Thanks & regards,

Harri Hki007 (talk) 03:23, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Finnish transport vessel Wilhelm Carpelan

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wp:BS

The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
For your diligent efforts on wp:ships, attention to detail, and knowing that citation that I could not find. Martin451 (talk) 23:58, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Moskva (1959 icebreaker)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
I just wanted to thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Ships#Proposal to rename article ARA Suboficial Castillo (A-6) to USS Takelma (ATF-113). I appreciate your input. KNHaw (talk) 17:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of vessels built at Crichton-Vulcan and Wärtsilä Turku shipyards

Hi, I had a look on the proposal for a revised list you are drafting. Note that the list shall be made in the point of view of the shipbuilder, telling about the product and client mix. The later stages of the vessels are also notable but less relevant. I have got a couple of suggestions:

  • The original name is enough in the title.
  • The keel lay / contract dates as handover dates are relevant; they tell a story about the projects (for example the first Kriegsmarine vessels originally ordered by Soviet Union).
  • I find the customer and flag relevant information; they tell about the market of each era (like Kriegsmarine, SOTEVA, Sudoimport...).
  • Subsequent names, status, photo etc. relevant information can be fitted into one field if it is hidden by default and can be opened by clicking.

What do you think? --Gwafton (talk) 18:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback and suggestions. However, I will continue working on the list as it is now, as I need it for my own purposes — I want the specific information gathered in a single place. Once I'm done, we can see how (if) we want to merge that list to the one currently in the main namespace. It'll probably take a while, but we're not in a hurry. Tupsumato (talk) 20:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

Great article creation in Kigoriak! Keep it up! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 08:40, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Alfons Håkans

Hello, Tupsumato. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Alfons Håkans".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 08:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata tonnage figures

Hello Tupsumato. Please see this and the indicated link to Wikidata. There appear to have been mass edits on Wikidata confusing displacement with gross tonnage. Kablammo (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for notifying me; this is of course incorrect. However, to my knowledge we don't have automatic data acquisition from Wikidata (anymore), so this shouldn't have a direct impact on the ship articles in the English Wikipedia. Tupsumato (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MV Rhosus

I tried adding the appropriate "Merchant ships of (country)" categories using Hotcat but edit conflicted. Would you do the honours? Category:Merchant ships of Georgia will need to be created. Mjroots (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. I also made a mistake while writing open the history in the article body. Tupsumato (talk) 17:31, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice video

. . . can be found here (Feb 17). Best wishes, Kablammo (talk) 13:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It is indeed very interesting. Tupsumato (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I added the video to 50 Let Pobedy. We do not yet have an article on the LNG carrier, but it is mentioned on our page for its namesake and also at LNG carrier. Kablammo (talk) 01:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ever Given

Tupsumato, I am having trouble reconciling the role of wind in this mishap. Sources, and our two articles (the ship and the mishap), differ on the windspeed, one saying 50 kph, the other saying 40 knots. That's a big difference. And 50 kph is a common windspeed in the Indian Ocean (although it may be more problematic in a narrow canal). While the vessel has enormous windage, it also has an enormous displacement. Do you have any thoughts on the role of wind? Or which velocity is more likely correct? Regards, Kablammo (talk) 22:31, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I have not had time to look into this incident beyond the small edits I did in the articles. However, I'll keep an eye on the reports and help where I can. Tupsumato (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need a citation for a translation. You just need to know Chinese like over a billion people in the world. Do you expect me to cite the dictionary? Just look at the Chinese version of the article! People are curious about the name. The unusual name Ever Given is a direct translation of the ship's Chinese name 長賜輪 or long lasting/gift/(ship). The character 長 also refers to the fact that the ship itself is physically long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.125.187.54 (talk) 02:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ship names are not translated and every ship has just one registered name which in this case is Ever Given. My guess is that 長賜輪 is translated from Ever Given and not vice versa. As a further example, Xue Long 2's registered name is "Xue Long 2", not "Snow Dragon 2", "雪龍2" or "Xuě Lóng 2". Furthermore, there's nothing "unusual" about the name Ever Given; it follows the shipping company's naming scheme for this particular ship series where every name begins with "Ever G—". Tupsumato (talk) 06:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:MT Tempera.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:MT Tempera.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. -M.nelson (talk) 08:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Tupsumato (talk) 10:15, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your interest is ships is totally cool

Your interest in ships is totally cool! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 12:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) Tupsumato (talk) 13:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am on the water every day BTW.. to me sailing and boating is a passion! A little bit of a bummer that Burnt Store Marina, Florida got destroyed in Hurricane Ian. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 13:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Projects 97 and 97AP icebreakers

Projects 97 and 97AP icebreakers: not 2 × twin 25 mm 2M-3M, but 1 × twin 25 mm 2M-3M.

  1. Project 97:

    На первых трёх ледоколах проекта 97, строившихся по заказу ВМФ, устанавливалось артиллерийское вооружение — одна 57-мм двухорудийная артиллерийская установка ЗИФ-31-Б и одна 25-мм двухорудийная установка 2М-3М. Впоследствии данное вооружение было демонтировано.

    — [1]
  2. Project 97AP:

    Первоначально на патрульных ледоколах устанавливалось артиллерийское вооружение — одна 57-мм двухорудийная артиллерийская установка ЗИФ-31-Б и одна 25-мм двухорудийная установка 2М-3М. Впоследствии вооружение с ледоколов было демонтировано.

    — [2]

--212.32.207.152 (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the additional information. Tupsumato (talk) 06:59, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tupsumato, извините, я не говорю по-английски. Возможно следующая Ваша правка верная [3], но наверное нам следует поискать ещё какие-либо источники, подтверждающие, что Vladimir Kavrayskiy был 2-винтовым судном. Например, отец и сын Музалевские (2010) также пишут, что Vladimir Kavrayskiy был 3-винтовым судном: [4], [5]. Возможно они ошибаются, нужна проверка по другим источникам. --109.169.214.220 (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I will continue looking for information. Tupsumato (talk) 14:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tupsumato, я смотрел в трёх источниках:
    1. Leonid Kuznetsov; Albert Veber; Valeri Kireyev; etc. (1996), V. L. Aleksandrov [in Russian] (ed.), Адмиралтейские верфи: Люди, корабли, годы, 1926–1996 (in Russian), Saint Petersburg: Gangut, pp. 220–229, ISBN 5-85875-110-5, retrieved 2023-01-10
    2. Nikita Kuznetsov (2009), "От «Добрыни Никитича» до «Отто Шмидта»: Ледоколы проекта 97 и их модификации", Морская коллекция (in Russian), no. 8 (119), Moscow: Моделист-конструктор, p. 22, retrieved 2023-01-10
    3. Mikhail Muzalevsky; Pavel Muzalevsky (2010), A. L. Demin (ed.), Покорители льдов: Корабли, капитаны, судьбы (in Russian), vol. 2, Moscow: Кавалеръ, p. 45, retrieved 2023-01-10
    Ни в одном из этих источников не пишется, что «Владимир Каврайский» (Vladimir Kavrayskiy) был 2-винтовым судном. Кроме того, в третьем источнике (Muzalevsky 2010) прямо указывается, что он имел 3 винта. --80.234.72.242 (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your effort. While one of my Russian contacts speculated that Muzalevsky may have a misprint, none of the sources clearly state that Vladimir Kavrayskiy would not have a bow propeller. Thus, I have removed the previous claim from the article. Tupsumato (talk) 06:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, в свою очередь я тоже спрашивал у коллеги Alex omen, создателя статьи Владимир Каврайский (судно) в русскоязычной Википедии, попадалась ли ему информация в других источниках (кроме сайта RussianShips.info) о том, что «Владимир Каврайский» был 2-винтовым. Он ответил, что согласно всем известным ему источникам, гидрографическое судно «Владимир Каврайский» имело 3 винта. --212.32.192.17 (talk) 09:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tupsumato, хотелось бы ещё заметить, что в реале номинальная мощность (power rating) кормовых гребных электродвигателей постоянного тока ПГ-147 (PG-147) не соответствует 2500 л. с. (1900 кВт), как указано на сайте RussianShips.info, а равняется 1760 кВт ≈ 1800 кВт (2400 л. с.). Номинальная мощность носового гребного электродвигателя постоянного тока ПГ-146 (PG-146) на сайте RussianShips.info указана практически верно: 1175 кВт ≈ 1200 кВт (1600 л. с.); см.:
    1. A. F. Burkov; V. F. Verevkin (2018), Проектирование и расчёт элементов пропульсивных комплексов с гребными электрическими установками (PDF) (in Russian), Vladivostok: FEFU, pp. 17–18, ISBN 978-5-7444-4232-3, retrieved 2023-01-18.
    Кстати, такую же номинальную мощность кормовых гребных электродвигателей постоянного тока на научно-исследовательском ледоколе «Отто Шмидт» проекта 97Н указывает и Н. А. Кузнецов (4800 л. с. = 2 × 2400 л. с.):

    Мощность гребных электродвигателей, л. с.: 4800

    — Kuznetsov 2009, p. 29.
    --212.32.207.162 (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you again for confirming these details from Russian sources — I'll revise the article at some point when time allows. In the meanwhile, feel free to correct any details that are incorrect or missing in the article. Tupsumato (talk) 06:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tupsumato, благодарю за Вашу работу! Однако я опасаюсь вносить правки в статьи англоязычной Википедии из-за грамматических ошибок, так как к сожалению не владею английским языком. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --95.67.131.254 (talk) 10:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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